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Fergy

Posts: 22436

Fenton, Michigan, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
Don't believe me? Try peeing with one.

Compass Rose Studios wrote:
God made it that way so we don't pee on our face every morning.

lol

Too funny!

Feb 13 14 03:06 pm Link

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Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

barepixels wrote:
maybe its a culture thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DerhIGKnSU

Very kewl. I want to go to that festival.
Gives me a good idea for a photo journalistic travels. Now I want to study and document penis cultures from all over the world.

Feb 13 14 03:07 pm Link

Photographer

Christian B Aragon

Posts: 261

Sparks, Nevada, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I really do not understand why people are so afraid of erect penises in fine art or well anything for that matter.

So what is the problem and what am I missing?

I think that erect penis in art is very nice. Limp penises are ugly unattractive.

What is the real reason most places ban erect penises in art?

I wonder if a poll taken would it be the men vote or women vote that would make either way acceptable?

This subject has always confused me.

Society's truest perverts believe that human genitalia in any representation are "sinful" and "crude" and "distasteful" and any number of other negative, half-thought, emotionally unintelligent, and willfully ignorant adjectives. The human form is the sum of its parts. To demonize one set of parts without demonizing all of the parts is fear and gullibility in their worst forms.

Feb 13 14 03:09 pm Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

Eros Fine Art Photo wrote:
I'm guessing an erect penis on a male model is equivalent to a female model spreading her labia in a photo.  There's no way to mistake either one as being associated with sexuality and eroticism (unless, of course, we're talking about medical photos). 

In contrast, one can argue a flaccid penis and a simple nude of a woman show appreciation for the human form. 

I, for one, think eroticism can be artistic IF it's photographed well.  A lot of times though, shots of erections and spreads lips aren't and are easily recognized as porn.

That, and perhaps, you need to consider what is necessary in order to have an erect penis.  While the photo can be artistic and perhaps non-erotic, the subject will need stimulation.  And quite possibly, regular stimulation to maintain it.

Feb 13 14 03:11 pm Link

Photographer

Tropic Light

Posts: 7595

Kailua, Hawaii, US

Caitin Bre wrote:

Very kewl. I want to go to that festival.
Gives me a good idea for a photo journalistic travels. Now I want to study and document penis cultures from all over the world.

Here's one from Molokai.  One of my friends slept under it one night.

http://www.to-hawaii.com/molokai/ancien … icrock.php

Feb 13 14 03:12 pm Link

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Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Artifice wrote:
http://susannahbreslin.net/blog/2014/2/10/say-what

So the 500w gherkin. Interesting.

Feb 13 14 03:13 pm Link

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Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Jules NYC wrote:
http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/4825358

On that note,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPiOPaD87nM

Jules you come up with some great stuff. lol

Feb 13 14 03:19 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Feb 13 14 03:21 pm Link

Retoucher

Marc Damon Retouch

Posts: 651

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

1. Porn is art. It's just not appreciated by everyone just as abstract paintings are not understood by anyone.

2. Jules, I love your humor.

3. Ever imagine the David with a 10" boner?

and finally... I too call :troll: so IBTL.

Feb 13 14 03:23 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Ronald N. Tan wrote:
Try this: http://snpstr.com/art/fashion-victims-by-erwin-olaf/. The link contain images from "Fashion Victims" by Dutch eminent photographer (and one of my photographer heroes)—ERWIN OLAF.

Scroll to the bottom and you'll see a male model with an tumescent penis with the Moschino bag over his head.

In my opinion, the image is considered "art" because it contains some thinking and admiration involved. You don't want to masturbate to the image.

Let's suppose that a similar image was made in the style and manner that have a guy with a hard-on and just standing there in bad lighting. Would you think "art" or porn?

Gloria Leonard said is best, "The difference between pornography and erotica [art] is the lighting."

Wow very good. It makes a very strong point. Erwin Olaf is one of the greats in commercial photography and gives very strong argument for what I am trying to say.
Bravo. Thank you

Feb 13 14 03:29 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9782

Bellingham, Washington, US

I used to be a condom model.

After a long, hard day at work I would go home limp with exhaustion.

neutral

Feb 13 14 03:48 pm Link

Photographer

Innovative Imagery

Posts: 2841

Los Angeles, California, US

Of course we are overlooking a main component of many pictures.  What makes an erect penis more "sex based" than girls on all fours or leg apart or a couple in the clinch, intertwined, etc.

These all have sexual overtones.  Why are they OK and erect penises are not?  Spread labia is a different thing to an erect penis in my mind, but maybe that is just me.

Feb 13 14 03:48 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Cherrystone wrote:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jVpe0Fw7Wzw/UJD9FEiGgJI/AAAAAAAAD9s/mET6agl9Xow/s400/troll%2Byour%2Bboat.jpg

LoleffinL

Feb 13 14 03:56 pm Link

Photographer

Virtual Studio

Posts: 6725

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Caitin Bre wrote:
I really do not understand why people are so afraid of erect penises in fine art or well anything for that matter.

So what is the problem and what am I missing?

I think that erect penis in art is very nice. Limp penises are ugly unattractive.

What is the real reason most places ban erect penises in art?

I wonder if a poll taken would it be the men vote or women vote that would make either way acceptable?

This subject has always confused me.

Good Christ.

May my manager never need attention this badly.

Feb 13 14 04:02 pm Link

Photographer

Yves Duchamp - Femme

Posts: 24436

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I really do not understand why people are so afraid of erect penises in fine art or well anything for that matter.

So what is the problem and what am I missing?

I think that erect penis in art is very nice. Limp penises are ugly unattractive.

What is the real reason most places ban erect penises in art?

I wonder if a poll taken would it be the men vote or women vote that would make either way acceptable?

This subject has always confused me.

Erect penises aren't banned in art. They're just banned on this website. I've read over the convo here and most of the reasoning is dumb as hell.

Feb 13 14 04:06 pm Link

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Eros Fine Art Photo

Posts: 3097

Torrance, California, US

Marc Damon Retouch wrote:
1. Porn is art. It's just not appreciated by everyone just as abstract paintings are not understood by anyone.

I disagree.  Porn is porn.  It'll never be exhibited at The Getty, or any well established museum of art.  Although some art can push the boundaries, obvious porn (i.e. Hustler magazine, Vivid Entertainment DVD's, porn websites, etc) will never be confused with art.

Feb 13 14 04:16 pm Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

Posts: 23492

Los Angeles, California, US

EnlightendedPhotography wrote:
I have never seen a marble statue with an erection.

All the Greek statues featured erections.


But, y'know… those Greeks were just widdle guys…

Feb 13 14 04:29 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Virtual Studio wrote:

Good Christ.

May my manager never need attention this badly.

lol

Feb 13 14 04:44 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/lQRcqcA_zps098dde6e.gif

Feb 13 14 04:46 pm Link

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Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
All the Greek statues featured erections.


But, y'know… those Greeks were just widdle guys…

I have seen statues from ancient times that had erections. It seems as though some cultures made theirs with little ones and some made theirs with exaggerated ones.
It appears they relate the large ones to fertility. Like amongst all the little Greek ones there is one Greek that is huge, Priapus. The Greek fertility God.

Makes me wonder if back in those days they considered the larger the more fertile? and if the largest in country you would be considered a god?

That would also mean that penis envy would have played a roll in even ancient civilizations as well.

Feb 13 14 04:54 pm Link

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Teila K Day Photography

Posts: 2039

Panama City Beach, Florida, US

Eros Fine Art Photo wrote:
I'm guessing an erect penis on a male model is equivalent to a female model spreading her labia in a photo.  There's no way to mistake either one as being associated with sexuality and eroticism (unless, of course, we're talking about medical photos). 

In contrast, one can argue a flaccid penis and a simple nude of a woman show appreciation for the human form. 

I, for one, think eroticism can be artistic IF it's photographed well.  A lot of times though, shots of erections and spreads lips aren't and are easily recognized as porn.

To the contrary… an erect penis is simply the equiv. of streaks of natural lubricant visible on and around a woman's labia, etc..

I do agree with the OP- the flaccid penis thing is ridiculous; however I am also very cognizant that there's a place for limp and hardness in fine art and or pornography.  Do whatever works best… or sells the most wink

Feb 13 14 04:57 pm Link

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Siddy Pain

Posts: 593

Stratford, Taranaki, New Zealand

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/lQRcqcA_zps098dde6e.gif

Totally unrelated, but what the hell is that?

Feb 13 14 04:58 pm Link

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Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/lQRcqcA_zps098dde6e.gif

ROFLMAO

Feb 13 14 04:59 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Siddy Pain wrote:

Totally unrelated, but what the hell is that?

A badger.

Feb 13 14 05:04 pm Link

Photographer

PhillipM

Posts: 8049

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I really do not understand why people are so afraid of erect penises in fine art or well anything for that matter.

So what is the problem and what am I missing?

I think that erect penis in art is very nice. Limp penises are ugly unattractive.

What is the real reason most places ban erect penises in art?

I wonder if a poll taken would it be the men vote or women vote that would make either way acceptable?

This subject has always confused me.

You had me at ERECT......

Feb 13 14 05:04 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Laura UnBound wrote:

A badger.

Mushroom.....Mushroom.....

Feb 13 14 05:14 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:

Mushroom.....Mushroom.....

Snaaaaaake a snaaaaakke ooooh its a snaaaaake

Feb 13 14 05:17 pm Link

Photographer

m_s_photo

Posts: 605

Port Moody, British Columbia, Canada

"I think Penises should be Erect!"


Well, I certainly think MINE should be.... far more often.

Feb 13 14 05:20 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Just read an interesting article that makes sense about the subject.
Its a really good short read.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marten-we … 67546.html

Something I find very interesting is places like amazon say the reason they don't allow anything about erect penises is because they are protecting their younger customers. Ok but then why is movies and books about murder, rape, torcher, beheading, werewolves ripping off the head of teens engaged in sex, etc....... OK?
But the Boner picture is the real Killer.
Really the article is pretty good.

Feb 13 14 05:39 pm Link

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Eros Fine Art Photo

Posts: 3097

Torrance, California, US

Siddy Pain wrote:
Totally unrelated, but what the hell is that?

This is the Honey Badger.  It's pretty badass. 

Watch and learn...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5_tXcfWPjk

(edit)
Scratch that.  The one in the gif is just a regular American Badger.

Feb 13 14 05:41 pm Link

Photographer

Eros Fine Art Photo

Posts: 3097

Torrance, California, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I have seen statues from ancient times that had erections. It seems as though some cultures made theirs with little ones and some made theirs with exaggerated ones.
It appears they relate the large ones to fertility. Like amongst all the little Greek ones there is one Greek that is huge, Priapus. The Greek fertility God.

Makes me wonder if back in those days they considered the larger the more fertile? and if the largest in country you would be considered a god?

That would also mean that penis envy would have played a roll in even ancient civilizations as well.

From what I remember in a documentary I saw, the Greeks and Romans found long penises to be vulgar and rude.  That's why their statues had modest sized members.

Feb 13 14 05:44 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I have seen statues from ancient times that had erections.

https://www.google.com/search?q=priapus

Feb 13 14 05:47 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Caitin Bre wrote:
I have seen statues from ancient times that had erections. It seems as though some cultures made theirs with little ones and some made theirs with exaggerated ones.
It appears they relate the large ones to fertility. Like amongst all the little Greek ones there is one Greek that is huge, Priapus. The Greek fertility God.

Makes me wonder if back in those days they considered the larger the more fertile? and if the largest in country you would be considered a god?

That would also mean that penis envy would have played a roll in even ancient civilizations as well.

Yeah, that's not how ancient cultures worked.

Are you making up the things you've heard as you go?

"According to legend, Hera cursed him with impotence, ugliness and foul-mindedness while he was still in Aphrodite's womb, in revenge for the hero Paris having the temerity to judge Aphrodite more beautiful than Hera. The other gods refused to allow him to live on Mount Olympus and threw him down to Earth, leaving him on a hillside. He was eventually found by shepherds and was brought up by them.
Priapus joined Pan and the satyrs as a spirit of fertility and growth, though he was perennially frustrated by his impotence. In a ribald anecdote told by Ovid, he attempted to rape the nymph Lotis but was thwarted by an ass, whose braying caused him to lose his erection at the critical moment and woke Lotis. He pursued the nymph until the gods took pity on her and turned her into a lotus plant. The episode gave him a lasting hatred of asses and a willingness to see them destroyed in his honour. The emblem of his lustful nature was his permanent erection and his giant penis."

Not exactly a glowing myth to remember him by.

Feb 13 14 05:48 pm Link

Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2935

Socorro, New Mexico, US

America is a sexually immature patriarchal nation.  I think it's just that simple.

Feb 13 14 05:49 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
Yeah, that's not how ancient cultures worked.

Are you making up the things you've heard as you go?

I am reading up on things people post and finding interesting things about it. Then sharing.
I have a little down time tonight and the subject is on my mind. I chose to talk about this over going out with the rest of the current project cast and getting pissed in a Irish Pub.
It was a subject that came up on set this morning when the photographer/director made us break so the male model could as he put it settle down a little.

Feb 13 14 05:53 pm Link

Model

Caitin Bre

Posts: 2687

Apache Junction, Arizona, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:

Yeah, that's not how ancient cultures worked.

Are you making up the things you've heard as you go?

"According to legend, Hera cursed him with impotence, ugliness and foul-mindedness while he was still in Aphrodite's womb, in revenge for the hero Paris having the temerity to judge Aphrodite more beautiful than Hera. The other gods refused to allow him to live on Mount Olympus and threw him down to Earth, leaving him on a hillside. He was eventually found by shepherds and was brought up by them.
Priapus joined Pan and the satyrs as a spirit of fertility and growth, though he was perennially frustrated by his impotence. In a ribald anecdote told by Ovid, he attempted to rape the nymph Lotis but was thwarted by an ass, whose braying caused him to lose his erection at the critical moment and woke Lotis. He pursued the nymph until the gods took pity on her and turned her into a lotus plant. The episode gave him a lasting hatred of asses and a willingness to see them destroyed in his honour. The emblem of his lustful nature was his permanent erection and his giant penis."

Not exactly a glowing myth to remember him by.

Ok I just read that version as I had read a different version earlier. There are conflicting information on him and it seems that as time went along he was something different to different beliefs.
But he remained the God of the Garden.
Its Mythology.

Feb 13 14 06:11 pm Link

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Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

Marc Damon Retouch wrote:
1. Porn is art. It's just not appreciated by everyone just as abstract paintings are not understood by anyone.

2. Jules, I love your humor.

3. Ever imagine the David with a 10" boner?

and finally... I too call :troll: so IBTL.

big_smile

Feb 13 14 06:35 pm Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

Caitin Bre wrote:

Jules you come up with some great stuff. lol

big_smile

Feb 13 14 06:36 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
Erect phalli are sexual.

Don't believe me? Try peeing with one.

See? Not practical. Sexual.

You can pee when erect..., so I've heard,... wink

... and the practicality totally depends on who you are sharing the shower with..., so I've read,... lol

Feb 13 14 06:42 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Christopher Hartman wrote:
That, and perhaps, you need to consider what is necessary in order to have an erect penis.  While the photo can be artistic and perhaps non-erotic, the subject will need stimulation.  And quite possibly, regular stimulation to maintain it.

"Penis erectus sine causa" aka "morning wood"... wink

Feb 13 14 06:45 pm Link