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Dontinelle

Posts: 149

New York, New York, US

Okay, so my man got me an airbrush for X-MAS so i am finally taking the plunge, but he's making me order it so I get what I want.  Well, how do I know what I want if I don't already airbrush?

So I have read a bunch of different posts on this question, and I am hoping to get a little more detailed info about a 2 specific things.

1.  It seems that although a .35 gun is kinda standard, that several of you that are skilled with an airbrush recommend a .5 or .3 size gun.  I am a little confused by this because i thought that a .5 would be larger and a .3 smaller than the .35 ?  What is the main difference?  I will be doing mostly beauty and fashion makeup, but would like to play around with body painting until i get skilled enough at it to get a gun better suited to those needs. 

So the 2 guns I have looked at are:

Iwata revolution series HPCR (which I think is a .5)http://www.coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R4500

and the revolution BR (which is the .3)http://www.coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R2500   

the cups are different sizes, but i am more concerned about educating myself on the differences in what the needle sizes can do for me artistically.

I am a blending nazi using traditional makeup application techniques, and VERY detail oriented.  I want to make sure that the gun I get will satisfy me artistically with the results it produces, and not just be left on a shelf because i don't like the results I am getting due to not having enough detailed control over the application.

2nd question!

there are different websites giving different deals, they all seem to come with what I need for the compressor to work.  But there was one that listed that the compressor came with a detachable moisture filter.  the others didn't list this as a feature.  I seem to remember being told this was really important?  What does it do, and do i need it, and should i defenitely make sure that whoever i buy my compressor through that it comes with that?  I am most likely getting the Iwata silver jet. 

Thanks so much in advance to all who reply!

Dec 26 07 04:56 pm Link

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David Klasfeld

Posts: 2665

New York, New York, US

Absolutely go with the BR if your focus is going to be beauty makeup. A .5mm is great for body art and FX, but doesn't allow for the type of precision control you'll want for smaller areas of the face. While the difference between a .35 and a .3 might seem minute, it really does give you more control.

It's also really important to consider the cup size when purchasing any top feed airbrush - a large cup holds no benefit for a makeup artist because you use so little product to do a face makeup application. All a large cup does is collect a lot of product on the sides of it, making you use and waste more product. Body Art is another story entirely. The BR has a smaller cup than all the ones mentioned as well.  It's the one I've used personally for as long as they've had it, I adore it, and so it was easy choice to carry it at OCC.

Same goes for the Silver Jet. It's just the perfect entry level compressor, allowing you to do a little bit of everything. If you move on to either full-on body painting or special FX as a career focus, you'll eventually want something with a little more power behind it, but the Silver Jet is more than ample power for however many beauty makeup applications you need to do.

Every Silver Jet should come with a moisture filter/pistol grip- it's included in the price. The MSRP is $199.00, though several merchants sell it for less. The MSRP of the moisture filter is $47.00 by itself, so if it's not included, the price should reflect that. But you're not doing yourself a favor if it's not included - it's an essential part of the assembly. Beware any brand that tells you the moisture filter is internal - that moisture needs to be released somehow, and if you don't have a way of doing that, there's probably not actually a filter in it.

Hope this helps!
DK

Dec 26 07 05:18 pm Link

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Dontinelle

Posts: 149

New York, New York, US

David Klasfeld wrote:
Absolutely go with the BR if your focus is going to be beauty makeup. A .5mm is great for body art and FX, but doesn't allow for the type of precision control you'll want for smaller areas of the face. While the difference between a .35 and a .3 might seem minute, it really does give you more control.

It's also really important to consider the cup size when purchasing any top feed airbrush - a large cup holds no benefit for a makeup artist because you use so little product to do a face makeup application. All a large cup does is collect a lot of product on the sides of it, making you use and waste more product. Body Art is another story entirely. The BR has a smaller cup than all the ones mentioned as well.  It's the one I've used personally for as long as they've had it, I adore it, and so it was easy choice to carry it at OCC.

Same goes for the Silver Jet. It's just the perfect entry level compressor, allowing you to do a little bit of everything. If you move on to either full-on body painting or special FX as a career focus, you'll eventually want something with a little more power behind it, but the Silver Jet is more than ample power for however many beauty makeup applications you need to do.

Every Silver Jet should come with a moisture filter/pistol grip- it's included in the price. The MSRP is $199.00, though several merchants sell it for less. The MSRP of the moisture filter is $47.00 by itself, so if it's not included, the price should reflect that. But you're not doing yourself a favor if it's not included - it's an essential part of the assembly. Beware any brand that tells you the moisture filter is internal - that moisture needs to be released somehow, and if you don't have a way of doing that, there's probably not actually a filter in it.

Hope this helps!
DK

David,

thanks so much, thats pretty much what i thought on the guns!

about the compresor, i think that a lot of the sites i am looking at use a standard description that Iwata puts out about their compresors, because it's all the same exact verbiage on the features for many sites.  It does list the pistol grip filter, just doesn't use the phrase "moisture filter".  Is it the same thing?  here is what they list it coming with:


Silver Jet

Powerful, compact, reliable and quiet, the Silver Jet us a single-person, light-duty, entry-level compressor. It features working pressure adjustable from 10-18 psi, perfect for cosmetics, tanning, hobbies/models, fingernail painting, bakery and general airbrushing. The Silver Jet includes a coiled airhose, Iwata Pistol-Grip Filter, pressure adjustable knob, handle, airbrush holder, pressure gauge and convenient airhose connector.

Price: $119.00
136.60 AUD 117.50 CAD 82.65 EUR

Thanks so much!

Dec 26 07 05:27 pm Link

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David Klasfeld

Posts: 2665

New York, New York, US

Yup, that's it - the "Iwata Pistol-Grip Filter". Coast is a very reputable company - I'm sure you're getting everything that's supposed to come with it. Enjoy!

Dec 26 07 05:38 pm Link

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Dontinelle

Posts: 149

New York, New York, US

thanks David...

REALLY appreciate it!

Dec 26 07 05:49 pm Link