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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

So, I love DIY lighting. I love hacking cameras as well.

With the constant stream of new photographers on  MM with a shoestring budget, I thought it would be cool if there was a thread showing it's not ALL about how much money you spend..things can be improvised!

If you don't like DIY stuff, please don't post here telling DIY enthusiasts how they are stupid for not spending money on the latest gadget..just move on!

So, here's my latest completed project. It's a 2nd generation..the first had some bugs that this model addresses.  (you can find it by searching homemade light modifiers)

Home made DIY Ringflash


start with a few metal bowls, some plumber's putty (or JB Weld, epoxy..whatever is strong..)

If you follow these instructions, wear goggles and ear protection. This is for informational purposes only and I'll not be responsible if your scrotum gets caught in a belt sander or any other injury you sustain. Use common sense. Be safe.

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2236622019_3539782162.jpg?v=0

All below was accomplished with a dremel and cutoff tool. A Rotozip is easier, but it wasn't here, so...

cut the first bowl ( about a 19" one..) to just under the width of the medium bowl, like so...

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2140/2236622209_0c7e0188e2.jpg?v=0

The medium sized bowl should accomodate the body of your camera a bit ( a problem with my last attempt) like this:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2218/2237412860_0685f0111e.jpg?v=0

cut the second bowl to accomodate a lens.. a bit bigger is better...

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2311/2237413244_809c0a05c4.jpg?v=0

invert the third (smallest) bowl and cut a similar sized hole as you did in the medium ( 2nd) bowl:
when you're done, it might look like this:
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2237413364_925c406fd2.jpg?v=0

Three bowls, all useless for mixing now. Still here? Cool.. Moving on...

affix ( epoxy, plumber's putty, etc) the  medium and small bowls with the bottoms of the bowls inverted, like this:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2403/2237414150_b95e260c4d.jpg?v=0

I like plumbers putty for a few reasons: It dries hard enough to sand, it's not messy, it's hand pliable to work with easily..and it fills in gaps/ covers sharp exposed areas nicely.

Now, place the sutup into the hole of the Large bowl with the rim of the Medium bowl up. It might look like this, assuming you cut the hole in the larger bowl a bit SMALLER than the rim of the medium bowl..(remember?):

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2359/2237412656_c5093409c0.jpg?v=0

Does it fit? need to trim a bit? Go ahead, I'll wait...

Ok. Done? Affix the medium bowl to the larger bowl with your chosen adhesive. put it upside down  while it cures to apply pressure...Go inside and play curveball while you wait...

Later,

Does it look like this?:


https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/2236622573_8477442400.jpg?v=0


Cool! let's keep going...

Trace the edge of whatever flashlights you're using onto the outside of the large bowl. Take care if you're using 2 or 3 lights to space them evenly around the bowl...

Cut it. try to fit the flash in.. if its snug, thats cool.. a bit loose? Hot glue or soft velcro tabs (add after painting!) should fix that.

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2236623511_8c85e0ce0c.jpg?v=0

Sand anything you want smoothed out if you'd like... once everything is cured.


I added a handle (old table leg) with a wingnut and washers.. drilled out and enbedded/epoxied a nut to fit a quckplate for an older tripod head I rarely use..

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2236621919_acd01d579c.jpg?v=0

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2269/2237412368_025cbd43a9.jpg?v=0
(yeah, it's off center..sue me)


attached to the large bowl. it works well enough.


Paint it. I like satin black. Remember to paint the interior of the smallest bowl as well to minimize flare and any vignetting when using a wide lens (problem #2 with my old design,..sigh)

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2336/2237413972_4c43c9d250.jpg?v=0


https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2261/2236623141_d7a2456384.jpg?v=0

see my little old cruddy flashes peeking out? Hi ;-)

The mirror finish of the chrome throws a nice ring..WAyyyyyy better than aluminum foil ( problem ## with the first attempt)


attach the flash(es). I used hot glue, after putting soft side velcro around the sharp edges.

You could make velcro straps and make it a temporary rig if you like..up to you.

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2319/2237413720_5005ed9bd1.jpg?v=0


I spliced 2 pc wires together and attached them to a Wein hotshoe safesync.

Anywho..that light is bright and direct. Let's soften it a bit..

I used 216 Rosco diffusion. You could use that, or cut up a thin old cutting board, bleached muslin, a vinyl shower curtain..

fixed with 3M spray adhesive that I sprayed into the cap and brushed onto edges. I then cut off the unnecessary bits.

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2214/2237413466_b7f3bf3785.jpg?v=0


Done.


But how does it work?


Ben, at about 8 feet. 1/320 sec @ (I think) f 8.0




https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2236657835_2755dd5ae1.jpg?v=0


I like the halo effect, but I think I'll likely find some cheap flashes to add top/bottom to the ringlight to really punch it. the halo at the top is a bit too soft for me.


Final cost was about 45 bucks. 20 for the bowls, 17 for the paint, putty, etc... and the flashes came in a box of crap from a yard sale.

Total time about 2 hours, not counting curing/ paint drying time.



So there it is. Enjoy.

Please feel free to post your camera /lighting DIY projects here!

Feb 02 08 03:52 pm Link

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Dennis Tortora

Posts: 311

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Excellent Post, amazing work, and thought process.   Well told and illustrated.  A positive and informative post......what do I do..LOL     


thanks again, for your time and expertise, nice work.

Feb 02 08 03:56 pm Link

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Hecates_illusion

Posts: 281

Columbus, Ohio, US

That is really amazing. Thanks for sharing!

Feb 02 08 03:56 pm Link

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IBX Pete

Posts: 1347

Rockingham, North Carolina, US

You keep thinking there Butch, that's what you're good at.*
:-)
Honestly, good job. I am not sure I will try it, but you put a lot of effort into it.


*it's a line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Feb 02 08 03:58 pm Link

Photographer

slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

IBX Pete wrote:
You keep thinking there Butch, that's what you're good at.*
:-)
Honestly, good job. I am not sure I will try it, but you put a lot of effort into it.


*it's a line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

Not that much effort..I do stuff like this at work, so it was more fun than effort..


My favorite quote from Butch Cassidy:

"Australia. I thought you secretly wanted to know, so I told ya."

Feb 02 08 04:13 pm Link

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LeWhite

Posts: 2038

Los Angeles, California, US

The wise man sees the world as it is, and is wise enough not to alter it. The un wise man sees the world and attemps to make it conform to his needs. Therefore all human advancements are due to the unwise man. Kudos

Feb 02 08 04:17 pm Link

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Springbok Designs

Posts: 873

Santa Cruz, California, US

I made a waterproof housing for an SB-600 and Pocket Wizard for some wakeboarding shots. It was featured here -

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/07/aw … using.html

Feb 02 08 04:25 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

LeWhite wrote:
The wise man sees the world as it is, and is wise enough not to alter it. The un wise man sees the world and attemps to make it conform to his needs. Therefore all human advancements are due to the unwise man. Kudos

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. "
George Bernard Shaw



Other Unreasonable Men / DIY threads:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/p.php?thread_id=140207 - portable power

search (in old decent search)

homemade light modifiers

homemade ringflash

ghetto light stand (awesome idea!)

Feb 02 08 04:26 pm Link

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IBX Pete

Posts: 1347

Rockingham, North Carolina, US

slave to the lens wrote:

Not that much effort..I do stuff like this at work, so it was more fun than effort..


My favorite quote from Butch Cassidy:

"Australia. I thought you secretly wanted to know, so I told ya."

I'm also fond of "WHO ARE THOSE GUYS???"
But that has nothing to do with your project.
Good job.
Keep up the good work.

Feb 02 08 04:40 pm Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Don't overlook the DIY section of the Lighting, Flash, Ring, & Battery Strobe Reference thread for a list of lighting-specific DIY projects.

Feb 02 08 05:39 pm Link

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Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

You did a great job explaining each of the steps! I'm not very handy with tools but I think I'm gonna give it a try. I've got some old Vivitar 285's laying around and this looks like a good use for them!

Feb 02 08 05:54 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

Tim Little Photography wrote:
You did a great job explaining each of the steps! I'm not very handy with tools but I think I'm gonna give it a try. I've got some old Vivitar 285's laying around and this looks like a good use for them!

Dremels are about 50 for the cheapest one and I've used an ancient one for a dozen years.

good luck with it! The 285 puts these to shame, so I'm sure it will rock. I may be wrong, but there is an outer edge ( lip) around the flash on the 285..perhaps make it flush to the bowl and affix with velcro, otherwise if you make a hole large enough to fit it, it may flop around after the  outer lip clears...

Feb 02 08 06:21 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

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slave to the lens

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Feb 02 08 09:51 pm Link

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Katie Moore

Posts: 459

Woodstock, Ontario, Canada

My favorite and the prettiest DIY ringflash I've seen so far.

Feb 02 08 10:36 pm Link

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Mr Banner

Posts: 85322

Hayward, California, US

nice.

Feb 02 08 10:41 pm Link

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KevinMichaelReed

Posts: 1554

New York, New York, US

I'm not really a DIY guy when it comes to my lighting, other than rigging gear to make an effect.. BUT.  I'm really going to have to try this one....  I wonder if it's possible to rig something to use a Profoto tube in it, rather than the speedlites.

KMR

Feb 03 08 01:35 am Link

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mw image

Posts: 812

Central, Alaska, US

KevinMichaelReed wrote:
I'm not really a DIY guy when it comes to my lighting, other than rigging gear to make an effect.. BUT.  I'm really going to have to try this one....  I wonder if it's possible to rig something to use a Profoto tube in it, rather than the speedlites.

KMR

Yes... step 1.  Purchase a profoto ringflash and disassemble it......

j/k... in all seriousness, great post for sure even guys like me who cant figure out how to change our own oil could follow that.

Feb 03 08 02:22 am Link

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Jamie-JAYCE-Charles

Posts: 2207

Hollywood, Florida, US

nice work

Feb 03 08 02:28 am Link

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Eric Cain

Posts: 729

Detroit, Michigan, US

slave to the lens wrote:

Dremels are about 50 for the cheapest one and I've used an ancient one for a dozen years.

good luck with it! The 285 puts these to shame, so I'm sure it will rock. I may be wrong, but there is an outer edge ( lip) around the flash on the 285..perhaps make it flush to the bowl and affix with velcro, otherwise if you make a hole large enough to fit it, it may flop around after the  outer lip clears...

Its very easy to pry off the zoom head on the 285's, so that won't be a problem

Feb 03 08 02:42 am Link

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KevinMichaelReed

Posts: 1554

New York, New York, US

mw image wrote:

Yes... step 1.  Purchase a profoto ringflash and disassemble it......

j/k... in all seriousness, great post for sure even guys like me who cant figure out how to change our own oil could follow that.

Now that would defeat the purpose, huh?  :-)

Just the flash tube.  Not the whole thing.

Feb 03 08 03:43 am Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

cough

Feb 03 08 04:17 pm Link

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Ixlagor

Posts: 68

London, England, United Kingdom

Awesome idea, I made one from Polystyrene a few years ago but it fell apart after about 6 months.

Must make one of these, and soon.

Feb 03 08 04:18 pm Link

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Eduardo Frances

Posts: 3227

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Not done by me but really something to share in the DIY land, kudos to zenmasterfrommars on flickr for this proyect:

Attaching a chinese made beauty dish -bowens compatible- to a speedlight with gary fong stuff http://www.flickr.com/photos/7910075@N03/2196330635/ -I would add an L bracket that connects the beautydish to the lightstand to relief the weight from the head of the strobe.

Feb 03 08 04:26 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

Eduardo Frances wrote:
Not done by me but really something to share in the DIY land, kudos to zenmasterfrommars on flickr for this proyect:

Attaching a chinese made beauty dish -bowens compatible- to a speedlight with gary fong stuff http://www.flickr.com/photos/7910075@N03/2196330635/ -I would add an L bracket that connects the beautydish to the lightstand to relief the weight from the head of the strobe.

That's cool!


Homemade beauty dish from a hanging alley lamp:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/2121293494_a207e0dc31.jpg?v=0

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2120516743_baeb2fdddf.jpg?v=0

Feb 03 08 05:17 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

scoop/ background lights cut from acrylic ceiling light globes:


https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2121293074_a9559164b0.jpg?v=0


PERFECT fit for ABs..no ring required..


As are these Trader Joe's Coffe can snoots:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2003/2120516539_8916c74613.jpg?v=0

Feb 03 08 05:20 pm Link

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Trisha Bowyer

Posts: 1311

Martinsburg, West Virginia, US

ingenious!

Feb 03 08 06:45 pm Link

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slave to the lens

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Woodland Hills, California, US

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Feb 04 08 12:52 pm Link

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slave to the lens

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Woodland Hills, California, US

Sh pow

Feb 04 08 11:03 pm Link

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epo

Posts: 6196

Columbus, Ohio, US

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2076/2242213328_0734be02a6.jpg
First test shot from my little DIY ringflash constructed from a disposable bowl, an old pill bottle (big enough to fit around my lens), duct tape, and tin foil.

not perfect
BUT,  For less than 5 bucks a neat little light modifier to have around...

Feb 04 08 11:09 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

cool...keep em coming!

Feel free to post links to other clever threads of DIY projects

Feb 04 08 11:23 pm Link

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Photography By Jeptha

Posts: 156

Honolulu, Hawaii, US

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=5466322

here is one from my home made ring light
i will post images of the process of making it later

Feb 04 08 11:24 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

From an email I recieved :

feel free to share this
info if desired.
(credit: "idea c/o Bigler")


I would not use it as a strobe based ringlight, but rather as a
constant light. (low light hand held slow shutter studio).
I would set in place 6 or so of the small 60 watt minibased bulbs found


https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2244185225_28feecf1f0.jpg

at Home Depot, and cover the facia with tuffspun.
The lens opening would need to be enlarged as desired with a dremel.
-Bigler
Source...  SMART&FINAL


Thanks Steve!
My 2 cents:

I had looked and looked for a large bundt pan, as I figured it would be smoothly transitioned and minimize cutting. The one in the picture Steve provided was the largest I saw...


My thoughts on that project.. again just my opinion:

360 watts of power cooking in a pan is going to get  plenty warm.

If you follow the project above make certain you've insulated the elements well, or the pan becomes the ground, and by proxy so do you. Perhaps screwing them to a wooden ring and inserting the whole thing in.

the long tube would be rocking if you're shooting long lenses..


My first Ringflash attempt used a 6" pot as my flare/vignetting killer.. seen here:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2181/2120517493_cc1ec1ac02_m.jpg


yet even when using an 85mm on a dslr (so essentilly around a 105mm focal length)  I was getting vignetting and seeing the edges:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2152/2244221017_8152f50688.jpg



finally stepping back and changing a lens led to :

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2005/2245014246_4198573a41.jpg


and a slightly tighter crop:

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2306/2244221063_9058ff263e.jpg



Steve: Thank you for the project!... the Bundt pan with smaller (fan) lights would make an interesting tool!

the only reason for my caveat was the afore experienced vignetting  with my first ringflash which was the main reason I built V2, as seen above.

If anyone finds a REALLY big buntpan let me know! I looked at numerous restaurant supply stores...

Feb 05 08 02:40 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

Nudge

Feb 07 08 12:03 pm Link

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MichaelDean

Posts: 165

Austin, Texas, US

I'm wondering...do you think it would have an even greater ringflash effefct if the heads were aimed to bounce into the smaller inner ring first?  Maybe they already do...kinda hard to tell from the pics.

Really nice tutorial!  I love DIY stuff too.

Feb 07 08 12:38 pm Link

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JLRPhoto

Posts: 68

Dallas, Texas, US

Here's my DIY:

I had some ideas about how to attach it to my camera, but I bought an ABR800 with a moon unit instead.

http://jeremyreitman.blogspot.com/2007/ … st-so.html

https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2114/2118518123_77512b9d07.jpg

Feb 07 08 01:35 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

MichaelDean wrote:
I'm wondering...do you think it would have an even greater ringflash effefct if the heads were aimed to bounce into the smaller inner ring first?  Maybe they already do...kinda hard to tell from the pics.

Really nice tutorial!  I love DIY stuff too.

They are set at a slight angle because of the curve of the bowl and hit near the curve of the inverted medium bowl..hopefully bouncing the light back right in the middle of the larger bowl, without spilling out directly. The hourglass shape directs the light around the bowl before it travels outward. That was at least my attempt..:-)

I'll bew adding a few more top and bottom when I find some cheap ones with a comparable GN.. Any lack of power comes from the fact that these are VERY CHEAP little flashes...

Feb 07 08 02:02 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

cough

Feb 10 08 02:39 pm Link

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Studio 115

Posts: 111

Tampa, Florida, US

Nobody has asked this? How much to make one for me? I am no do it myselfer but it's always great to spend less.

Feb 10 08 02:46 pm Link

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slave to the lens

Posts: 9078

Woodland Hills, California, US

Studio 115  wrote:
Nobody has asked this? How much to make one for me? I am no do it myselfer but it's always great to spend less.

*crickets*


If I'm taking the time to make something, I'm using it....

Feb 10 08 02:59 pm Link