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OLJ studio

Posts: 1550

Winnetka, California, US

Does anybody use pattern gobos with AB?
Any manufactures? Holders?

Feb 20 08 11:33 pm Link

Photographer

BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

No focusing spot.

Feb 20 08 11:37 pm Link

Photographer

OLJ studio

Posts: 1550

Winnetka, California, US

BlindMike wrote:
No focusing spot.

Any way to get the result?
Basically I'm looking for two things:

1.    Make some shadows on background
2.    Get some shadows on model, for example emulating window frame or window blinders

Feb 20 08 11:41 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

OLJ studio wrote:
Any way to get the result?
Basically I'm looking for two things:

1.    Make some shadows on background
2.    Get some shadows on model, for example emulating window frame or window blinders

Yah, buy a fresnel and put together your own box. Lenses are around $20 shipped (I need to look, had a link to them somewhere), and the box can be as simple or fancy as you'd like as long as you have a way to move the cutout and lens.

Feb 20 08 11:55 pm Link

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Jefferson Dorsey

Posts: 648

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I have just experimented with this issue.

Using a non-fresnel (unfocused) light source, you can still get sharp, well-defined shadows, but the gobo-type device has to be close to the subject. The farther away from the subject, and closer to the light, the less detail.  It would cost a lot of money to get a gobo big enough to be close to the model--it would have to be as big as a window.  Which is what you are imitating.  You could buy a cheap set of venetian blinds or buy a large piece of foamcore or paper and cut out your pattern.  Hang that near the model, out of frame, shoot your light through that (a grid in the reflector helps tremendously), and there ya go.

edit: hard to tell in the closeup, but I used this setup with my avatar.

Feb 20 08 11:55 pm Link

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Jeff Searust

Posts: 920

Austin, Texas, US

2 cheap ways to do it.

1--slide projector-- or filmstrip projector. (eBay)

2--Ikea sells a gobo spot with a few cookies and with a little ingenuity you can make others, $49.95 and can't go wrong. 

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10050674

Feb 20 08 11:57 pm Link

Photographer

OLJ studio

Posts: 1550

Winnetka, California, US

Jeff Searust wrote:
2--Ikea sells a gobo spot with a few cookies and with a little ingenuity you can make others, $49.95 and can't go wrong. 

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/10050674

won't it be overpowerd by strobes, it's just 50W bulb?

Feb 21 08 12:02 am Link

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Jeff Searust

Posts: 920

Austin, Texas, US

No, not if you creatively set up the lighting specifically so you are not aiming a bare strobe at the effect you are creating. Usually this is used to light behind the model, and then use diffused and or spots on the model that don't wash out behind.

Feb 21 08 12:45 am Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Something like the old "Turbo F-16" spotlight attachment or SP Systems' spotlight attachment are likely to be as cheap as they get. You could build your own from a pair of fresnel lenses and a sliding tube or box, but the cost is likely to end up more than one that's already built.

Those units will not give a knife-edge crispness to the image, and are likely to have some color fringing, but to add texture to a background, they're great.

If you really need a crisp projected image, and need it strobe-based, a dedicated unit is likely to be needed, and they're not particularly cheap; used they'll start at around $500 for the lower-end models. Most of the larger strobe makers (Balcar, Broncolor, Dyna-Lite, Elinchrom, Profoto, Photogenic, Speedotron) make focusing spotlights. Norman's older Tri-Lite is another option, if you can find it used.

If you're particularly handy, you could gut an existing theatrical spotlight, and put a strobe head inside. It'd be tricky to get the alignment of the bulb right for the best results, but it's been done--it's how Speedotron's old integrated spotlight was made; they converted an Altman projector.

Feb 21 08 04:31 am Link

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Paul Brecht

Posts: 12232

Colton, California, US

Feb 21 08 07:19 pm Link