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iamshaun

Posts: 34

Arlington, Texas, US

Kind of curious how this effect is acheived..

What I'm guessing is some sort of nice flash or strobe is used, with a low shudder speed.. and the flash is set to only have a range of 5-6 feet.. to get the model while allowing the background to stay dark. These were shot in broad daylight, very sunny.. btw.

Any thoughts? I'm really curious how this effect is achieved. I recently bought a Canon 580 speedlite in hopes of being able to capture neat effects like this.

https://www.jacobthephotographer.com/061307/IMG_5271.jpg

https://www.jacobthephotographer.com/061307/IMG_5237.jpg

https://www.jacobthephotographer.com/070407/IMG_0829.jpg

https://www.jacobthephotographer.com/060907/IMG_4289.jpg

Sep 25 07 04:14 pm Link

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Bryan Crump

Posts: 562

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, US

It is done with magic, hehe. Some of it is probably done with multiple exposures.

Sep 25 07 04:25 pm Link

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Chris Macan

Posts: 12969

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

To make the model light and the background darker you need to have more power than the sun. Easy to do at dusk, harder to do in bright sun.

Your flash will need to put out light at least 2-3 stops brighter than the sun light.
Example.... if the sun is yeilding a proper exposure of F8 at 1/60 sec then your flash needs to  be able to light the model at F22 so the the sunlight area appears dark.

Sep 25 07 04:26 pm Link

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Bryan Crump

Posts: 562

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, US

Some with flash, then available light and then blended together in layers. If I figure out the exact technique. I will make a tutorial and link ya to it.
-B

Sep 25 07 04:26 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Not a huge amount of ambient in the first 3, don't need anything too strong to overpower. If I remember right, he's just running around with hotshoe flashes.

Ask him if you want specifics.

http://www.jacobthephotographer.com/

Sep 25 07 04:26 pm Link

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lacephoto

Posts: 154

Oakland, California, US

I am almost sure studio stobes were use for these shots on location  This can also be achieved by lots of speed lites.

Sep 25 07 04:26 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Bryan Crump wrote:
It is done with magic, hehe. Some of it is probably done with multiple exposures.

Not needed. Lighting.

Sep 25 07 04:27 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

lacephoto wrote:
I am almost sure studio stobes were use for these shots on location  This can also be achieved by lots of speed lites.

Not a lot used.

Sep 25 07 04:27 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Sep 25 07 04:29 pm Link

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S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

underexpose the background and then pop some fill at the subject...

Sep 25 07 04:30 pm Link

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Reedphoto

Posts: 557

St Catharines, Ontario, Canada

best done around sunset time
turn off flash and aim it at the sky...then hold shutter halfway to take an exposure reading from the sky, and while still holding the shutter down half way recompose the shot by aiming at your subjuect, but turn the flash on and reveal your subject with the light of the flash...this will give fill flash to your subject and still give a nice sky in the background
you can also use the exposure lock instead of holding the shutter the whole time

works like a charm....good luck

Sep 25 07 04:30 pm Link

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S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

like this:
https://img9.modelmayhem.com/070910/17/46e5c31c3fd72_m.jpg

Sep 25 07 04:30 pm Link

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bryyuhnsswsw

Posts: 4

Sep 25 07 04:31 pm Link

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Richard Haick

Posts: 357

Richmond, California, US

The way I dod this type of stuff is bascially to set your exposure for the background, usually 2 or so stops down, then use the flash on the subject. Depending on the time of day and available light and maybe some trial and error, you'll get the shot right. I'm still toying with it, but the look is cool. Try it with some HDR processing and it really pops. It's totally the "in" thing.

Sep 25 07 04:33 pm Link

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Rick Hughes Photography

Posts: 530

Atlanta, Georgia, US

There are several ways to achieve a similar effect.  You can get a less dramatic effect with multiple exposures.  The main subject will not "pop" as much unless you are using a strobe.

I use a Hensel Porty Kit when I am going for that look.  Here is an example of my version of it.
https://www.rickhughes.com/web2.jpg

You just need to (as said) have a light source more powerful than the sun.  That sounds crazy, but it really isn't all that crazy.  There are many options.  The more powerful the better.

Here are a few more examples from my work of the same effect

https://www.rickhughes.com/0626.jpg

https://www.rickhughes.com/0817.jpg

https://www.rickhughes.com/0857.jpg

Sep 25 07 04:34 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Richard Haick wrote:
The way I dod this type of stuff is bascially to set your exposure for the background, usually 2 or so stops down, then use the flash on the subject. Depending on the time of day and available light and maybe some trial and error, you'll get the shot right. I'm still toying with it, but the look is cool. Try it with some HDR processing and it really pops. It's totally the "in" thing.

Currently a topic on strobist -
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/09/li … light.html
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/09/li … shsun.html

Discussion -
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/d … 849513037/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/d … 974723398/

Sep 25 07 04:37 pm Link

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Special Ed

Posts: 3545

New York, New York, US

A good strong strobe and a polarizer would do it...


Kinda like this....

http://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/pho … 9696a27182

Sep 25 07 04:45 pm Link

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Special Ed

Posts: 3545

New York, New York, US

Grrrr...I hate the lack of an edit button

Sep 25 07 04:49 pm Link

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Reedphoto

Posts: 557

St Catharines, Ontario, Canada

seriously  just write this down and try it as the sun is going down this evening

best done around sunset time
turn off flash and aim it at the sky...then hold shutter halfway to take an exposure reading from the sky, and while still holding the shutter down half way recompose the shot by aiming at your subjuect, but turn the flash on and reveal your subject with the light of the flash...this will give fill flash to your subject and still give a nice sky in the background
you can also use the exposure lock instead of holding the shutter the whole time

works like a charm....good luck

Sep 25 07 04:51 pm Link

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justicephotographs

Posts: 980

Miami, Florida, US

speed light. s100 f10

https://img9.modelmayhem.com/070705/16/468d667f09bb0_m.jpg

Sep 25 07 04:51 pm Link

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DMHolman

Posts: 1867

Lynnwood, Washington, US

It's not that the photogs have set the range of the flash for only 5-6 feet it's that the flash range is limited because of the extreme difference in the brightness of sky versus everything else. 

For example, in the first two, in order to properly expose the relatively bright sky, they probably would have brought the shutter-speed up to the fastest the camera could sync and then stopped down the lens.  Without flash, this would cause the rest of the background and the subject to be severely underexposed (just silhouettes).  The strobe was then used to properly expose the model.  While the strobe was bright enough to light her, because of the shutter-speed and aperture, the light falls off very quickly.

This is something I'm still learning myself.  And it's not something you have to wait until dawn or dusk to try out as some are suggesting unless you have a weak strobe.  The different effects of shadow and light are caused by varying the ratio between background and strobe light.

A few examples of me trying to figure it all out .. not there yet, but getting there.  These were all taken around the same time of day (1pm-4pm) with sunny/partly sunny skies:

https://www.dmholman.com/wi/GWP_5-3-07_105.jpg

https://www.dmholman.com/wi/2007BBB_0994.jpg

https://www.dmholman.com/wi/2007BBB_0843.jpg

https://www.dmholman.com/wi/Revel_JG_105.jpg

-=>Donald

Sep 25 07 05:25 pm Link

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Alex Yang Photography

Posts: 601

Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

iamshaun wrote:
Kind of curious how this effect is acheived..

What I'm guessing is some sort of nice flash or strobe is used, with a low shudder speed.. and the flash is set to only have a range of 5-6 feet.. to get the model while allowing the background to stay dark. These were shot in broad daylight, very sunny.. btw.

Any thoughts? I'm really curious how this effect is achieved. I recently bought a Canon 580 speedlite in hopes of being able to capture neat effects like this.

All you have to do is read on Jacob's site to see what he did. He explains it on there! I love his work! smile

Sep 25 07 05:37 pm Link

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iamshaun

Posts: 34

Arlington, Texas, US

Wow! Thanks for all the responses! I'll be trying out these tips. And thanks for the links.

//sm

Sep 25 07 06:17 pm Link