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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

ok so i own the pocket wizard multimax transceiver i was wondering if was to buy the cheaper pocket wizard II  instead of the multimax reciever will these two still work together ?

Feb 04 08 05:10 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Yes, as long as the 4 "classic" channels are used.

PW prides itself in forward and backward compatability.

Feb 04 08 05:15 pm Link

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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

rp_photo wrote:
Yes, as long as the 4 "classic" channels are used.

PW prides itself in forward and backward compatability.

ima rookie with these what do you mean by the 4 classic channels are used

Feb 04 08 05:21 pm Link

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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

also whats the name of the chord ill need to plug my pocket wizard into my light with haha

im using the alien bees strobes so the mono plug has to be small

Feb 04 08 05:24 pm Link

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Cliff from NJ

Posts: 1430

Clinton, New Jersey, US

Brian Walsh Images wrote:

ima rookie with these what do you mean by the 4 classic channels are used

the cheaper one has 1-4 channels while the more expensive has 32.

Feb 04 08 05:26 pm Link

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Cliff from NJ

Posts: 1430

Clinton, New Jersey, US

Brian Walsh Images wrote:
also whats the name of the chord ill need to plug my pocket wizard into my light with haha

im using the alien bees strobes so the mono plug has to be small

sync I think

Feb 04 08 05:26 pm Link

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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

Anonymous Photographer wrote:

the cheaper one has 1-4 channels while the more expensive has 32.

thank u smile

Feb 04 08 05:26 pm Link

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Busch Photography

Posts: 45

Irvine, California, US

On the PW Plus II, there are four channels .... 1,2,3,4. As long as you use those on the new Multimax you will be good.


The cable you use is called a "sync cable". There are multiple configurations with different plugs on each side. Make sure you know which type of plug you have on your lights before you buy.

Feb 04 08 05:29 pm Link

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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

Busch Photo wrote:
On the PW Plus II, there are four channels .... 1,2,3,4. As long as you use those on the new Multimax you will be good.


The cable you use is called a "sync cable". There are multiple configurations with different plugs on each side. Make sure you know which type of plug you have on your lights before you buy.

its a tiny plug so im guessing the miniphone ?

Feb 04 08 05:31 pm Link

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Ricardo Mejia

Posts: 413

Denver, Colorado, US

PocketWizard Plus (and II's) only use 4 channels called "Classic Channel".  Page 21 of your MultiMax user guide tells you how to set it up to work with the Classic Channels.

This table on the PW website shows you what flash cable you will need to use:

http://www.pocketwizard.com/HTML/cables2.asp

Find AB on the table, and look for the part number at B&H or other retailer.

PS  I'm using a MultiMax along with several PocketWizard Plus II's.

Feb 04 08 05:32 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Brian Walsh Images wrote:
also whats the name of the chord ill need to plug my pocket wizard into my light with haha

im using the alien bees strobes so the mono plug has to be small

It's a sync cord, specifically mono minijack to mono minijack for ABs. You can get those at Radio Shack.

Feb 04 08 05:32 pm Link

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Bettridge Photography

Posts: 18

Farmington, Utah, US

I use multimax's and II's together. As previously stated as long as you set the multimax to the first 4 "classic channels" (the same channel as the II is set on of course) it will work fine.

The advantage of the multimax (even though it costs a considerable amount more) is you have more channels to choose from so you don't walk over other photogs shooting in an arena or somewhere that others are using them as well.

The II's are great for the price and in your own studio there is no problem walking over someone else. They are a tranceiver like the multimax instead of the design of the older wizards that required receivers for your lights and a transmitter for your camera.

As far as cables go I would recommend spending a couple of extra $$ and getting the genuine cables. I have tried to rig them up from Radio Shack cables and they tend fire when you do not want them to and do not fire ever once in a while. You don't want to miss a perfect shot by saving a couple of $$.

Feb 04 08 05:34 pm Link

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Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

thank u lots!

will this work


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009UTC2

Feb 04 08 05:59 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Brian Walsh Images wrote:
thank u lots!

will this work


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009UTC2

The ends look right so it should. The Radio Shack cables are a lot cheaper though than the PW ones.

Feb 04 08 06:03 pm Link

Photographer

Brian Walsh Images

Posts: 91

Miami, Florida, US

i have a giftcard on amazon so its fine with me if i spend a little extra just wanna make sure its the correct chord

Feb 04 08 06:04 pm Link

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Bettridge Photography

Posts: 18

Farmington, Utah, US

I forgot to include these guys I have purchased a few cords from them over the past few years. http://www.paramountcords.com/Pockwiz.asp

Feb 12 08 01:17 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Bettridge Photography wrote:
The advantage of the multimax (even though it costs a considerable amount more) is you have more channels to choose from so you don't walk over other photogs shooting in an arena or somewhere that others are using them as well.

Has a "code of ethics" evolved as to the avoidance of channel conflicts at group events, similar to the colored tags that R/C plane hobbyists use at flying fields?

First guideline should be that Multi-Max users use channels other than first four.

Feb 12 08 01:24 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Brian Walsh Images wrote:
thank u lots!

will this work


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009UTC2

Is that the correct connector for the Sunpak 383?

I am contemplating getting male-male miniphone cables from Radio Shack, cutting them in half, and splicing to the cut Sunpak cables.

Would others agree that 1/8" miniphone is the accepted standard for sync connections, and that PC should be avoided whenever possible?

Bettridge Photography wrote:
I forgot to include these guys I have purchased a few cords from them over the past few years. http://www.paramountcords.com/Pockwiz.asp

The prices on some of these sync cables are almost as bad as the Pocket Wizrds themselves!

Feb 12 08 01:37 pm Link

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Imagenes

Posts: 1040

Baltimore, Maryland, US

The MultiMax will work with the PW Plus IIs. As already posted here, the MM can support 32 channels, the PL+2s only 4. It Doesn't make sense to have the MM paired with the new PlusIIs. The PlusIIs can't do any of the timing delays that the MMs can do. I had a MM and several PW+2s. I sold the MM and replaced it with another Plus II.
The synch cord is a 1/8 mini on the PW to whatever your strobes use.
Elinchroms use a 1/8 mini
ABs use a 1/8 mini
WLs use a 1/4

That is all

Feb 12 08 07:36 pm Link

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Imagenes

Posts: 1040

Baltimore, Maryland, US

rp_photo wrote:
Would others agree that 1/8" miniphone is the accepted standard for sync connections, and that PC should be avoided whenever possible?

Sure, except when the strobe Mfr has picked something different.

I use my PWs to fire flash units and they use PC. If you have an on camera flash, you'll have to use the camera's PC synch connector to fire the PW.

Feb 12 08 07:40 pm Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Imagenes wrote:
The MultiMax will work with the PW Plus IIs. As already posted here, the MM can support 32 channels, the PL+2s only 4. It Doesn't make sense to have the MM paired with the new PlusIIs. The PlusIIs can't do any of the timing delays that the MMs can do.

If you use the MultiMax as the transmitter, you can still get:

Rear-curtain sync even on cameras which don't support it.
Mid-curtain sync or other delays
Multipop functions

Few of those apply to model photography, but can still be quite in other genre. Most model-only photographers won't benefit from a MultiMax other than the extra channels and ability to set 4 zones for the upper 16 channels, and those features do require both sending and receiving units to be MultiMax units.

Feb 12 08 09:09 pm Link