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Painted... umm... kitties?
Ok so I have no idea how to phrase the title without getting this thread locked, so please pardon the cute title. I have a bodypaint/liquid latex shoot coming up soon. In the past when painting the full body, I tend to avoid the groove for fear of causing some irritation (or worse). Then we just pose the model so it's not showing. But I have one coming up and need to keep even that spot painted as well. I've done my share of liquid latex shooting and am fully aware of the precautions and steps needed to help insure comfort and safety of the model. However, I've seen the look in a model's eyes (she wants to kill me) after we peel her and find a patch of peach fuzz that she missed with the razor. I can only imagine the look on her face as she peels some latex off her labia. So I am looking for safe products to use down there on a model. I would assume latex is ok as long as she isn't sensetive to it. But the dyes and possible irritation from peeling make me want to find an alternative. Any ideas? Jan 07 08 02:12 pm Link We have done several body painting shoots. Usually we just touch up the non-painted areas during editing. However, you could use something other then latex for the body painting. The paint used on the models in our portfolio (I am guessing) is Ben Nye Makeup. It looks great on the body and can be painted pretty much anywhere (with caution). It also cleans off really easy with soap and water.  This is one we had to do some touch ups to in editing. Her underarms were left un-painted and several of the colors had to be touched up due to moving around during the shoot and some of the paint being rubbed off. It only took a few minutes to do the touch ups since they were solid colors. If you plan on a specific design then it may be a little more difficult. Jan 07 08 02:23 pm Link My advice would be to avoid the genitalia all together if possible for reasons of safety and sanitation. If you must, I would go with the most hypo allergenic, gentle, water-based makeup you can find. Unless you are shooting pornography, or a VERY graphic artistic statement I don't know why you would need to paint in such a sensitive area. What I often do if I am worried about skin color showing up in a given shot, I usually use airbrush to give a quick spray of water-based makeup in one appropriate color and the problem is solved quickly, cleanly, and with minimal contact. Jan 07 08 02:27 pm Link Oh..and for the record "genitalia" will get a much more professional response than "kitties" Jan 07 08 02:28 pm Link BodyPainter Rich wrote: Thanks, yeah I had a late night and my vocabulary isn't up to spec today. Jan 07 08 02:33 pm Link Seriously, given the concerns you and the model have voiced...airbrush is a good bet but really posing should do the trick just fine. You can look through my portfolio...very few of the models were painted ALL over. Jan 07 08 02:41 pm Link Well, the concerns were more mine than hers, she just liked the idea of the shoot to break out of her mold. I would rather sound overly cautous than just in without any idea of the potential problems. So when the date gets closer, do you have any objections if I email you more specific questions? Jan 07 08 02:55 pm Link Oh dear lord, I thought I was going to have to get on my No Animal Testing soapbox again. To put this simply, avoid any and all mucous membranes, be they on the face or elsewhere on the body. In the case of liquid latex specifically, this is imperative. Crotch patches and plain old g-strings are your friend, and many a one has been painted over seamlessly so as to make them appear like they weren't even there in the first place. Hope this helps, DK Jan 07 08 02:55 pm Link Hilson Photography wrote: Actually, I think your makeup artist has already contacted me, and while I don't always have time to answer I don't mind getting questions. Jan 07 08 03:19 pm Link I thought you were actually talking about painting cats:  http://books.google.com/books?id=36LPw2 … il#PPT1,M1 Jan 07 08 03:26 pm Link For my full body work, I just had the model wear pure white underwear, painted overtop, then photoshopped it.  However, I've had some of my special fx friends use liquid latex to create a latex underwear! They pour a medium-thin layer of latex into a large, rimmed cooking sheet. The let it dry, so that they're left with a large piece of dried latex. You have to make sure the edges are thin enough to blend. They then cut the latex on-set to fit onto the model's natural shape, then they take prosaid and place it about 1/2" onto the underside of the latex piece. They blend out the edges to smooth into the skin. Mind you, this technique doesn't always work and can be VERY tricky to pull off. Jan 07 08 03:40 pm Link David Klasfeld wrote: Crotch patches, I never thought of that. That is definitely a good idea and a welcome suggestion. BodyPainter Rich wrote: Yeah, she emailed me about the chromed silver bodypaint thing and said that she had been in contact with someone about it. Jan 07 08 03:40 pm Link Jessica Elliot wrote: Then why not trim a baldie skin cap down to fit and seal it down the same way? I think I like this idea the best so far, but I am just trying to minimize prep time. Jan 07 08 03:45 pm Link Hilson Photography wrote: The other option is she buys a "C-string", or something similar. It's like a pastie for the "kittie" area. I think Wicked Temptations (.com) sells them. If she plans on doing such shoots, w/ such a concern, it would benifit her to buy one or two-- plus, it's a cute thing to wear into the bedroom as new lingerie for her b/f or husband Jan 07 08 03:57 pm Link mole skin bought at your local drug store.. Jan 07 08 04:03 pm Link Just watch the adhesives (including the mole skin) that you have the model use... the solution can cause a bigger problem than the, well, problem.... (skin reaction, pulling hair). I often paint models completely nude. The trick is to do a fade to black (or at least a dark color) so that with a typical pose and good lighting, eveything just sorta dissapears. Models ask what the process is and I always tell them that getting painted should never feel like a medical exam. In addition to avoiding mucous membranes, be careful how close you get to the are as well. Remember, the paint that goes on has to come off. And THAT can also cause another problem for the model.   Jan 07 08 07:43 pm Link Black Crow Creations wrote: That image....is.....wow. Perfection to say the least! Jan 07 08 07:47 pm Link Battledress PaintNBody wrote: This is crucial information! Nine times out of ten you'll be using alcohol to do this - remember that it will probably be running down the model's body. Jan 07 08 08:50 pm Link A slice of oblivion wrote: Yes! I've had friends do this too! I forgot about that. Thanks. Jan 07 08 08:55 pm Link If you go for patches, thongs, bald caps, whatever - here's another thing to watch out for... test how paint on the material photogrpahs compared to paint on the skin. May Look the same to the Eye... but may photograph verrrry differently. Particuarly if you are painting with metallics. Another reason I prefer all nude. Jan 07 08 10:11 pm Link If you dont mind doing the post work in photoshop and its merely an issue of her worried about nudity then I would use a patch like other people have suggested. A lot of times a medium to large bandaid is used during love scenes to cover the "kitty" but it is also small enough to not be visible from most angles if put on correctly. (It should only cover the labia.) You could paint over that and then touch it up in post. Jan 08 08 03:43 am Link How about waterbased body paint? Washes off very easy and does not irritate in any way. Good luck Linda Jan 08 08 05:19 am Link BeautyFX wrote: Depending on the brand and the circumstance, this isn't always appropriate. In a controlled studio environment, using great product on a very experienced model (who knows better than to say, curl up on the couch with a magazine during lunch), this can work, but you'll still be watching the paint like a hawk the whole day. With alcohol-based paints, there are far fewer concerns, especially for outdoor, extreme heat, underwater, and action/multiple poses/live events. Jan 08 08 08:23 am Link you can apply a thin coat of petroleum jelly to any sensitive area and paint right over Jan 08 08 08:26 am Link ken daugherty wrote: This trick will not work with all paints. Test on your arm. Try the inside elbow. That way you can test for flexing and rubbing transfer as well. Jan 08 08 02:45 pm Link |
