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Hi all!! I'm just wondering what other Mua's use in their kit for dry skin? I done a wedding makeup trial for two people this month, the first time I used Mac Pro long wear as they wanted full matte coverage and something to last all day long. Initially they were happy but then called me a few hours later to say it felt very dry and tight and they had to wash it off. I agreed to do a re-trial where I then tried Chanel lumiere Aqua on one side of their faces and makeup forever hd on the other. They again said they were happy but then called a few a hours later to say it didn't last and within a couple of hours turned patchy.. One had normal skin and the other lady had slightly dry skin. What am I doing wrong?? I ALWAYS prep the skin my exfoliating, cleansing and moisturising, followed by a colour corrector before foundation. I apply the foundation in thin layers and build up if more is needed. Is there such thing as a full coverage non drying long lasting all day foundation?? If so I would love to know what it is!!  Also what do others use to contour? I usually use foundation and then a neutral matte bronzer on top to contour + highlighter but would like to know what foundation is good to contour with, has anyone tried the Bobbi brown foundation stick? I've been doing makeup freelancing for 3 years or so now and these are the 2nd lot of people that didn't like my work.. I know it's not that many people but still knocks my confidence a bit.. Thanks in advance! Apr 21 15 02:35 am Link kelly melissa wrote: Kelly this is one of the primary reason's Agencies prefer to sign artist who are licensed Estheticians... the epidermis is incredibly complex, your skin is the largest organ in the body... and every person's epidermis varies especially facial skin since it's constantly exposed to the elements... Also please keep in mind that hormonal changes due to the menstrual cycle wreak havoc on the feminine complexion, sometimes with the precision of the lunar cycles... kelly melissa wrote: Kelly while this is indeed long wearing unfortunately it contains Dimethicone (Dimethyl polysiloxane)... Think silicone here... This Emollient is a known risk which can induce/increase acne... kelly melissa wrote: Have you considered using a topical barrier cream? Oft called a "Primer" these can and do protect the epidermis and are SOP for body painters who absolutely must assure the safety of their clients since they are subjecting massive areas of the epidermis to a myriad of chemical agents... And is one of the primary reasons I will not consider body painting gigs... the liability is too great for my personal professional comfort zone... There are many excellent barrier creams on the market... do your research to be certain that they harmonize well with the foundations/concealers you introduce into your workflow... Apr 21 15 08:22 am Link Thank you so much Thomas! Very informative.. At college I was just taught 'oily skin shouldn't have foundation with oil in and dry skin should' blah, not anything in depth really so since then it's just been trial and error for me, but people's skin types can be so different.. As for primer I use shu eumera under base brightening mousse for oily skin/ normal skin, givenchy acti mine for dry/ normal skin, do you think that's enough of a variety? I guess they aren't specifically primers but they seem to work as Primers as well as colour correctors so thought on top of moisturiser that would be enough on the skin before foundation. I've heard of the rmca one, I will have to check that out! I have some graftobian creams already but am unsure about them, they never seem to sit long on after the skin even after prepping and setting with a powder/ spray etc.. Is the rcma one much different? Does the airbrush makeup cling to any bits? I haven't heard of that airbrush makeup brand over here Apr 21 15 09:19 am Link kelly melissa wrote: I was training to ALWAYS set a cream product with translucent applied on a puff... And to press it in rather firmly with a rolling motion... then follow up with a large dome powder brush to sweep away excess translucent... btw, always sweep your powder brush in the direction of fine facial hair growth so as to not make it stand up which will make it far more visible especially is strong side illumination is used... and togs oft use kicker lights to add drama... kelly melissa wrote: Kelly TEMPTU S/B is the most tenacious product I've used, only lip stains last longer... We are talking 24 to 48 hours... kelly melissa wrote: Kelly, TEMPTU is available in London at the following... Apr 21 15 11:54 am Link Patchiness indicates a problem with either the compatibility of your prep products and your foundation or a problem with the skin itself. Without seeing the skin in person and knowing every product they use, every product you used, and every medication they are on, it's impossible to diagnose the problem accurately. Making educated guesses, I'd bet on the foundation and prep products not playing nicely, which can often cause problems with "lifting" foundation and foundation longevity. Apr 21 15 02:20 pm Link kelly melissa wrote: Hey Kelly... was at the Mall yesterday and noticed the MAC Store was actually nearly devoid of clients! Is Mercury in retrograde? lol So carpe diem I go in an find the MAC Store's lead artist (Tina who is totally awesome!) available and asking what was I looking for... to which I broached your challenge of a bridal client and Pro Longwear Foundation... Apr 23 15 05:57 am Link thank you dani, yes sorry i guess it is quite hard to tell! her skin felt normal and looked normal but when i tried a certain foundation on it was difficult to spread evenly and clung to patches not visible before (took that foundation off of course) and she said it did get dry often, maybe it was dehydrated? is there any ingredients in particular in primers and foundations you should not put in top of eachother? Apr 24 15 01:34 pm Link ah thank you so much thomas! you're amazing. i actually went into my nearest mac store earlier, drove 20 miles there only to be told they don't do the mac pro discount!! argh!! think cause it was in a department store.. i usually order online but the marine softening lotion is out of stock so i guess i'll just have to be patient and wait lol.. did you try out any of the products you mentioned? Apr 24 15 01:39 pm Link I think you may need to add some new products to your skincare kit. For dry skin, I'd recommend a moisturizing cream. I love Origins GinZing Moisturizing cream, very rich and hydrating yet light enough to wear under makeup. I totally recommend Elizabeth Arden 8 Hour Cream, it has a texture that's similar to vaseline, incredibly moisturizing and gives the skin a beautiful dewy glow. Try this… Get Mario Badescu Cucumber Cleansing Lotion, it is a toner, but it does not dry out this skin. Apply this first, it will remove and excess dirt and oils and a little bit of dry skin. Then, apply a moisturizing cream. I love Origins, Charlotte Tilbury's Magic Cream is to die for, but it's about $90  Apply an eye cream as well, I love Khiel's Avocado Eye Cream Treatment. DO NOT apply a primer, this could dry out the skin, it's meant to fill in/smooth over poors. Dry skin needs to breathe. Do not use a long wear foundation. Try foundations that say Lumiere, Luminous, Illuminating etc. Like, NARS Sheer Glow, MAKEUP FOR EVER HD (it isn't meant to be luminous, but it's an amazing foundation), CHANEL Perfection Lumiere, Gorgio Armani Luminous Silk, Laura Mercier Silk Cream Foundation, etc. I've noticed MAC foundations tend to be a bit drying, but my favorite is Studio Sculpt. All of the foundations I mentioned can be full coverage, just build in layers. Try using a damp beauty blender, this method is very moisturizing. Also, use a finely milled, light weight powder. I love MAC Mineralize Skin Finish Natural powders, they're very sheer and look beautiful on the skin. Hope this helps! May 01 15 11:40 am Link |
