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OK...I've noticed that there are far more people interested in bodypainting than there are people teaching it. I'm trying to put together a team of professionals to produce a "how to" video or three. I could really use some input, so if you are considering learning to bodypaint please let me know what you think. So a few questions...if you don't mind. 1- Which style of bodypaint are you most interested in learning? a) The old fashioned style. Brushes, sponges, and etc. b) Airbrush bodypaint c) A combination of both (which is what I usually do myself) 2-What level of instruction are you looking for? a) basics including safety, materials, and so forth b) intermediate including techniques and standard practices c) advanced including special effects, eye popping tricks, and textures 3- What sort of instruction would you like to see included? a) everything starting with equipment, materials, safety, and so forth b) technique, technique, technique (you can learn everything else by reading) c) Skip the basics, you want to see special tricks and advanced techniques How much would you be willing to pay for... a) a basic 30 minute video lesson? b) a 45-60 minute demonstration of a particular design or style? c) a super informative 90 minute video with close ups, special animations or scenes to illustrate concepts, and supporting booklet? Does it matter to you if the model is male or female? Would you prefer the model to be fully nude, or minimally clothed? DO you think you would rather see... a) the instructor talking directly to you, the viewer? b) the instructor talking to a student or a couple of students? c) the instructor instructing a class, only you get the benefit of close ups and camera angles? Please, let me know what you think, or if there are things you think are important that you would like to see covered. If I do this thing, I will want it to be excellent. Most of the videos that I've seen on the topic have been either completely misinformed, really badly produced, or bordering on pornography instead of instruction. I appreciate your input, so thanks in advance! ~Rich Jan 02 08 11:14 am Link I'm going to bump this, just because this is such a great idea. Rich I'll pm you with my suggestions. Jan 02 08 02:51 pm Link Thanks. Considering how many messages I get from photographers asking my secrets...perhaps I should have posted in their forum. Jan 02 08 04:30 pm Link I've noticed that too! All of the do-it-yourself togs LOVE to ask about bodypainting. Though who can blame them. They get to have a legit reason to touch up babes and then document it. A Genious idea on their part. Maybe you will get a better response there. You could even market it there so they can see some t&a up close for their viewing pleasure... Jan 02 08 09:43 pm Link Oh believe me, it is tempting...I know the money would be there but I aspire to a higher purpose. Then again, I'll see how my bank account looks after the mortgage check clears. I might be humbled enough then to start marketing to GWC's  Jan 02 08 09:45 pm Link I just know you do darn good work! I respect the time it takes to do this. Jan 02 08 09:50 pm Link 1) C 2) A 3) A 4) a) free on youtube. up to $10 for an instructional DVD b) $15 for a DVD c) $20-25 for a DVD 5) female (i havent even see a guy in body paint yet) 6) nude with...coverings...you know..for the important parts 7) A, definitely Jan 02 08 09:54 pm Link 1) C 2) A B 3) A 4) $19.95 - you will sell more @ 20.00 i'll buy it now @30.00 or more i need to think on it.. 5) female 6) nude 7) C it will be a good thing..  Jan 02 08 09:59 pm Link Thank you all for the input. My biggest problem will apparently be maximizing information while minimizing the time and production cost of the video so that I can still keep the price low. I'd love to hear what others have to say. Jan 02 08 10:04 pm Link I'm primarily a videographer specializing in instructional video. But, I've always been interested in body art and I first saw body art in my air brush magazines. Here's my 2 cents. I would pay for the full monte (I don't mean nudity here). I know, from personal experience, that making a DVD about a subject you love is difficult. You will have to spend a lot of time planning to make editing easier. Recording a classroom session is the easiest and least satisfying. But doing a highly graphic laden production is very difficult. I've tried it. So, I suggest a mix. 1) Begin by giving a lecture to the viewer, using props, about materials, safety and history. Be sure to cover prerequisites, such as, "learn to draw." 2) Show a real time session using mixed techniques. I like real time because it treats the viewer as an apprentice. It also is easier to produce than a highly condensed, efficient video program. I would not use nude models for two reasons. First, the video can then be used in schools or by kids. Second, you should keep the canvas small if you are going to work real-time. If you have to stop to let paint dry, obviously you would cut this out. But you might want to show how you clean brushes, airbrush etc. at least once. 3) Probably on a second DVD of a set you can show special problems or techniques. This second one can be produced as a separate project for sale later. Since I am not a MUA, modify the above to correct for stupidity. But, as you have already seen, photographers, artists, models, and many others will be interested in this project. I can see it for sale through the air brush magazines and elsewhere. Best of luck and put me on the waiting list. Edit: This is worth $40 to $60 per hour on DVD. That makes four hours on two DVDs worth up to $240. I'd rather spend $120 at a time for two installments. Jan 02 08 10:05 pm Link BodyPainter Rich wrote: Control production costs through planning. Don't get too complex. Jan 02 08 10:19 pm Link RiverGrizzly wrote: Excellent points Grizzly, this is definitely a for profit venture. Sharing my love of craft is one thing, but if I'm going to put this much work into something...I want it to PAY! Jan 02 08 11:39 pm Link I've been painting and drawing my whole life, so I would be less interested in technique and more interested in the basics. I'm used to mediums like oils, acrylics, gouache, markers, gesso, plaster of paris and so on. I know how to stretch and prep a canvas, but I'm not sure as where to start when painting on the body. Nor what brushes are best, whether to use a sealant/fixative, or what type of paint is appropiate. If you were to make a video or book (I do better with books) for both each painters to apply their existing knowledge to bodypainting and people who are beginners to painting period, I think that would be great. I would definitely buy it. With that said: 1. A 2. A & B 3. A 4. A (even though I prefer books) 5. Male or Female, but I'd be interested to see how to achieve dimension on males that are muscular. 6. Minimally clothed 7. Talking directly to me Jan 03 08 12:07 am Link 1. C 2. B 3. B 4. a) $20 b) $20 c) $60 Sex of model would not matter. It may be a thought to do a demo on both? I would like to see how it is done with minimal clothing. 5. I would prefer the instruction given to the viewer. Jan 03 08 12:31 am Link 1- Which style of bodypaint are you most interested in learning? c) A combination of both (which is what I usually do myself) 2-What level of instruction are you looking for? a) basics including safety, materials, and so forth b) intermediate including techniques and standard practices 3- What sort of instruction would you like to see included? a) everything starting with equipment, materials, safety, and so forth b) technique, technique, technique (you can learn everything else by reading) How much would you be willing to pay for... I think the prices that everyone above has said,are very reasonable. because it takes time and effort to do this. Does it matter to you if the model is male or female? probably both, just so we can see different styles on each gender Would you prefer the model to be fully nude, or minimally clothed? depends on the style ur doing, if its just part of the body minimally, if its the whole body then nude DO you think you would rather see... uhm doesnt matter Jan 03 08 12:40 am Link Decadence D wrote: There is always the chance of a book, it's just that books need publishers. I can independently produce a video and then find distribution or sell on the web. Jan 03 08 11:34 am Link BodyPainter Rich wrote: Jan 03 08 12:41 pm Link 1-c, 2-a, 3-a, 4-a,b,or c, 5-no, 6-female, 7-a or c Let me know if you do anything with this, sounds great. Best of luck Jan 03 08 12:46 pm Link Rich, you should check out online publishing for books. Once you get the script down, a book would not be that hard or expensive to produce. A video could be more informative, and I would produce it first, but could be included in the book, later on.. just a thought Jan 03 08 12:52 pm Link i love body painting, i do most of the parades in shreveport, the revels, the festivals, and some balls...SUPER FUN! good money too my favorite products are the snazaroo products you could always do a youtube video..it's free..and you can ask people to subscribe to a site that you own to purchase products, more ''indetail'' videos, etc etc. Great way to network, who doesn't know what youtube is these days?! here are some of the examples for my portfolio back when lol I REALLLY need to update my port! I have tons of work just haven't had time to update..i do admit i know i am not the best but i am self taught, and my customers seem to be pleased, esp. with the new stuff!     Jan 03 08 12:54 pm Link Michael, Do you mean self publishing a book online, or do you mean find a small self publisher online? I'm not real clear on it, do you know of any links? Traciee, Do you have your work posted anywhere? ~Rich Jan 03 08 07:46 pm Link I belive this would be a starting point for a self print book link. http://www.blurb.com Jan 03 08 08:13 pm Link I belive you could do this in more than 1 cd/dvd. 1st. basic inst. 2nd. intermdiate inst. 3rd. advanced inst. 4th. tips and tricks. 1.c, 2.abc, 3.abc, $20-$50 per, 5.both, 6.both, 7.c. Jan 03 08 08:25 pm Link BodyPainter Rich wrote: John D Dickison wrote: Yes, I print out instructional books all the time that are in PDF format from off the net. Jan 04 08 01:27 am Link BodyPainter Rich wrote: i only have my stuff posted on myspace and in cards, i have a huge binder that i carry around with all of my work in it Jan 04 08 04:16 pm Link 1 c 2 abc 3 abc 4 a 20 b 40 c 40 Would like to see both genders but more interested in male paint work. It is rare to see. Preferably nude. Instructor talking to me. Feb 18 09 01:40 pm Link 1- Which style of bodypaint are you most interested in learning? c) A combination of both (which is what I usually do myself) 2-What level of instruction are you looking for? a) basics including safety, materials, and so forth b) intermediate including techniques and standard practices c) advanced including special effects, eye popping tricks, and textures i'm interested in all but not at once. i think three videos for different starting off points is best for the viewer but most difficult for you. 3- What sort of instruction would you like to see included? a) everything starting with equipment, materials, safety, and so forth i'd also like some technique and some cool tricks so i feel like an 'insider.' haha. How much would you be willing to pay for... a) a basic 30 minute video lesson? Free on youtube. Maybe this is to hook people. Show me 30 min of set up and safety or a cool little trick. how much i pay for B and C depends on how much i get out of your teaching style. i would say $50-$100. Does it matter to you if the model is male or female? No. But female just makes more sense because they are more often painted. Would you prefer the model to be fully nude, or minimally clothed? Nude. Nothing i haven't seen before. And it's good to show people how mature and professional you behave around them. DO you think you would rather see... a) the instructor talking directly to you, the viewer? The only reason i would want to see students is if they knew what they were doing. But if they are the same level as me effin' up all over the place, i don't want to see it. Besides, i like to think i'm the only person in the world! Feb 18 09 02:32 pm Link Hi Rich, Just saw this post!!~! One addition I would like to see is "Trouble-shooting": what/when/why your airbrush clogs; cracking/peeling paint; best products to use... Please let me know when it's done- I'll buy~! Feb 19 09 08:39 pm Link I have workshops all over the joint! Jul 15 09 12:44 am Link 1- Which style of bodypaint are you most interested in learning? c) A combination of both (which is what I usually do myself) 2-What level of instruction are you looking for? a) basics including safety, materials, and so forth b) intermediate including techniques and standard practices c) advanced including special effects, eye popping tricks, and textures I think you should do installments on all three... beginner, intermediate and advanced. 3- What sort of instruction would you like to see included? a) everything starting with equipment, materials, safety, and so forth b) technique, technique, technique (you can learn everything else by reading) c) Skip the basics, you want to see special tricks and advanced techniques Depending on if you do installments of 3 different videos, ab and c just on the correct video How much would you be willing to pay for... a) a basic 30 minute video lesson? not much can be actually taught in 30 minutes, I'd probaby pay 40. b) a 45-60 minute demonstration of a particular design or style? probably 60 or 70 c) a super informative 90 minute video with close ups, special animations or scenes to illustrate concepts, and supporting booklet? 150 to 175 Does it matter to you if the model is male or female? It would be nice to have both... male and female. Would you prefer the model to be fully nude, or minimally clothed? Probably minimally clothed depending on the people watching it. DO you think you would rather see... a) the instructor talking directly to you, the viewer? definitely the director instructing me. This would be great... Include what you would include in lessons, it doesnt matter how long it is... charge more for a series. I would imagine it would be snatched up very quickly. just make the video a high quality detailed video. Even if people do not become "A" class body painters, they will take some technique from this. Jul 18 09 01:47 pm Link I sure hope a list of basic equipment and supplies will be included...if not a starter kit. Jul 18 09 02:00 pm Link |
