Forums > Photography Talk > Flash frying camera - actuall experience vs rumor

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 7026

Eugene, Oregon, US

I persoanlly have sold over $1,000,000 worth of studio strobes as well as on camera.

I have never seen a camera fried by a flash - this was before digital.

I have posted on other forums about this issue - only one person and it was a OM-10 in all the years I posted this question.

I am a Nikon and Leica person and Leica is very clear how safe their units are.

Nikon states their hot shoes are good to 250 volts.

I have been told (by Leica rep - do not use both PC and hotshoe at same time except on out M4-p

www.botzilla.com has a section for trigger voltage and how to test.

So has anyone actually had a camera fried --  not rumored --

How about the several camera store owners here.

PS the only unit consistently mentioned is some very early Japanesse Vivatar 283's made by National. ( sold a lot of these and never saw a problem - just rumors)

Thanks for your patience.

Jan 07 08 07:58 pm Link

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Cre8ive

Posts: 1075

Los Angeles, California, US

Lorin Edmonds wrote:
I persoanlly have sold over $1,000,000 worth of studio strobes as well as on camera.

I have never seen a camera fried by a flash - this was before digital.

I have posted on other forums about this issue - only one person and it was a OM-10 in all the years I posted this question.

I am a Nikon and Leica person and Leica is very clear how safe their units are.

Nikon states their hot shoes are good to 250 volts.

I have been told (by Leica rep - do not use both PC and hotshoe at same time except on out M4-p

www.botzilla.com has a section for trigger voltage and how to test.

So has anyone actually had a camera fried --  not rumored --

How about the several camera store owners here.

PS the only unit consistently mentioned is some very early Japanesse Vivatar 283's made by National. ( sold a lot of these and never saw a problem - just rumors)

Thanks for your patience.

I've had a Canon D20, and a Fuji that was "fried" by my Speedo Blacklines. In the case of the Canon it actually isn't fried it just causes the PCM to trip and it can only be reset by a Canon repair shop. Since then I use a circut breaker hot shoe/sync adapture... 14.95 at Harry's Camera in Studio City. I have about 7 or 8 of them at this point and even though it's only happened the two times I allways use them now... Better to have a condom and never need it then need it and don't have one...

Brick
Cre8ive
HWooD,Cali

Jan 07 08 08:06 pm Link

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isuckatphotography

Posts: 2834

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

i have 2 vivitar 283,s and 1 285 .    i had a friend put the 283 on his pentax digital ist , and it fried it.    i also put the same 283 on a newer pentax autofocus 35mm at one time and it fried it.       the one 283 i have was purchased brand new at the same time as a konica T3 .

Jan 07 08 08:20 pm Link

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Adagio by J Pate-Terry

Posts: 71

Butte, Montana, US

The company I used to work for had several Canon Elan 7s fried and we're pretty sure it was the strobes.  We started using safesyncs and pocketwizards and haven't had a problem since.

Jan 07 08 08:24 pm Link

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isuckatphotography

Posts: 2834

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

duh , i always use nickel metel hydride batteries.  also that 283 i have , when i put it on my pentax k1000  it just strobes.  it goes off over and over again until you take it back off.  it works fine on my canon eos a2 , f1 and ftb.    also my other 283 and 285 work fine on my pentax k1000.

Jan 07 08 08:25 pm Link

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Studio Tyler

Posts: 183

Tyler, Texas, US

I have read lots of horror stories and decided that I have paid way too much for my equipment to even chance it.  SO...I either use safesyncs or radio slaves and not take the chance.  From what I have heard/read, most of the time, the contact erode/deteriorate over time until it just doesn't work anymore.  I am sure there are some examples out there or a camera going out in a blaze of glory, too.  I have used my Speedotrons with a 300D and a 5D without a problem.

Jan 07 08 08:34 pm Link

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Patrickth

Posts: 10321

Bellingham, Washington, US

Lorin Edmonds wrote:
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I was just on the phone for an hour with a Norman repair guy and he said that it could happen using older strobes with digital cameras and he sells a product called safe synch.  Have not looked it up as I don't use digital.

He has been in business for 36 years and says it does happen but not as often as rumor implies.
Oops, just found it
http://www.weinproducts.com/safesyncs.htm

Jan 07 08 08:44 pm Link

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 7026

Eugene, Oregon, US

Do a search for Safe synchs not working.

Lots of posts on WWW.Nikonians.org about that.


and Norman is a brand I used to sell and not trust.

Jan 07 08 09:18 pm Link

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PhotoDancer

Posts: 2483

The setup - Sony DSC-F828, a "Made in Germany" hot shoe to PC adaptor (brand escapes me) into a Norman power pack, a larger high power one. Did one shoot with it and everything was fine. I was never again able to get the Sony to fire the strobes, used the working backup cord and working backup adaptor - zilch. Pop up flash still works, the shoe does not fire an attachable flash unit either.

None of this matters any more, just adding to your survey.

Jan 07 08 11:02 pm Link

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KevinMichaelReed

Posts: 1554

New York, New York, US

Some older strobe packs allowed a "Backfire" (that's not the right word, but I can't think of it right now) into the camera through the sync cord and would fry the camera.  OLD, OLD, OLD speedos from the 70's were known for this.  Now they are regulated at an acceptable 6 volt.  But a safe way to never have to worry about it is to pick up some pocket wizards - I rather fry a pocket wizard than a camera.

KMR

Jan 07 08 11:04 pm Link

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FKVPhotography

Posts: 30064

Ocala, Florida, US

I've use Vivitar 283 on my digital canons with no harmful effects. Studio strobes I use a wireless trigger so no problem there at all.

Jan 08 08 10:01 am Link

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PunkHeart

Posts: 157

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

I used a hotshoe adapter on my nikon 70 and my blackline speedo's fried something in it....not like I hadn't been warned a hundred times!

Jan 08 08 10:07 am Link

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Photos by Lorrin

Posts: 7026

Eugene, Oregon, US

Interesting

More than I thought   sorry about the frying

Jan 08 08 03:55 pm Link