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David Hamilton Dead
The controversial British photographer David Hamilton, best known for nude images of young girls, has died at his home in Paris at the age of 83. The circumstances of his death are unclear. Some media reports suggest he killed himself. (BBC report ) RIP !!! Nov 25 16 04:13 pm Link ZMPHOT wrote: An amazing photographer who was considered a feminist in the 70's and a pedofile in the 90's. His background in painting allowed him to break so many "rules" of photography and yet create amazing images. BTW his still life's and florals were just as wonderful as his nudes. Nov 26 16 10:23 am Link "David Hamilton found dead amid allegations of historical rape" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 … historical "Radio and television journalist Flavie Flament, 42, who had recently gone public to claim Hamilton raped her 30 years ago when she was 13, declared she was “devastated” by his death and accused him of “cowardice”. Flament’s claims, made in her recently published book, were vigorously denied by the photographer and her own mother, but three other women came forward anonymously to say Hamilton had raped and sexually assaulted them as girls." Nov 27 16 05:03 am Link Dan Howell wrote: ok so what does this have to do in relation to his photography? There was never any proof, and even in England people are innocent until prove guilty. Nov 27 16 05:57 am Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: I think that his very singular choice of subject and a look behind his methods are inextricably linked to the results. I'm not ready to pillory him, but if you think you can separate the environment and the results in this case, you are blind. Nov 27 16 06:15 am Link With regard to his photography, when I first came across his work I enjoyed it. After a few years of it, I kind of thought he had become a one-trick pony: monotony set in. Nov 27 16 06:46 am Link Dan Howell wrote: I was able to find only two references to Hamilton's "methods" in addition to his Wikipedia page: http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000JCe and https://www.reddit.com/r/photography/co … e_to_get/. To what methods are you referring? I've been trying to replicate it in Photoshop and by using a light mesh screen over the lens but neither is very successful. I'll have to try the proximity to a sunlit window that one of the contributors to the first article mentioned. Nov 27 16 07:02 am Link David Hamilton's photography is perversion captured as fine art. Hebephilia is his disorder. He captures 12 year old girls in lingerie and posed provocatively....basically he dips into the realm of erotica with minors as subjects. Did he rape them? Maybe....I don't know. Did he molest them? Maybe....I don't know. Did he take advantage of their innocence and eroticize them against their will? Yes, definitely.....he shot minors without their parent's present and placed them into poses and outfits that they knew nothing about.....and that's quite perverted, probably criminal. Try doing that today and see what happens. That being said....he was influential. Just look at David Bellemere's more intimate portraits and you can see that David Hamilton's influence on photographic aesthetics is alive and well. The difference being that Bellemere works with adults instead of children. But let's throw some Renaissance artists on the chopping block for a minute. Caravaggio....epic painter, master of light, well known pedophile. Michelangelo, Leonardo Da vinci, Shakesphere.....they have all been suspected of being pedophiles as well. Should we then discount their contribution to art? Nope....we go stare at the captured images of their victims and say "wow...such a masterpiece". Nov 27 16 07:12 am Link Rays Fine Art wrote: Look up David Bellemere and study him instead....it will keep the FBI away from your house Nov 27 16 07:25 am Link *One of my very favorite books....'Dreams of a Young Girl'...by David Hamilton.... .....sits on my bookshelf now for over 30 years...!! I have always loved his style & photography..!!....RIP....David Hamilton Nov 27 16 07:39 am Link When viewing David Hamilton's images 50 years ago...I saw nothing pornographic,,,,all I saw was the beauty of young innocence portrayed with tenderness & style. Nothing was ever proven of the allegations made much later, . The Romans said it well " Nil Nisi Bonnum de Mortuis dicere" ----- Never speak ill of the dead. Nov 27 16 08:40 am Link ZMPHOT wrote: When I viewed his images years ago, I saw the same. Nov 27 16 08:50 am Link Dan Howell wrote: What? So shooting adolescent models means your a rapist? I am not blind and I don't jump to conclusions either. Btw, Hamilton shot amazing landscapes, still life's and florals also. Nov 27 16 11:09 am Link Julietsdream wrote: I agree it is a beautiful book. Nov 27 16 11:13 am Link Julietsdream wrote: Yes, I have that book too. Saw nothing pornographic about his work. Nov 27 16 11:31 am Link This is an image I did which was ment to be an homage to David Hamilton.  This is another +18 https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/33262701 Nov 27 16 01:31 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: Yeah, I'll agree that "pornographic" is too strong of a word. Better words would be "sensual", "provocative", even "suggestive". Granted, I don't have any of his books, but I do have Google.....and when I Google his name, there are about 2 or 3 images of 12 year old girls in the same pose....sheer lingerie, either no panties or sheer panties revealing tanner stage 2 or 3 pubic hair development noted between their spread legs. Maybe that's "art".....certainly if you compare the "spread eagle" pose to Caravaggio's "Cupid" it's similar and that we consider art even though it's rather suggestive and Caravaggio by many accounts was a known pedophile. Nov 28 16 08:01 am Link Place his images in perspective of his time and where he was shooting. Much of what he shot you could see and can today on many of the local European beaches. Even some of the stuff that i would consider borderline, can be seen on today's beaches. Americans and many Canadians are pretty anal about a lot of stuff. We tend to try to fix a problem by going way overboard in the opposite direction. By the standards of some feminists, 50% of the North American female population have been sexually molested. The allegations, are just that allegations. It is possible. But that does not take away from the beauty of the images. All those trying to find filters etc. to imitate his style...good luck. He was a painter and an art directer. His sets were often filled to overcrowding, and everything belonged. His composition and staging were impeccable. If you can do that, then you do not need to imitate him. He was far more than the selective soft-focus. Play this game and see if you can take away, or add anything to his stages. Of course the light in Auvergne may have had some influence. I have tried to sit through a couple of his movies. Beautifully lit, and shot. And the most boring pieces of crap I have ever tried to see. Never made it past 20 min. in any of his movies. His imagery will be missed. His personal life...? Nov 28 16 11:25 pm Link There is, of course, a great deal of controversy surrounding him. I have mixed feelings myself. Despite that, one of my favorite portraits was done by him. It's beautiful. Perhaps 18+. Hell if I know. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc5ul … 1_1280.jpg Nov 30 16 08:03 am Link never liked his stuff girls way too young lens way too covered in vaseline Nov 30 16 10:40 am Link Barry Kidd Photography wrote: That is beautiful. Definitely 18+ for this site. It would be perfectly suitable for the public if it was in The Philadelphia Museum of Art. I can't guess the subject's age. Nov 30 16 11:43 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: I'd guess she's in her late teens to early 20's. Who knows? Nov 30 16 12:43 pm Link |
