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Photographer

Visual Cocktail

Posts: 24

Cary, Illinois, US

If so, I'd love to check out your port.

Is there one you recommend? I'm looking to change my style a little.

Jan 25 06 05:30 pm Link

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former_mm_user

Posts: 5521

New York, New York, US

the chopstick shot in my port was shot with a sunpak dx-12r.  get this one over the 8r, even if you don't need the larger diameter.  it has a modeling light which lets you preview the background shadow.

Jan 25 06 05:39 pm Link

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Chip Willis

Posts: 1780

Columbus, Georgia, US

FWIW... Ringlights are kinda old hat these days. That is, the ring as the primary light. They are and always have great uses, if not so evident. They are great as fill for other main light.

The SunPak DX12R is good, but very weak. ISO 100 it has a guide number around 40. That means F4 at 10 feet or so. If you like higher ISOs then its great.

The profoto ring with soft light reflector is great. Costs alot though. With a 2400 WS pack and a 500th of a second exposure, you can turn mid day into night.

The downside of ringlights, are you need to make sure you use depth carefully, and reflective surfaces. If you dont, the photos will look flat and boring. Also, models need to have more flawless faces and skin as every flaw will be amplified.

Good luck
Chip

ps. I think Tony Ward uses a DX12 in his erotic work.

Jan 25 06 06:37 pm Link

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Merle

Posts: 513

Kennesaw, Georgia, US

I used a Hensel RF as fill on three shot's on my port (Aurielle and Everett shot's), and the shot of Jenne' (on white BG) the same RF was the only light except that BG was lit with a seperate head.

The Hensel runs about $900, and run's off their porty genterator.

Jan 26 06 09:38 am Link

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Brandon Cordon

Posts: 224

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US

Im learning a ton about photography from this site.

My first photographer had a  flash that brought out the gold in my eyes. It looked like a ring. ahha Is that a ring flash?

Jan 26 06 09:41 am Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

Yes, for a lot of different purposes. Rarely for the obvious "ring flash look" with the halo shadow and the circular catch-light and all that. However, as a shadowless (on the subject) concentrated frontal flash look, balanced, it can be really beautiful. Furthermore, it's one of the best fill sources in existance.

Off-hand I'm not sure there are any ringflash images in my current MM portfolio that I have up...

EDIT: I just had a quick look at what I put up and yes, there is one. Ringflash as main. See if you can spot it.

Jan 26 06 09:44 am Link

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Bryan Regan Photography

Posts: 137

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

I use the Profoto w/soft-light reflector. Don't think I have any images in my MM portfolio with it.
It really is a one look type of lightning, if that's what your going for. What's nice is to use it as front fill and backlight the subject.....

Jan 26 06 09:57 am Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

I disagree. I've used ringflashes to create so many different types of looks, from ultra-glossy, to "ringflash" to almost completely natural and so many looks in between. It's actually extremely versitile in that it's got an awful lot of uses. It DOES necessitate certain measures in your working method however. Either those are more or less convenient for the type of shooting and your intended results than other means.

Jan 26 06 10:00 am Link

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East Coast Visual Media

Posts: 690

Altamonte Springs, Florida, US

Any recomendations on price range for a descent ring flash?  I'm intriqued by this Halo catch light idea!

Jan 26 06 10:05 am Link

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former_mm_user

Posts: 5521

New York, New York, US

Marko Cecic-Karuzic wrote:
EDIT: I just had a quick look at what I put up and yes, there is one. Ringflash as main. See if you can spot it.

"just a simple test with really pretty girl..."

did i win?

Jan 26 06 10:09 am Link

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East Coast Visual Media

Posts: 690

Altamonte Springs, Florida, US

Kind of a Fellini moment, isn't it?

Jan 26 06 10:18 am Link

Model

Benny

Posts: 7318

Brooklyn, New York, US

I worked with this phgotographer before and he uses it sometime
https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=55715

Jan 26 06 10:22 am Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

Christopher Bush wrote:

"just a simple test with really pretty girl..."

did i win?

Ding ding ding ding ding! Ed, tell the contestant what he's won...

Yeah, that's one example of a fairly "glossy" look that can be created with ringflash. It can get much more extreme, and much more subtle than that one example. (Not directed at you Christopher but to the OP and general audience.)

Jan 26 06 10:30 am Link

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MS Photo Chicago

Posts: 387

Chicago, Illinois, US

The pictures of Jean Bardot and the color one of Monika use a ringflash. The only time I use one is when I rent it and generally I want that ringflash look. The last few times I've used diffuser on it which tones down the the halo. Chip is right that the ringflash is a little passe but who cares, when used right with the right look it has a cool look.

mike

Jan 26 06 10:31 pm Link

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Visual Cocktail

Posts: 24

Cary, Illinois, US

Thanks for the feedback.

great photo examples too.

I think I'll rent one to check it out before I invest.

Jan 26 06 10:39 pm Link

Photographer

B R E E D L O V E

Posts: 8022

Forks, Washington, US

I used a super cheap vivitar ring flash for this shot. Gotta watch those red eyes though.

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/k.jpg


and this shot

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/nikki2.jpg


and this shot

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/ch.jpg

and this shot


https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/ni.jpg


I hope that helps

Jan 26 06 11:54 pm Link

Photographer

Visual Cocktail

Posts: 24

Cary, Illinois, US

Terry Breedlove wrote:
I used a super cheap vivitar ring flash for this shot. Gotta watch those red eyes though.

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/k.jpg


and this shot

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/nikki2.jpg


and this shot

https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/ch.jpg

and this shot


https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Terry-Breedlove/cali/ni.jpg


I hope that helps

I was looking at the Vivitar, sale price of $79.00 here: http://porters.com/Merchant2/merchant.m … y_Code=F3H

Jan 27 06 05:35 am Link

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JBPhoto

Posts: 1107

Belleville, Michigan, US

The inexpensive ones have very limited range and are intended mostly for macro shots.
Although they will work, you need to have a fast lens or a high ASA and good noise reduction.
Also be prepared to fix a certain amount of red-eye if your model has blue or light green eyes.

Jan 27 06 06:11 am Link

Photographer

Art Of Imaging

Posts: 13136

Brooklyn, New York, US

profoto ringflash used for avatar image and maybe one or 2 more images in my port

Sep 21 06 04:52 pm Link

Photographer

oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

i use ring flash in a variety of ways for different looks.
another weapon in the arsenal.
there is one shot in my current MM port.
not tellin. you gotta guess.

Sep 21 06 05:06 pm Link

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Len Cook Photographer

Posts: 599

Fremont, California, US

oldguysrule wrote:
i use ring flash in a variety of ways for different looks.
another weapon in the arsenal.
there is one shot in my current MM port.
not tellin. you gotta guess.

42

Sep 21 06 05:12 pm Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

Yes. Sometimes.

Sep 21 06 05:16 pm Link

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Art Of Imaging

Posts: 13136

Brooklyn, New York, US

oldguysrule wrote:
i use ring flash in a variety of ways for different looks.
another weapon in the arsenal.
there is one shot in my current MM port.
not tellin. you gotta guess.

this one
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=734934

Sep 21 06 05:21 pm Link

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oldguysrule

Posts: 6129

Benny-H wrote:

this one
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=734934

nope. the only light in that image is the sun. *wink

Sep 21 06 05:32 pm Link

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TestShoot

Posts: 1113

Beverly Hills, California, US

i use RF a LOT. I will say that if you are not in a well lit room to begin with, the poor model will be blind from the first burst! lol

I vary depth to the backdrop so sometimes the shadow is really wide. take a look in my port here, the old guy and girl in red chair, ringflash smile the one with the odd vignetting was done by looseing the ring and shooting a little gimbled to the side as opposed to straight through.

FYI it can be brutal, so use sparingly
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9789573
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19814956/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/10151969
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/9842153

Sep 21 06 05:39 pm Link

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Ransomaniac

Posts: 12588

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Christopher Bush wrote:
the chopstick shot in my port was shot with a sunpak dx-12r.  get this one over the 8r, even if you don't need the larger diameter.  it has a modeling light which lets you preview the background shadow.

Yes it's a great little ring flash.  Definately does the job if you know how to use it.  i've used it as a main and as fill since I got it and I'm very happy with the results.

https://foxesforever.com/ringflashgrace.jpg
https://foxesforever.com/ringflashaala.jpg
https://foxesforever.com/ringflash3.jpg

Sep 21 06 11:27 pm Link

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brett ferguson

Posts: 329

Sacramento, California, US

I have had a Profoto 1200 Acute ringflash  with a softlite reflector for about a year and a half. When I first got it, I used to go for the "ringflash" look. Then I started experimenting and found that it can be ued in many different ways. I bought a grip so that I can mount it on a lightstand to bounce into an umbrella or use as a main light source, undiluted. Now I tend to use it in a way that doesn't have so much of the "ringflash" signature.
Things I have learned- it gets heavy if you are hand holding the camera mounted with the ringflash. There is no modeling light in this unit which is somewhat inconvenient. You need the model or an assistant to take a meter reading if you are hand holding the flash. The light seems to fall off fairly rapidly and if you change your distance from the subject by as little as 6 inches, it can make a difference. It works best 3 feet to 6 feet from the subject. Yes you can turn mid day sky dark if you jack up all the power and shoot at f/22-f/32. It does make a great fill light, can be used easily with other lights. It is great in a cramped space. The shots in my port of the model standing next to and inside of the BMW were shot with ringflash/softlite as the only light source, other than ambient at about 2 to 3 stops below the ringflash. You really have to watch out for red eye in a completely dark space. Use pre-flash to fix the retina before ringflash!
I don't use it for every shoot- but when I want that certain look- or to experiment with it as an off-camera light- it is fun and gives great results. Is it worth the $$$- I would say yes.

Sep 24 06 02:19 am Link

Photographer

Archived

Posts: 13509

Phoenix, Arizona, US

I'm still undecided on whether I love or hate the "model-right-next-to-the-wall, trademark-ringflash-shadow" look.

Sep 26 06 09:51 pm Link

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Daniel_Bergeron

Posts: 126

Los Angeles, California, US

I use a profoto ring, that has been pinned for dyna-lite, fairly often. It's no magic bullet, but it works for a lot of what I do. Incidentally, I've never had an issue with red-eye.

Sep 27 06 12:44 pm Link

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4C 41 42

Posts: 11093

Nashville, Tennessee, US

I've got a few shots in my port that were done with a Hensel ring.  I'll be stopping by Alien Bees to pick up my AB ringlight in about 30 minutes.  Pity I don't have my camera with me.

Sep 27 06 12:47 pm Link

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Anthony Cole

Posts: 299

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

LarryB wrote:
I've got a few shots in my port that were done with a Hensel ring.  I'll be stopping by Alien Bees to pick up my AB ringlight in about 30 minutes.  Pity I don't have my camera with me.

Larry
Please post a pic when you get a chance from your AB ringlight

Sep 27 06 01:28 pm Link

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Jake St Peter

Posts: 30

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

I am really surprised that there were not many examples of photos done with the Ring Flash - I just ordered the New Alien Bee one - Waiting for it to get here.

Jul 11 07 03:20 pm Link

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TestShoot

Posts: 1113

Beverly Hills, California, US

Wow, has it been a whole 24 hours since the last ringflash thread was started?

I like off-setting the ring with the bowl reflector on it sometimes smile

Alien Bees is pitifully underpowered for full length shots. The Profoto unit is the one I use and power = better in all cases with ringflash if you want it to look like a ringflash at all. Metallic walls behind the subject can be pretty cool too.

https://img4.modelmayhem.com/060403/02/4430d123268fe_m.jpg
https://www.testshoot.com/Portals/0/portfolios/models/erinlear/erin_lear_020.jpg
https://www.testshoot.com/Portals/0/portfolios/models/emily/0Tim073-R1-E035_jpg.jpg

Jul 11 07 03:35 pm Link

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Jon da Vid Photography

Posts: 348

Amarillo, Texas, US

Shot with an Alien Bee ringflash...

https://img9.modelmayhem.com/070711/15/46953df0efde3_m.jpg

https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070312/13/45f58abe2f9fc_m.jpg

Jul 11 07 03:41 pm Link

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Mark Brummitt

Posts: 40527

Clarkston, Michigan, US

Visual Cocktail wrote:
If so, I'd love to check out your port.

Is there one you recommend? I'm looking to change my style a little.

Yes.

Jul 11 07 03:49 pm Link

Photographer

AJR Photography

Posts: 511

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Yeppers... I have a few in my port done with the AB's
Ringflash

Heres a few:

https://img7.modelmayhem.com/070405/12/461526128dc9b_m.jpg

https://img7.modelmayhem.com/070525/10/4656f83b176ae_m.jpg

https://img8.modelmayhem.com/070615/10/4672a6af3a72a_m.jpg

https://img7.modelmayhem.com/070416/13/4623b0d5951c0_m.jpg

Jul 11 07 03:49 pm Link