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paulcoxphotography

Posts: 704

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

So I'm thinking of getting some continuous lighting mainly to mix with flash (using gels on the flash) to introduce movement.  I've seen the Arri 650 watt Junior Spotlight which looks ideal with the fresnel lens.

Anyone use one?  Feedback would be cool as would any alternatives to consider.

Mar 12 08 04:54 pm Link

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Ed Hanson Photo

Posts: 1129

Spring, Texas, US

I use the 650 and the 1000. I would recommend the 1000 at minimum, especially if you intend to gel. The gels cut the light down, and are easily overpowered by mixing strobes, but often use ND gels to balance it out. Hope that helps.

Mar 12 08 04:57 pm Link

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paulcoxphotography

Posts: 704

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Ed Hanson wrote:
I use the 650 and the 1000. I would recommend the 1000 at minimum, especially if you intend to gel. The gels cut the light down, and are easily overpowered by mixing strobes, but often use ND gels to balance it out. Hope that helps.

Really?  Aww crap they are an extra £100 ($200) here.  I was thinking of using shutter speeds around 1/10th - is it still likely to be a problem?

Mar 12 08 05:05 pm Link

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Ed Hanson Photo

Posts: 1129

Spring, Texas, US

coxyuk wrote:
Really?  Aww crap they are an extra £100 ($200) here.  I was thinking of using shutter speeds around 1/10th - is it still likely to be a problem?

Likely not a problem @ 1/10th. Especially if you intend to drag the shutter or similar technique. Bump up your ISO, and you could probably get away with it!
Good luck, and show us the images when done!

Mar 12 08 06:55 pm Link

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paulcoxphotography

Posts: 704

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Thanks Ed.  Interested in views from any other users of this and similar lights.  Are they significantly better than the typical redheads?

Mar 13 08 02:34 pm Link

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DonaldUla

Posts: 286

Washington, District of Columbia, US

I have a lot of Arri fresnel fixtures. Its a well built light that will last for decades.

I mix HMI lights in with strobes so I can't speak to the issue of the intensity of the tungsten light and how that will match up with your strobes. Like the other poster mentioned, dragging the shutter should get you there.

Look up the photometric data online for that light to see if it will have the punch you need. You mentioned redheads - that's an open face light that will give more punch, but lack the control of the fresnel. If you don't need the light source to be specific then the open face will be a cheaper alternative for you.

Cheers

Mar 13 08 02:47 pm Link

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Robert Randall

Posts: 13890

Chicago, Illinois, US

coxyuk wrote:
Thanks Ed.  Interested in views from any other users of this and similar lights.  Are they significantly better than the typical redheads?

If you point an Arri at a large blank wall, you will see a beautiful globe of light with smooth gradations and wonderful gradient edges. If you point a Mole anything at the same wall all you will see is ugly chopped up light artifacts. I sold over 50 Mole lights just to get a dozen or so Arri heads.

Mar 13 08 03:20 pm Link

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WIP

Posts: 15973

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

'50 Mole lights' Wow never seen that many lights on a film/commercial or car shoot.

Mar 13 08 04:42 pm Link

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paulcoxphotography

Posts: 704

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Cheers guys!

Mar 13 08 04:45 pm Link

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nadnerb nef

Posts: 256

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I sometimes do still photos for film productions. they use these lights alot.

I find they are just barely bright enough. ...Barely. I have to use a faster ISO, hold the camera very steady, and hope the actors don't move too much. It's not impossible, but depending on how you use it you may find the strobes overpower it.

I've heard of people using them with strobes for portraits. They shine it from behind them and right in the models eyes so the pupils contract and you get more of the coloured area of the eye. The flash of the strobes is way brighter so it does not interfere with the main light(s).

Mar 13 08 05:02 pm Link

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Bay Photo

Posts: 734

Marseille, Provence-Alpes-Côte-d'Azur, France

a Fresnel is a great thing indeed, but if you just need some cheap and easy punch look at the Lowell tota lights. they are great. and if you are familiar with lighting, you can do quite a bit with them and a few flags and black wrap.

i would usually prefer an HMI, but then you start getting some serious needs for power and they take up much space with all teh required elements.

Profoto used to make a great HMI that was exactly the same size as the Pro7 1200 pack. it is a great light, but not sure if you can find them in rentals anymore



Jim

Mar 13 08 05:08 pm Link

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Robert Randall

Posts: 13890

Chicago, Illinois, US

c_h_r_i_s wrote:
'50 Mole lights' Wow never seen that many lights on a film/commercial or car shoot.

I used to employ 20 people, of which, 3 were photographers. You need to keep them well supplied if you want to make a buck off their efforts.

Mar 13 08 05:40 pm Link

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StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

Kevlar Vest Girl wrote:

I used to employ 20 people, of which, 3 were photographers. You need to keep them well supplied if you want to make a buck off their efforts.

Teach them to use 1 light an a bunch of tinfoil reflectors smile



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Mar 13 08 05:43 pm Link

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Erick Anthony Photo

Posts: 918

Murrieta, California, US

coxyuk wrote:
So I'm thinking of getting some continuous lighting mainly to mix with flash (using gels on the flash) to introduce movement.  I've seen the Arri 650 watt Junior Spotlight which looks ideal with the fresnel lens.

Anyone use one?  Feedback would be cool as would any alternatives to consider.

I got 5 Arri 2000 Watt's.   Dude, all I can say is amazing!!!  If you are going to go with continuous lighting there is no better.  Just a bit pricey and the modifying accessories aren't cheep either.

However Westcott makes some killer ones too.

Mar 13 08 06:10 pm Link

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paulcoxphotography

Posts: 704

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Great - sounds like the Arri is the one to go for.  Will probably pick one up in the next few days and see how I go on.

At least it should help keep the studio warm smile

Mar 13 08 06:42 pm Link