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Jul 28 14 08:20 pm Link I am a volunteer dog walker at a local shelter. I would guess that 60-70% of the dogs there at any given time are pit-mix of one type of another (they vary a lot in appearance and size). These dogs are as sweet and affectionate as any other dogs. In fact, many of them seem especially attuned to and able to bond with humans. The crime is that there are way too many idiots out there breeding dogs for fighting. Based on the wide variations in appearance of the pit-mix dogs, I would assume that these breeders experiment with various pairings seeking the ultimate gladiator. Many (if not most) of these experiments get cast off and end up in shelters. It is sad. It is not just actual fighting dogs that suffer. It is also the ones that the breeders throw away, ironically, for not being good enough fighting stock. Jul 28 14 08:44 pm Link it's nothing new, actually. They ar amazingly loyal, loving and sweet dogs. If an asshole raises a dog, you get a sketchy dog, same with child rearing. A dog can be removed from a bad situation if it has that love still in him/her and wont hurt a fly. They still somehow want to trust humans so badly and are just lovers regardless. They just need the right humans around them to teach them that humans can equate "good". Dogs react a lot based on feeling. If they are given the tie to feel safe and secure and not have people up their ass and dissapointed they havent come around in a day or even a week, they generally come around with valued persistence and learn to trust. The human has to want to teach and receive. I also have volunteered in shelters. Jul 28 14 09:13 pm Link i love my two bebehs! giant muscular love bugs that everyones afraid of  just found a tiny stray 15 year old unfixed terrier and got him to follow me home a couple hours ago, my dogs just let him right on in to loot their home for food lol luckily found the little fellas owner WOOHOO.   ^^^^^them pouting when they know im about to leave^^^^^ Jul 28 14 09:31 pm Link orias wrote: I LOVED mine, too, while I had her. I met another one I really like and would like to keep her but her owner doesn't want to let her go. All the dog really wants is some food, outside time and petting. I don't think that's too much to ask. Great dogs. Jul 28 14 11:07 pm Link Lovely Day Media wrote: go fall in love with another one waiting for you at your nearest shelter...take her home Jul 28 14 11:17 pm Link As you can see, my pittie [Beast] fits the stereotype SO well. He's obviously super vicious. And by vicious, I mean he'll probably try to sit on your lap and lick you to death.  JUST LOOK AT THIS HANDSOME DEVIL.  Jul 28 14 11:20 pm Link Nicolette wrote: If your dog is anything like mine was, he has a vicious sounding growl and bark. He'll act like he's angry whenever anyone knocks on the door or rings the doorbell. When you open the door and he sees that you're okay with whoever it is, they immediately get tripped by him so he can lick and/or dog hair them to death. Gotta love it! Jul 29 14 12:23 am Link Lovely Day Media wrote: He barely even barks anymore, honestly. He whines a lot. RP Photo made a thread about him awhile back. He's mildly terrified of everything and doesn't have an aggressive or angry bone is his body. He just.... is really clumsy and drools a lot and licks everything. Mostly my face. Sometimes my toes. Jul 29 14 12:35 am Link My gurl Daisy, and my boy Jake are "pitiful" examples of jest how vicious these blockheads are . . .  Jake sleeps 23.85 hours a day, only getting up to eat, and fertilize the yard . . . Daisy, at 14 years old (acts like she's 2), constantly patrols the yard, keeping Jake and I safe from squirrels, birds, lizards and large bugs . . . then plants herself on my lap for at least a half hour session of snuggling, before she naps for an hour or so . . . if they were any more docile, they'd be pillows . . . we live in an urban setting, their yard is fully fenced, and they are woefully spoiled by not only myself, but, all the neighbors around us . . . I'm hoping to come back as one of them in my next life . . . SOS Jul 29 14 01:07 am Link Google --> pitbull attacks videos https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c … s&safe=off About 8,890,000 results (0.29 seconds) From page 1 --- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/1 … 75584.html http://video.foxnews.com/v/283426410300 … show-clips http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1382129917 http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v … Ek9BPjM5ro http://www.khou.com/news/local/Life-Fli … 00601.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-iYiCBz7Uw http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/06/28/ … bay-ridge/ http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/09/26/c … -pit-bulls http://www.9news.com/video/330404247600 … ull-attack Jul 29 14 03:12 am Link Dogs are dogs. No matter what their breed, they live to serve, even my little Chihuahua Sassy. Her whole life is wrapped around my wife and me. My oldest brother passed away recently after a seven year battle with cancer. If Sassy wasn't here, I'd be going nuts. I am a part-time cashier at a PETCO here in Orlando. I get to meet all kinds of dogs everyday. Probably three times a week I get to meet a new Pit and each one is just wonderful. A young woman was in the store recently with her Pit-mix buying her a bag of cookie treats from our treat bar. This big sweet dog held off a would-be burglar trying to come through the sliders of the woman's house a couple of nights before. There is a homeless couple in our area who have a male Pit, un-neutered because they don't have any money. Their dog gets to ride around all day in a stolen shopping cart, just as happy as he can be. This guy is such a charmer I bought him a can of Blue Buffalo so he could eat the day I met him. I could go on and on. I have yet to meet a bad Pit or Pit owner. When a Pit smiles its whole face lights up!  Come visit me and bring your dog so I can meet both of you. I usually open, so I'm there at 9:00 am... Jul 29 14 04:16 am Link 
Model Posts: 6639 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica These articles are just from the last 10 days. When you get a dog because you think it's adorable and you ignore the facts about the breed, you are putting lives at risk. I sincerely hope someone you care about doesn't die this way. Please be responsible. http://tbo.com/news/breaking-news/river … -20140720/ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa … -1.1874267 Jul 29 14 06:42 am Link MoRina wrote: Thanks for your input Mo, but I am hoping for a more uplifting thread... Jul 29 14 08:06 am Link Michael Bots wrote: My mom has a friend from Jamaica living in Canada (Toronto, I believe) and she's very, very anti-pit bull, too. She is aggressively adamant about legalizing the BSL in her area and other areas and she'll do all she can to make it possible. Jul 29 14 08:19 am Link I'm guessin' not everyone listened to, or read the article FL posted . . . they point out that the term "pit bull" is usually a catch all for a wide variety of cross breeds and mutts that both news agencies and law enforcement use in lieu of specific breeds, and that true APBT's, ST's account for a very small percentage of both biting incidents, and deaths . . . they also note that BSL's do very little to change the incidence of either once enacted . . . may want to reread the ten myths about "pit bulls" posted in the article, it might be enlightening to many . . . as with any energetic, physical pet, a lot of patient training is essential . . . I'm sure owners of mastiffs, rottweilers, shepherds, dobies, great danes, et al, would agree . . . now, back to the good stuff, Jake would like to see a few more fun pix of members "friends" . . . SOS Jul 29 14 08:35 am Link sospix wrote: I admit. I originally only looked at the pictures and the bold print, but skipped reading the full article and skinned each topic for a total of 28 seconds. Jul 29 14 09:12 am Link Lumen Sky wrote: Yup! Jul 29 14 09:14 am Link J Jessica wrote: Ya can tell he has ulterior motives . . . he wants ta steal yer cookies . . . Jul 29 14 09:21 am Link In most police reports and also many media stories, there's about 35 different dog breeds that are commonly referred to as "pitbulls". Jul 29 14 11:17 am Link Jul 29 14 11:46 am Link When my sister got my last dog (a pit bull/boxer mix), she used to bite me all the time. I chalked it up to her playing but not knowing her own strength or how sharp her teeth were/are. It hurt! She never broke the skin or bruised me, though. After a while, I got smart and started smacking her each time she did it. She eventually stopped. She never bit me again. Later, after I inherited/adopted her, it only took a week or so for her to forget about my sister (for the most part). She'd come when I called, do what I said and stay by my side, especially if I had food she thought she could get some of or I was sitting somewhere and she thought she could get petted some more. She didn't like children much but I think it's a product of them making too much noise, making too many fast, sudden movements and them not wanting to share their food. Once my nieces started feeding her, she was okay with them, too. Previous to them feeding her, she'd leave the room so she didn't have to see them much. I still miss her and she has been gone a little over 4 years now. Jul 29 14 12:17 pm Link I've seen them for the good and bad. I've been around Pits that are incredibly docile, while others have been extremely aggressive. The conclusion that I have come to, is that the demeanor of the dog has more to do with the owner and other dogs that it has been raised with, than "genetic predisposition." I also have a neighbor who has a medium sized mutt of unknown mix (I don't see anything resembling a Pit in it), who will bite in a heartbeat. I get along fine with the dog, simply because I made a point of buying dog bones when the neighbor moved in and I realized the issue with the dog. It has taken awhile, but the dog now views me as a trusted friend and not a potential invader of its territory. Jul 29 14 12:35 pm Link Michael Bots wrote: Because these were completely necessary in a positive thread. Jul 29 14 02:25 pm Link Skydancer Photos wrote: Thank you. Jul 29 14 02:26 pm Link If you would have asked a few years back I probably would have been one of those people saying that "Never trust a pitbull." Actually come to think about it I think that's what I told my brother when he took in his first one about 5 years ago. She was an older dog on her final years and his friend was unable to keep her anymore. Anyway, she was one of the most patient, loyal, friendly, playful, loveable dogs you can come across. She got along with the cats, other dogs of all sizes, birds etc. She was as sweet of a BEAST as you can be. And I say beast because her idea of fetch was carrying around logs the size of tree trunks. (no joke.) Anyway, she passed a few years back and he picked up another pit, this time a puppy. She is also as sweet as they come. The only thing you have to worry about with her is her licking you to death. That's about it. So I chose to believe all of what the media showed until I experienced otherwise first hand. No matter what kind of pet you have obviously you are going to have to be careful with children. Even a cute kitten can poke an eye out if handled incorrectly. Jul 29 14 06:36 pm Link  Jul 30 14 04:31 am Link DwLPhoto wrote: How'd that danged Rottweiler get in there with all those full blooded Pitties . . . Jul 30 14 06:46 am Link The Pit Bull was bred purely for bloodsports, if You believe that genes affect behaviors then the breed has the potential to (and has) become vicious. Jul 30 14 07:08 am Link I loved the "Behind The Myth" documentary.... excellent examples from police, the media, pet owners, legislators about how the system works and how this breed just was made into an example unjustly. Definitely worth a watch... it was o netflix but im sure it can be found online also http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Myth-Libby … B00ACMSVHA http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70254235?trkid=439131 http://www.beyondthemythmovie.com/ Jul 30 14 08:00 am Link Surprised nobody thought of Die Antwoord: Pit Bull Terrier Jul 30 14 08:11 am Link Fifty One Imaging wrote: If by "bloodsports" you mean ratters, you're correct, the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier . . . Jul 30 14 08:20 am Link 'The Pit Bull Terrier was created by breeding Old English Terriers and Old English Bulldogs together to produce a dog that combined the gameness of the terrier with the strength and athleticism of the bulldog. These dogs were bred in England, and arrived in the United States where they became the direct ancestors of the American Pitbull Terrier. In the United Kingdom pit bulls were used in bloodsports such as bull baiting, bear baiting and cock fighting. These bloodsports were officially eliminated in 1835 as Britain began to introduce animal welfare laws. Since dogfights were cheaper to organise and far easier to conceal from the law than bull or bear baits, bloodsport proponents turned to pitting their dogs against each other instead. Dog fighting was used as both a bloodsport (often involving gambling) and a way to continue to test the quality of their stock. For decades afterwards, dog fighting clandestinely took place in small areas of Britain and America. In the early 20th century pitbulls were used as catch dogs in America for semi-wild cattle and hogs, to hunt, and drive livestock, and as family companions.[6] Some have been selectively bred for their fighting prowess.' 'A 9-year (1979–88) review of fatal dog attacks in the United States determined that, of the 101 attacks in which breed was recorded, pit bulls were implicated in 42 of those attacks (42%).[24] A 1991 study found that 94% of attacks on children by pit bulls were unprovoked, compared to 43% for other breeds.[25] A 5-year (1989–94) review of fatal dog attacks in the U.S. determined that pit bulls and pit bull mixed breeds were implicated in 24 (29%) of the 84 deaths in which breed was recorded.[26] A 20-year (1979-1998) study by the American Veterinary Medical Association into fatal dog attacks on humans[27] concluded that "fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers)," and that "pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half" (67%) of all the 238 recorded dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF) in the United States during that period, with pit bulls accounting for 66 deaths. They also wrote that: "It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities."[27] A 15-year (1991–2005) review of dog attack fatalities investigated by the Kentucky Medical Examiner determined that pit bulls were implicated in 5 of the 11 fatal attacks (45%).[28] Another 15-year (1994–2009) review of patients admitted to a Level I Trauma Center with dog bites determined that pit bulls were most often involved in these attacks: of the 228 patients treated, the breed of dog was recorded in 82 attacks, and of these, 29 (35%) of the attacks were by pit bulls.[29] In 45% of the attacks, the dog belonged to the victim's family.[29] A 5-year (2001–05) review of dog attack victims admitted to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia determined that pit bull terriers were implicated in more than half of the bites where breed was identified. Of the 269 patients where breed was identified, 137 (51%) were attacked by pit bulls.[30] The authors wrote: "...the overwhelming number of bites involving pit bull terriers in this study and others certainly has some degree of validity when it comes to identifying bite-prone breeds. Pit bull terriers, German shepherds, and Rottweilers were the offending breeds implicated in our study, and have accounted for the majority of dog bites according to other investigators."[30] A review of the medical literature found that pit bulls and pit bull cross-breeds were involved in 42–45% of dog attacks.[31] Fatalities were most often reported when children were attacked, with 70% of victims being under the age of 10.[31] Some other studies on the number of human deaths caused by dog bite trauma have surveyed news media stories for reports of dog-bite-related fatalities. This methodology is subject to potential errors, as some fatal attacks may not have been reported, a study might not find all relevant news reports, and the dog breed might be misidentified.' Source: Wiki Jul 30 14 08:34 am Link Fifty One Imaging wrote: As was mentioned earlier in this thread, and in the originally posted article, the label "Pit Bull" has become a catch all for a wide range of mutts and cross breeds by the media and police agencies . . . if you'd like to read some contradictory statistics to the above, as to the behaviour of true APBT's, and ST's (as recognized breeds), they're also readily available on the internet . . . as far as using animals in what are more commonly known as "bloodsports" today, pretty much any animal you can starve into a frenzy will fight, from cocks, to bears, to elephants, to any breed of dog . . . my two "guys" would rather jest sit on the couch and snore away in front of the TV . . . Jul 30 14 08:52 am Link I think Jake may have posed for this . . .  . . . AND, I think he was nude when he did it . . . SOS Jul 30 14 11:03 am Link Seems my thread has become very controversial. What I wanted was to provide some enlightenment as to the wonder of dogs, Pits in particular. It would seem that there are a great many people who are either very afraid of any dog or just dislike dogs, the Pit Bull Terrier in particular. This saddens me. Dogs have been associated with mankind for more than 40,000 years. We made dogs what they are today. We need dogs and dogs need us. Some see a dog as a tool, like police and our soldiers in combat. Others have a dog with them because the dog is a needed, helpful companion, such as people who suffer from seizures or who are blind. Even in a working role, a dog is a trusted and valued friend. Any dog, my Chihuahua, a Pit, a Lab, a German Shepherd, is just too wonderful a gift to be viewed as a menace for any reason. Any dog, with proper training, is a needed and useful member of our society, more so than some people I have encountered in my lifetime. Dogs contribute such wonder and richness to our lives and all that they ask is to be loved in return. So when you read a report in the newspaper about a dog attack, ask yourself why it happened don't just accept that the attack happened. When the blow-dried, pretty news-reader on your local news affiliate over dramatizes the story of a dog attack, take it with a grain of salt, because that news-reader is not giving you the news so much as selling advertising. And if you are looking to add a dog to your family, then rescue a dog. So many dogs are languishing in shelters today. Rescue a dog, bring it home, love that dog and you get so much love in return. https://www.petfinder.com/ Jul 30 14 11:28 am Link It is flawed logic... I am referring to the Wikipedia article excerpts quoted above which tell us about how the majority of dog attacks are perpetrated by pit bulls. I do not question the statistics. However, the inference that the problem stems from some inherent defect in a particular breed of dog is just wrong. If we were able to see similar statistics from previous decades we would likely see breeds other than the pit bull being implicated as inherently dangerous or evil. It is not the particular breed of dog, it is who they are raised by and what they are exposed to. Unfortunately, the wanna-be tough guys, thugs, gang-bangers, etc are going to be attracted to whatever breed happens to have the status or reputation that these guys are hoping to portray in their lives. Put another way, a certain class of people who lack requisite qualities to be responsible pet owners, are attracted to the pit bull for all the wrong reasons. Before going any further please let me be clear: I am NOT saying that pit bull owners in general are irresponsible. Clearly, many pit bull owners (including all those who posted here) are loving, sane, responsible, and are devoted to and positively involved in the lives of their pets. But sadly, there are others out there who either are unable to, don't know how to, or don't want to provide a positive influence in the lives of their dogs. If this class of pet owner is more likely, statistically, to choose a pit bull vs other breeds then what do you think the results will be? Jul 30 14 12:32 pm Link I owned a Male Keeshond who was very mild mannered, to immediate Family. No one else could get anywhere near the Dog. He once chased Four grown Men into the back of a Pickup truck and held them at bay, for Hours. The Animal had an explosive temperament toward strangers. Jul 30 14 12:42 pm Link I have heard that all the dogs that were involved in Michael Vick's dog fighting operations all got placed with families ... except 1. That one got put down because they had used her for breeding far too much and she lost her mind. The rest of the dogs are apparently doing well. These were dogs that were actually used for fighting in most cases. Vicious enough to tear another dog's throat out but calm and/or docile enough to hang out with a family. What does that say about these dogs? As a younger person, I had heard all the negative things about pit bulls, too, and the hype had me a little bit afraid to meet one. This all changed when I delivered a pizza to someone's house. The pit bull wanted to be petted and rub himself all over me. The poodle wanted to eat me! Go figure on that one. That ended my fear of pit bulls. A few years ago, I went to a friend's house who had a rottweiler. Most dogs bark when someone comes into the yard, rings the doorbell, etc in my experience. In this case, I walked in (carte blanche at their house) and sat down on the couch. This dog got up out of her bed, walked to me and laid down for me to rub her stomach. She didn't make a sound that I heard. These are mean, evil, vicious dogs, though. All of them are. Jul 30 14 12:42 pm Link Any excuse to post more photos of my big baby. No one can resist this face. :3  Jul 30 14 06:56 pm Link |
