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Studio-B

Posts: 1239

Central, Alaska, US

I did a search but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.

Do you have brand preferences for body paint in black and white? 

So far I've tried  Kryolan and Ben Nye.  In black I prefer the look of Ben Nye over Kryolan. In white it is more of a toss up. 

Any observations, comparisons, or brand recommendations would be appreciated.

Jan 30 08 11:37 am Link

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Studio-B

Posts: 1239

Central, Alaska, US

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Jan 30 08 12:07 pm Link

Body Painter

BodyPainter Rich

Posts: 18107

Sacramento, California, US

White can be REALLY tricky to get good coverage. Too little and streaks show through, too much and it will crack while you are shooting (at least the water based stuff does).

I haven't tried it yet, but I heard that Wolfe Bros. black is the latest and greatest in the face painting/bodypainting community. Their white is supposed to be good too, though I heard from one painter that it was a bit dry.

I like Kryolan's stuff myself, but I almost always airbrush a bit over it to even out the tone or I spend FOREVER getting an even streak free finish.

Jan 30 08 12:10 pm Link

Photographer

Studio-B

Posts: 1239

Central, Alaska, US

BodyPainter Rich wrote:
White can be REALLY tricky to get good coverage. Too little and streaks show through, too much and it will crack while you are shooting (at least the water based stuff does).

I haven't tried it yet, but I heard that Wolfe Bros. black is the latest and greatest in the face painting/bodypainting community. Their white is supposed to be good too, though I heard from one painter that it was a bit dry.

I like Kryolan's stuff myself, but I almost always airbrush a bit over it to even out the tone or I spend FOREVER getting an even streak free finish.

Thanks.

Jan 30 08 12:20 pm Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 4132

New Castle, Pennsylvania, US

I use an airbrush touch up gun with a 6" fan when doing full body. Spray at a 50% overlap.

Solid color full body does take some practice - no matter if it is a human body or a car hood.

For white I've had continued success with my sponsor's line: Obsessive Compulsive Cosmetics.

Jan 30 08 01:20 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Noella S

Posts: 80

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

For hand painting I prefer Wolfe Bros over Kryolan (in Aqua colors).  I find I can even put black over white or white over black.  However for a large even surface, I also prefer airbrush (and second OCC).

Jan 30 08 03:37 pm Link

Makeup Artist

David Klasfeld

Posts: 2665

New York, New York, US

I'm also into OCC Ink, for airbrush. wink But seriously, no one has our white beat in terms of opacity and texture, and our black is great too. Settling in the bottle is always an issue with all black airbrush paints (especially alcohol-based ones) and ours is no exception, but to rectify that is to compromise the longevity and the coverage, so shake, shake, shake before applying.

As far as hand-applied paints go, nothing's ever beat Make Up For Ever's Color Cream. Neither a lack of opacity or streakiness are a concern. The texture is sort of like buttercream frosting - it's amazing.

The product itself can be hard to find, but it's something I wouldn't hesitate ordering through the NYC Boutique (212-914-9337), sight unseen. You won't be dissapointed. The price is higher than competitive products, but they do offer a professional discount.

I'm just not a fan of water-activated, cake type makeups. True you can "make" all of them work, but the midday crackles are just too much a headache. Wolfe Brothers and Mehron Paradise AQ are the best of the bunch, but if I was painting by hand, I'd reach for the Make Up For Ever stuff.

Jan 30 08 04:05 pm Link

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BodyPainter Rich

Posts: 18107

Sacramento, California, US

David Klasfeld wrote:
I'm also into OCC Ink, for airbrush. wink But seriously, no one has our white beat in terms of opacity and texture, and our black is great too. Settling in the bottle is always an issue with all black airbrush paints (especially alcohol-based ones) and ours is no exception, but to rectify that is to compromise the longevity and the coverage, so shake, shake, shake before applying.

As far as hand-applied paints go, nothing's ever beat Make Up For Ever's Color Cream. Neither a lack of opacity or streakiness are a concern. The texture is sort of like buttercream frosting - it's amazing.

The product itself can be hard to find, but it's something I wouldn't hesitate ordering through the NYC Boutique (212-914-9337), sight unseen. You won't be dissapointed. The price is higher than competitive products, but they do offer a professional discount.

I'm just not a fan of water-activated, cake type makeups. True you can "make" all of them work, but the midday crackles are just too much a headache. Wolfe Brothers and Mehron Paradise AQ are the best of the bunch, but if I was painting by hand, I'd reach for the Make Up For Ever stuff.

David, if it's a cream, does it dry or must it be set? I find when doing a whole body, especially with such high contrast color, you end up getting color transfer between say the elbow and the rib cage unless the area is dried and sealed. This cream sounds great for putting on, but will it stay put without a powder (which might have to wait until the whole design is finished)?

Jan 30 08 04:11 pm Link

Makeup Artist

David Klasfeld

Posts: 2665

New York, New York, US

BodyPainter Rich wrote:
David, if it's a cream, does it dry or must it be set? I find when doing a whole body, especially with such high contrast color, you end up getting color transfer between say the elbow and the rib cage unless the area is dried and sealed. This cream sounds great for putting on, but will it stay put without a powder (which might have to wait until the whole design is finished)?

Rich, I can't imagine you wouldn't love it. You apply like you would cake icing, but not as thick - it goes on with more colour than you'd assume right away. It dries pretty matte, but I'd definitely powder if color transfer is a concern (and I've always found it is, with any non-alcohol-based product). But it easily matches the longevity and durability of the other non-airbrush products mentioned in this thread. It's high underrated - and versatile! I carry little sample pots of some staple colors in my kit at all times as a shadow, shadow base, face paint, etc. It's incredible.

Jan 30 08 04:20 pm Link

Body Painter

BodyPainter Rich

Posts: 18107

Sacramento, California, US

Hmmm...I may have to get me some of that then!

Jan 30 08 04:22 pm Link

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Doug Lester

Posts: 10591

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I've really no idea, but I can tell you what not to do. Several years ago I went to a sort of high end costume rental shop and asked for their best white body paint for full body coverage. Using brushes, we spent at least two hours getting even coverage. It looked great! She was evenly white from top to bottom.   Back then I was shooting film and shot about four 220 rolls with a Mamiya RB67 and took the film to the pro lab I always used.

Picked up the negs and proof prints the next day and to my great surprise, the flash heads shot straight through the paint, which did not record at all on the film. The negs showed her true skin color with absolutely no white, looking as though she had a shinny oil on her skin. Obviously, none were useable. The lady was not a model, but we had shot together with good results several times. After this however, she never worked with me again.

Moral of the story, know who you ask for advice knows what they are talking about!

Jan 30 08 04:25 pm Link

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BodyPainter Rich

Posts: 18107

Sacramento, California, US

Good point, and another moral.

Hire one of us folks to do it for you! wink

Jan 30 08 04:32 pm Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 4132

New Castle, Pennsylvania, US

This is where digital photography is a huge help....

With body paint, what the eye can see may be verrrrry different from what the camera can see.

Lighting is the big variable. You can have skin come through a solid paint in any color... black, white, green. Does not matter. Pearls and metallic paints are a whole nother ball of wax.

I always get progress shots to see if product, model's skin tone and lights can play nice.

Jan 30 08 04:59 pm Link