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Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Specialize:

spe‧cial‧ize  /ˈspɛʃəˌlaɪz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spesh-uh-lahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -ized, -iz‧ing.

–verb (used without object)
1.    to pursue some special line of study, work, etc.; have a specialty: The doctor specializes in gastroenterology.
2.    Biology. (of an organism or one of its organs) to be adapted to a special function or environment.
–verb (used with object)
3.    to render special or specific; invest with a special character, function, etc.
4.    to adapt to special conditions; restrict to specific limits.
5.    to restrict payment of (a negotiable instrument) by endorsing over to a specific payee.
6.    to specify; particularize.

You can not specialize in glamour, nude, art nude, figure nude, fashion, AND commercial.

Having shot a picture does not make you a specialist..

If you specialize in more than one type of photography you are a GENERALIST..

Embrace your Jack of All Trades nature, or PICK AN ACTUAL FREAKIN SPECIALTY!

Nov 20 06 03:52 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12117

Tampa, Florida, US

People tell me I'm "special" all the time. Does that count?

Nov 20 06 03:53 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

...Nudes IS my specialty!

Nov 20 06 03:54 pm Link

Model

Alix Andrea

Posts: 3035

Los Angeles, California, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
People tell me I'm "special" all the time. Does that count?

You are special smile

Nov 20 06 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

Analog Nomad

Posts: 4097

Pattaya, Central, Thailand

OK I admit it. I am a full-service photographic prostitute. I specialize in nothing. I will shoot almost anything for money. I have to admit, after 20 years of swearing I would NEVER shoot another one, I actually shoot WEDDINGS now too. And like it.

I am a Photo Whore. A total Graphics Slut. And proud of it.

Paul

Nov 20 06 04:21 pm Link

Photographer

Scissor Industries

Posts: 153

San Jose, California, US

ooo ooo ooo... I want to be special!

Nov 20 06 05:15 pm Link

Model

Sarah Ellis

Posts: 1285

Portland, Oregon, US

dgold wrote:
...Nudes IS my specialty!

What a perfect post for a thread about poor word choice.

Nov 20 06 05:36 pm Link

Photographer

David Scott

Posts: 5617

Marion, Iowa, US

W.G. Rowland wrote:
Specialize:

spe‧cial‧ize  /ˈspɛʃəˌlaɪz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spesh-uh-lahyz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -ized, -iz‧ing.

–verb (used without object)
1.    to pursue some special line of study, work, etc.; have a specialty: The doctor specializes in gastroenterology.
2.    Biology. (of an organism or one of its organs) to be adapted to a special function or environment.
–verb (used with object)
3.    to render special or specific; invest with a special character, function, etc.
4.    to adapt to special conditions; restrict to specific limits.
5.    to restrict payment of (a negotiable instrument) by endorsing over to a specific payee.
6.    to specify; particularize.

You can not specialize in glamour, nude, art nude, figure nude, fashion, AND commercial.

Having shot a picture does not make you a specialist..

If you specialize in more than one type of photography you are a GENERALIST..

Embrace your Jack of All Trades nature, or PICK AN ACTUAL FREAKIN SPECIALTY!

A doctor that specializes in an area can still do general practice as well, can they not?

Nov 20 06 05:38 pm Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

David Scott wrote:

A doctor that specializes in an area can still do general practice as well, can they not?

Of course they can..

I'm specifically picking on bios that state that their author specializes in 10 different things.

Nov 20 06 05:39 pm Link

Model

Sarah Ellis

Posts: 1285

Portland, Oregon, US

David Scott wrote:
A doctor that specializes in an area can still do general practice as well, can they not?

A specialist doctor can work in general practice, but (s)he can not specialize in general practice.

Nov 20 06 05:42 pm Link

Photographer

Miles Chandler

Posts: 647

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

It's not necessarily a poor word choice: the definition quoted in no way precludes using the term to describe somebody who feels their forte is in more than one particular style or type of photography, approach or subject matter. It does not preclude them having other specialties. It's an intransitive verb being used in absolutely correct fashion.
I specialize in nude photography. I also specialize in several other things- as do many doctors. I'll admit your example is pushing it, though:-)

Nov 20 06 05:43 pm Link

Model

Sarah Ellis

Posts: 1285

Portland, Oregon, US

Miles Chandler wrote:
It's not a poor word choice: the definition quoted in no way precludes using the term to describe somebody who feels their forte is a particular style or type of photography, approach or subject matter. It's an intransitive verb being used in absolutely correct fashion.
I specialize in nude photography.

The post that I was responding to read: "nudes is my specialty." The word "nudes" is plural.

I specialize in nude modeling.  Nudes ARE my specialty.

Nov 20 06 05:45 pm Link

Photographer

Sockpuppet Studios

Posts: 7862

San Francisco, California, US

My specialties are jewelry product images and high end  s & m erotica of private clientele....

The crap on MM is just what MM peoples want to see...not who cuts my checks..

Nov 20 06 05:47 pm Link

Photographer

Miles Chandler

Posts: 647

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Sarah Ellis wrote:
The post that I was responding to read: "nudes is my specialty." The word "nudes" is plural.

Whoops! Missed that.. yes, that is obviously a s/v agreement problem. I may have jumped in too quickly.

EDIT: BTW, I love your specialty. Such a great portfolio:-)

Nov 20 06 05:47 pm Link

Model

Sarah Ellis

Posts: 1285

Portland, Oregon, US

Miles Chandler wrote:

Whoops! Missed that.. yes, that is obviously a s/v agreement problem. I may have jumped in too quickly.

Naw, I was just picking a very very small nit.

Nov 20 06 05:47 pm Link

Photographer

David Scott

Posts: 5617

Marion, Iowa, US

Sarah Ellis wrote:

A specialist doctor can work in general practice, but (s)he can not specialize in general practice.

I never said anything about specializing in general practice.  I just said you can do more than one thing.   Another example might be a basketball player.

(s)he might be a 3-point  & free-throw specialist.    Multiple specialties.   

Depending on how you want to break things down...

I agree you can't specialize in everything as mentioned in the OP's post.     But as the statement in the sentence above... one could say they specialize in portait photography (or people photography or whatever you want to call it) --just a different breakdown smile

Nov 20 06 05:49 pm Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Miles Chandler wrote:
It's not a poor word choice: the definition quoted in no way precludes using the term to describe somebody who feels their forte is a particular style or type of photography, approach or subject matter. It's an intransitive verb being used in absolutely correct fashion.
I specialize in nude photography.

YOU use it correctly..

This (and I'm quoting) is not, in my understanding, a correct usage:

Photographer has over X years of experience, and specializes in Glamour, swimwear, commercial, fine art, artistic nude, nature, fashion, and runway photography.

I've seen that a few times.. And it makes the gears in my brain slip every time..

Nov 20 06 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

Dave Mullins

Posts: 1775

Nashua, New Hampshire, US

I am a generalist. I shoot anything that tickles my fancy.

Any models want to tickle my fancy?

Malodave

Nov 20 06 06:25 pm Link

Photographer

Miles Chandler

Posts: 647

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

W.G. Rowland wrote:
YOU use it correctly..
This (and I'm quoting) is not, in my understanding, a correct usage:
Photographer has over X years of experience, and specializes in Glamour, swimwear, commercial, fine art, artistic nude, nature, fashion, and runway photography.
I've seen that a few times.. And it makes the gears in my brain slip every time..

Yep, I take it back. Specializing simultaneously in 8 types of photography is absurd.

Nov 20 06 06:29 pm Link

Model

NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

I'm an extreme middle-of-the-roadist. Hows that?

Nov 20 06 08:47 pm Link

Photographer

MartinImages

Posts: 3872

Los Angeles, California, US

What a great slogan that'd make though:

"We specialize in everything!"

B

Nov 20 06 09:22 pm Link

Photographer

Dave Mullins

Posts: 1775

Nashua, New Hampshire, US

NC17 wrote:
I'm an extreme middle-of-the-roadist. Hows that?

Remember to read the thread on where the worst drivers are
before you get into the middle-of-the-road!

Malodave

Nov 20 06 09:56 pm Link

Model

NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Dave Mullins wrote:

Remember to read the thread on where the worst drivers are
before you get into the middle-of-the-road!

Malodave

Heh, yeah I'll have to remember that... I think they're right here!!

Nov 21 06 08:37 am Link

Model

RDawkins

Posts: 4532

Breckenridge, Colorado, US

David Scott wrote:

A doctor that specializes in an area can still do general practice as well, can they not?

My father specializes in gastroenterology. He *could* do general practice, but not "as well". So, the answer is no.

Back to modeling: I specialize in gastrointenstinal fashion.

Nov 21 06 09:55 am Link

Photographer

Mark Reese Photography

Posts: 21622

Brandon, Florida, US

K. Holden wrote:

My father specializes in gastroenterology. He *could* do general practice, but not "as well". So, the answer is no.

Back to modeling: I specialize in gastrointenstinal fashion.

Actually Holden, your father could do general practice so the answer is yes he COULD but since he couldn't do it as well he chooses not to.

Nov 21 06 09:57 am Link

Model

DELETE ACCOUNT

Posts: 5517

Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan

bang bang photo wrote:
OK I admit it. I am a full-service photographic prostitute. I specialize in nothing. I will shoot almost anything for money. I have to admit, after 20 years of swearing I would NEVER shoot another one, I actually shoot WEDDINGS now too. And like it.

I am a Photo Whore. A total Graphics Slut. And proud of it.

Paul

(whistles, cheering) Yeah, baby!

Nov 21 06 10:01 am Link

Model

DELETE ACCOUNT

Posts: 5517

Eškašem, Badakhshan, Afghanistan

Miles Chandler wrote:

Yep, I take it back. Specializing simultaneously in 8 types of photography is absurd.

How 'bout:  "with special attention to (or interest in) ______, ______, ... " when there really is no specialty and "specializing in ______ photography with additional skills in (or interest in) ______, ______, ... " ?  I do understand your point.

Nov 21 06 10:11 am Link

Photographer

RED Photographic

Posts: 1458

W.G. Rowland wrote:
...You can not specialize in glamour, nude, art nude, figure nude, fashion, AND commercial...

How many things can I specialise in?

Can I specialise in glamour, nude, art nude and figure nude, since they're all sort of related?

Can I specialise in fashion and commercial?

Can I specialise in fashion and glamour?

Nov 21 06 10:11 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

RED Photographic wrote:

How many things can I specialise in?

Can I specialise in glamour, nude, art nude and figure nude, since they're all sort of related?

Can I specialise in fashion and commercial?

Can I specialise in fashion and glamour?

To specialize you concentrate in one thing.  People can argue themselves blue about this, but for a specialty to be special it has to be what you do best.. If you do two things best.. You don't have a specialty..  This isn't a crime.. It's language.

Nov 21 06 10:15 am Link

Photographer

Bondo Photo

Posts: 250

Glen Burnie, Maryland, US

"I see", said the blind man...

Nov 21 06 10:15 am Link

Photographer

Tog

Posts: 55204

Birmingham, Alabama, US

Bondo Photo wrote:
"I see", said the blind man...

I'm just amused that people care enough to keep this thread going..

Nov 21 06 10:17 am Link

Photographer

Mark Anderson

Posts: 2472

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I specialize in nothing so does that make me a nothing specialist?

Nov 21 06 10:18 am Link

Photographer

David Scott

Posts: 5617

Marion, Iowa, US

K. Holden wrote:
My father specializes in gastroenterology. He *could* do general practice, but not "as well". So, the answer is no.

Back to modeling: I specialize in gastrointenstinal fashion.

I think you must have misread that.   when I said "as well" I meant that in the way of meaning "also" and not as in.. comparably or whatever. smile

Nov 21 06 10:21 am Link

Photographer

Digiography

Posts: 3367

Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada

I too was always told as a child I was "special", that's why I got to ride in the "special bus" to a "special school", what are you saying?????

Aggggghhhhhhh, my mommy lied to me????? aggggghhhhhhh!!!!

Nov 21 06 10:41 am Link

Photographer

Dave Mullins

Posts: 1775

Nashua, New Hampshire, US

NC17 wrote:
Dave Mullins wrote:

Remember to read the thread on where the worst drivers are
before you get into the middle-of-the-road!

Malodave

Heh, yeah I'll have to remember that... I think they're right here!!

I was born and raised in Baltimore and I know what the drivers can be like. I used to drive a 24' flatbed truck delivering building supplies in the Balto/Wash Corridor.

We might have to get together the next time I get down there.

Malodave

Nov 21 06 06:27 pm Link

Photographer

Glenn Francis

Posts: 347

Los Angeles, California, US

Hmmmm, I specialize in everything I do!

big_smile

-Glenn

Nov 22 06 04:24 am Link

Model

NC17

Posts: 1739

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Dave Mullins wrote:
I was born and raised in Baltimore and I know what the drivers can be like. I used to drive a 24' flatbed truck delivering building supplies in the Balto/Wash Corridor.

We might have to get together the next time I get down there.

Malodave

Heh you are very right!!! Let me know the next time you're in town!!
(My sister lives way up in NH too, crazy place to be its all dark and snowy up there!)

Nov 22 06 10:30 am Link

Photographer

Lotus Photography

Posts: 19253

Berkeley, California, US

https://moon.felk.cvut.cz/~pisem1/blog/KnightsWhoSayNi.jpg T

Nov 22 06 12:39 pm Link