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Cat Brooke
Posts: 3
Brooklyn, New York, US
I'm 17 and my parents don't want me to do any pinup-type modeling because they think I'm too young and the photographers involved in those fields are all perverts. Is it just me or are they being rediculous and over protective?
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StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
lol dosn't matter what anyone else thinks, if your parents say no, it's a no. They can sue you know. lol Side note: there are perverts in all feilds of photography. 
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Benjamin Lambert
Posts: 1734
Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, US
they're being parents. they're supposted to look out for your interests, not let you do age-inappropriate things. you've got the rest of your life to do the sex / sexy sells thing. don't rush it.
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Tim Little Photography
Posts: 11771
Wilmington, Delaware, US
Most respectable photographers are not going to shoot anything with you unless one of your parents are at the shoot. Most respectable photographers will avoid shooting anything that isn't age appropriate because a misunderstanding can destroy everything they have worked for. Waiting until your 18 is worth it.
Also, unless you parents sign off on the model release the photographer cannot do anything with the pictures.
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Fotosbymike
Posts: 797
Sarasota, Florida, US
You have no idea how lucky you are to have parents that actually take an interest in your life and care about your safety. Wait another year to decide, you'll be glad you did.
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tigerfist photography
Posts: 2100
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
where do these people COME from?!
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Overall Photoworks
Posts: 16
Knoxville, Tennessee, US
Listen to your parents, they most def know whats best. Just like the other photographer said - wait another year, then decide - you'll be glad you did.
And btw- LOVE your port! Hope you go far!
Ciao Ciaos!
Chet
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SunArcher Photography
Posts: 7669
Washington, District of Columbia, US
This is SO not going to end well. Hell, it's barely STARTED well...
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Shannon_Nicole
Posts: 1260
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
you should be happy if your parents let you model AT ALL.
some parents don't. and it's their right as parents to decide that.
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HOTTIE SHOTS
Posts: 6018
Memphis, Tennessee, US
I looked at your port. There is not a good professional shot in it. You are very pretty and I am sure you can get some photographers who will shoot you some age appropriate material.
Having a casting call at 17 for edgy shots is not going to bring any responsible photographer to shoot it when your parents will not sign for you and go to the shoot.
18 will come soon enough. Work on practicing you poses and expressions and shooting until it does.
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Eric Simard
Posts: 1083
Penticton, British Columbia, Canada
Chet Overall wrote:
Listen to your parents, they most def know whats best.
Chet my parents didn't know what was best. shit!
Model
Brandi Runnels
Posts: 792
Dallas, Texas, US
You wont be able to shoot without your parents consent until your 18, and if they say no...thats all she wrote. Why not build up your port with the work that you can right now, then when you're 18 you can call the shots.
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BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Cat Brooke wrote:
I'm 17 and my parents don't want me to do any pinup-type modeling because they think I'm too young Right or wrong, that's their decision to make ...
Cat Brooke wrote:
and the photographers involved in those fields are all perverts. ... even if they are horribly misinformed.
Cat Brooke wrote:
Is it just me or are they being rediculous and over protective? Yes, they probably are, but that's their prerogative.
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Cafe Society
Posts: 338
Houston, Texas, US
Girl, you're 17. Do something that promotes your YOUTH! People would be envious of it! I know sometimes I still wish I were a teen 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36332
San Francisco, California, US
Go clean your room little girl.
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Ashley Graham
Posts: 26822
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Most photogs won't shoot lingerie or implied or anything that has a chance to cross the line with you until you are of age. Be glad your parents care and keep a hold of your innocence and such, I lost mine far too young and regret that. You are almost 18 then you can do as you please and trust me with more freedom comes more responsibility
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BTHPhoto
Posts: 6985
Fairbanks, Alaska, US
Cafe Society wrote:
Girl, you're 17. Do something that promotes your YOUTH! People would be envious of it! I know sometimes I still wish I were a teen Yeah, but did you feel that way when you were 17?
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Bill Mason Photography
Posts: 1856
Morristown, Vermont, US
This is going to sound harsh...your port so far contains provocative images...the makeup and cleavage have a rather wild look to them. Maybe the problem is that your parents don't trust YOU. It may be easier for them to crap on the photographers than it is to confront you on your choices.
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olivan
Posts: 3
Washington, Arkansas, US
Ditto on being glad your parents let you model at all. Be thankful. Build a good solid age appropriate port and you will do much better in the industry. You are a beautiful girl, you should go very far but be smart:)
best of luck,
joyelena
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OLJ studio
Posts: 1550
Winnetka, California, US
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Jake Garn
Posts: 3958
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Nope, your parents are absolutely right and are doing their job quite nicely. Go tell them you're sorry! Not all photographers are perverts but when you're under 18 it's better safe than sorry.
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Evan Shorrock
Posts: 780
Silver Spring, Maryland, US
if you don't listen to any of the other advice feel free to wait a year and find out for yourself.
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art davis photography
Posts: 134
Palm Springs, California, US
unfortunately in this nation, society is governed by obsolete rules on sex and age while at the same time allowing the media to bombard everyone with the opposite! it is ridiculous. most parents are in "control" mode and feed on the conservative, religious ferver on the subject. talk to your congressman! yeah right... in the mean time...the pros above are correct unless you can find a partner in crime or somehow make your photos completely devoid of any "lascivious" conduct. (look up the word, you will need to understand the definition of the law i am a single father of 3 teen young men and i recommend talking in a civil way with your parents, help them recognize that it would be better to work together on the concept instead of trying to be control freaks and welcome them to any potential shoot you might do. otherwise...at most...you only have one more year. put it out of your mind and it will go by fast. and in the meantime practice with normal clothing )
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Madcrow Photographics
Posts: 7805
Boston, Massachusetts, US
I think that you are too young for lingerie. As for the other two, it really depends on what you mean. If you mean: stand around in a bikini looking mildly-but-not-too sexy, then you're probably fine IN THE ABSTRACT. Nevertheless, given the way the world works, if your parents say no, that means no. If you do otherwise, not only could you get into trouble, but you could get other people into trouble as well.
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TRPn Pics
Posts: 10435
Silver Springs Shores, Florida, US
Cat Brooke wrote:
I'm 17 and my parents don't want me to do any pinup-type modeling because they think I'm too young and the photographers involved in those fields are all perverts. Is it just me or are they being rediculous and over protective? Honestly, you need some simple casual and fashion shots by a professional in your portfolio. The camera phone shots are not gonna take you very far.
As far as the pinup style and "the photographers involved in those fields", your parents may be being just a tad naive about the industry as it's likely that most of the photographers you run across will have the ability to shoot pinup as well as just about every other genre of photography and do so on a regular basis, so good luck finding one that hasn't shot pinup or hasn't wanted to. Saying all that, when you turn 18 if your still in this game, I'm certain you will get all the pinup offers you want as well as other opportunities that some including your parents may find distasteful for whatever reason. Keep in mind though as has already been stated that your parents are for the most part looking out for your best interest and maybe you should consider why they do so.
On the other hand I recommend that you find a photographer in your area that has a decent book and or profile and has good recommendations and see if he/she is willing to help you out with a test or two of age appropriate images for your profile here and to start your portfolio off with some great shots. Don't concern yourself with what any specific photographer has shot or shoots normally, thats really not your concern. What you want are shots that will help you get a good start and if a photographer has some good work, even if it is pinup or playboy style, he/she certainly has the ability to shoot casual and fashion images. Weather they are willing to or not may be a different story.
One other thing, you may want to do some research on how many 5'4" models walk major runways before you go considering fashion modeling as your dream and or goal.
My .02
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Kymberly Jane
Posts: 2251
Los Angeles, California, US
DONT do it~
wait tiLL your of legal age..
REALLY..... Dont..
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art davis photography
Posts: 134
Palm Springs, California, US
"One other thing, you may want to do some research on how many 5'4" models walk major runways before you go considering fashion modeling as your dream and or goal."
when did "runway" enter the conversation?
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Taboo Motel
Posts: 195
Kansas City, Missouri, US
TeddyRay wrote:
Honestly, you need some simple casual and fashion shots by a professional in your portfolio. The camera phone shots are not gonna take you very far.
As far as the pinup style and "the photographers involved in those fields", your parents may be being just a tad naive about the industry as it's likely that most of the photographers you run across will have the ability to shoot pinup as well as just about every other genre of photography and do so on a regular basis, so good luck finding one that hasn't shot pinup or hasn't wanted to. Saying all that, when you turn 18 if your still in this game, I'm certain you will get all the pinup offers you want as well as other opportunities that some including your parents may find distasteful for whatever reason. Keep in mind though as has already been stated that your parents are for the most part looking out for your best interest and maybe you should consider why they do so.
On the other hand I recommend that you find a photographer in your area that has a decent book and or profile and has good recommendations and see if he/she is willing to help you out with a test or two of age appropriate images for your profile here and to start your portfolio off with some great shots. Don't concern yourself with what any specific photographer has shot or shoots normally, thats really not your concern. What you want are shots that will help you get a good start and if a photographer has some good work, even if it is pinup or playboy style, he/she certainly has the ability to shoot casual and fashion images. Weather they are willing to or not may be a different story.
One other thing, you may want to do some research on how many 5'4" models walk major runways before you go considering fashion modeling as your dream and or goal.
My .02 Good advise here...^
A link to one of your 17yo peers portfolio...I'm sure if there were anything illegal posted MM would not allow it...all the naysayers in this thread are over reacting.
https://modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=520275
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Escalante
Posts: 5367
Chicago, Illinois, US
SoloShado wrote:
Good advise here...^
A link to one of your 17yo peers portfolio...I'm sure if there were anything illegal posted MM would not allow it...all the naysayers here are over reacting.
https://modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=520275 Different country, different LAWS different attitude , AND different Set of Parents
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Taboo Motel
Posts: 195
Kansas City, Missouri, US
ESCALANTE wrote:
Different country, different LAWS different attitude , AND different Set of Parents I agree to all of your points...still...nothing illegal posted in that portfolio...all the images are legal here in the US....
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Erika Tschirhart
Posts: 576
San Francisco, California, US
It is a MUST that your parent(s) consent with what you're doing.. they're not being ridiculous, necessarily.. it's what they want and feel comfortable with. And if that's what they want, just wait until you're 18. (17 is close enough.. I don't know why people don't understand this.. lol I remember being 16 like it was yesterday.. and it was horrible.) Do as much PG modeling as possible.. lol.. it's safer that way anyhow.. the photographer could get ridiculed. Also, being as young as you are, you shouldn't jump into that type of modeling right away. It's just.. a bad idea. Believe me.
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Lumigraphics
Posts: 32780
Detroit, Michigan, US
Cat Brooke wrote:
I'm 17 and my parents don't want me to do any pinup-type modeling because they think I'm too young and the photographers involved in those fields are all perverts. Is it just me or are they being rediculous and over protective? They are right for being concerned, for being involved, and for putting limits on your activities. They are stereotyping fucking idiots for thinking that every glamour/pinup photographer is a pervert.
Edit- this gives you a year to show them how decent and responsible you and photographers in your area can be. Build a relationship with a few and then, when you trust them and are an adult, you can shoot more racy stuff.
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art davis photography
Posts: 134
Palm Springs, California, US
SoloShado wrote:
I agree to all of your points...still...nothing illegal posted in that portfolio...all the images are legal here in the US.... actualy if someone wanted to push it legally in this nation this would definitely not make it. it is definitely lascivious!
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Jefferson Dorsey
Posts: 648
Nashville, Tennessee, US
StacyJack wrote:
Side note: there are perverts in all feilds of photography. Jake Garn wrote:
Not all photographers are perverts... Not all, but most?
(I get so sick of this shit. I wonder how any models even survive in this industry, since it's populated by so many perverts and murderers)
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Cre8ive
Posts: 1075
Los Angeles, California, US
art davis photography wrote:
actualy if someone wanted to push it legally in this nation this would definitely not make it. it is definitely lascivious! You are saying that the stuff in Val's port is not legal? and why is Val's port being used? There is nothing in her port that is even close to being inappropreate or borderline smut. The OP needs to pass on pin/up stuff and like Jerry Coleman wrote needs to work on some basic stuff and start building a port first.
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BlackWatch
Posts: 3825
Cleveland, Ohio, US
Caring parents rule!
Side note: We would not shoot pinup with a 17 year old...
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StacyJack
Posts: 2297
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Jefferson Dorsey wrote:
StacyJack wrote:
Side note: there are perverts in all feilds of photography. Not all, but most?
(I get so sick of this shit. I wonder how any models even survive in this industry, since it's populated by so many perverts and murderers) chill.
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Taboo Motel
Posts: 195
Kansas City, Missouri, US
StacyJack wrote:
Jefferson Dorsey wrote:
StacyJack wrote:
Side note: there are perverts in all feilds of photography. Not all, but most?
(I get so sick of this shit. I wonder how any models even survive in this industry, since it's populated by so many perverts and murderers) chill. StacyJack wrote:
chill. hey, maybe her doctor is a pervert...or the cop that comes to her house when she calls...or the Attorney General of Calif...or, holy ministers Batman....her preacher....give us a break ya'll, sure would be nice to create some beautiful work without all the freaks on both sides of this BS...
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art davis photography
Posts: 134
Palm Springs, California, US
Cre8ive wrote:
You are saying that the stuff in Val's port is not legal? and why is Val's port being used? There is nothing in her port that is even close to being inappropreate or borderline smut. The OP needs to pass on pin/up stuff and like Jerry Coleman wrote needs to work on some basic stuff and start building a port first. it isnt smut! but do you think that OP could shoot those same shots in the US? her parents would quickly take it to a nice religious judge and he would quickly lock the photographer up! and the male model posing with her ready for a hot kiss?..and then quickly get it on FOX news for the AM news headlines!
only reason im continuing on this, is that this is a perfect example of how ridiculous the laws in this nation are when it comes to age appropriateness. we are not a free nation! this nation is dominated and controlled by a certain type of christian who is focused on interpreting "god's" rules on their own. in peru they are dominated by christianity but they know their god will do the judging...
age appropriateness should be judged on an individual basis. there is no real line in time and experience...or desire.
on the other hand...
we, the "wise"..."adults" should approach the guidence of our children in their youth in terms of real guidence instead of just "black and white" rules! probably the biggest issue here in the long term is our concern for OP's health and safety! she will have to learn the ways of caution in this field. and often parents are even more clueless than the models. i see a lot of "mothering" comments from models here but instead of just saying "dont do it" what about offering more advice on how to recognize a potentially dangerous situation. like... when someone comes up to her and offers her lots of money to ....
happy new year everyone!
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Cre8ive
Posts: 1075
Los Angeles, California, US
art davis photography wrote:
it isnt smut! but do you think that OP could shoot those same shots in the US? her parents would quickly take it to a nice religious judge and he would quickly lock the photographer up! and the male model posing with her ready for a hot kiss?..and then quickly get it on FOX news for the AM news headlines!
only reason im continuing on this, is that this is a perfect example of how ridiculous the laws in this nation are when it comes to age appropriateness. we are not a free nation! this nation is dominated and controlled by a certain type of christian who is focused on interpreting "god's" rules on their own. in peru they are dominated by christianity but they know their god will do the judging...
age appropriateness should be judged on an individual basis. there is no real line in time and experience...or desire.
on the other hand...
we, the "wise"..."adults" should approach the guidence of our children in their youth in terms of real guidence instead of just "black and white" rules! probably the biggest issue here in the long term is our concern for OP's health and safety! she will have to learn the ways of caution in this field. and often parents are even more clueless than the models. i see a lot of "mothering" comments from models here but instead of just saying "dont do it" what about offering more advice on how to recognize a potentially dangerous situation. like... when someone comes up to her and offers her lots of money to ....
happy new year everyone! Stuff like whats in Val's port is shot all the time in the US... There is NO WAY any judge would even look at this because the law inforcement wouldn't even take a second look. I complete have to say either you are wrong, or just wound up to tight...
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