Forums > Photography Talk > How do I gel my subject like this???

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Graham Vickers

Posts: 21

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I'm just curious about color gels while shooting fashion..
There is so many people de-saturating their fashion shots almost to the point of B&Wing them..
But with these desaturated photos others are putting color gels on the subjects.. I love this technique and am very interested in experimenting, but I am wondering about 3 different things..

1- Is is better to use a continuous light source with the gel??
2- Is it better to use a strobe but just stop down 2-3 stops??
3- what about gel light positon??

All of these things I'm sure I could figure out on my own..
But I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone might have some helpful insight or suggestions before I start testing..

Thanks!

here's a photo of what I am trying to acomplish..

https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/vick074/Picture2.png

Mar 17 08 05:32 pm Link

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Columbus Photo

Posts: 2318

Columbus, Georgia, US

I'd use a strobe but I'd also find a way to keep the shadows off her body.  Either a grid or a scrim or something.

Paul

Mar 17 08 05:39 pm Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Regular lighting with main light from the right (of the picture), and secondary light from high and behind left.  Blue fill from near camera, slightly to the right and below.  Red fill from the far left about eyelevel.  Both red and blue fill are at reduced levels compared to the main and secondary lights.

You can use gels designed for hot lights on hot lights, but it is tricky because of the intense heat.  Even strobes can get hot so best not to have the gel in contact with the flash unit.

I would recommend gels on electronic flash units with lots of chimping or tethered shooting and some pre-testing.

Mar 17 08 05:40 pm Link

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Liam Gideon

Posts: 508

Bethesda, Maryland, US

What a great shot to choose to base your experiment from. I'd love to add some advice but the second post pretty much nailed it!

Mar 17 08 05:47 pm Link

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ArtisticVisions

Posts: 1012

Nashville, Tennessee, US

there is a very soft diffusion gel to use in front of a gel as well,definatly do not use hot lights as the other poster said or the gel will burn out dead center,use a theatrical light or clip it way out in front of your lights,most of all have fun experimenting with it,for even more fun mix some theatrical gobo patterns.

Mar 17 08 05:53 pm Link

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Kevin Stenhouse

Posts: 2660

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Paul Ferrara wrote:
I'd use a strobe but I'd also find a way to keep the shadows off her body.  Either a grid or a scrim or something.

Paul

I like the shadow, it's another compositional element.

Mar 17 08 05:55 pm Link

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joe duerr

Posts: 4227

Santa Ana, California, US

Graham Vickers wrote:
I'm just curious about color gels while shooting fashion..
There is so many people de-saturating their fashion shots almost to the point of B&Wing them..
But with these desaturated photos others are putting color gels on the subjects.. I love this technique and am very interested in experimenting, but I am wondering about 3 different things..

1- Is is better to use a continuous light source with the gel??
2- Is it better to use a strobe but just stop down 2-3 stops??
3- what about gel light positon??

All of these things I'm sure I could figure out on my own..
But I thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone might have some helpful insight or suggestions before I start testing..

Thanks!

here's a photo of what I am trying to acomplish..

https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/vick074/Picture2.png

I use color gels on black wall or seamless and have for a ton of years.
All the studio images in my port are either black or white background.
My web site has a ton more http://www.photodays.la/models.htm

Just basic rules.

If you want to flood the background just a reflector with the gel.
If you want a spot and fade to black use a scrim.
The farther from the background the larger the circle of light.
If you want more intense color dumb down the main light or move the light closer.
The angle of the light on the background will create the shape of the light.

You can actually create a complete oval of light fading to black with the model in the center.

If you want to get rid of shadows on white seamless, hit it from the back with a strobe.

Hope this is not too basic and helps with your questions. If you have any direct question feel free to PM me anytime...

Mar 17 08 08:58 pm Link

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Thomas Calder

Posts: 58

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

hey, just wondering, who shot the picture? would love to see some more of their work!

Mar 17 08 09:26 pm Link

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joe duerr

Posts: 4227

Santa Ana, California, US

https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/vick074/Picture2.png
Ok,
Just on the image...

It appears to be a red gel on the left maybe one-quarter or one eighth power and at a distance or you would see a lot more red. The red light is below the models face and angled up slightly. You can almost see its location in the reflection on her lips. The location of the red on her left breast and under her nose help support that location.

Next is the hair light, white above and slightly behind. Looking at her hair and the light on her right shoulder and across her chest.

The last is the main light. It appears to be just below face level judging from the reflection of her shoulder just below her chin. It also appears to be less than 90 degrees off to the right based on the shadow on her nose and left arm. The reflection in the eye supports this. Now the tricky part, only because of the amount of PS on the image, but I think there was a very light blue gel on the main.

Mar 17 08 09:26 pm Link

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WULF Photography

Posts: 130

Colorado Springs, Colorado, US

Looks almost like a CG to me.  Interesting.

Mar 17 08 09:38 pm Link

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ChrisCrimsonPhotography

Posts: 510

Chicago, Illinois, US

its a beautiful image of a beautiful girl with a very capable photographer.  I love high fashion done well.  You should shoot gels and x process them

Mar 17 08 09:50 pm Link

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190608

Posts: 2383

Los Angeles, California, US

The photographer's name is Mr. Wendell Levi Teodoro and his MM profile is here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=412676

@ OP: Why don't you write to Mr. Theodoro and ask him how he lit the scene?

Ronald N. Tan
www.ronaldntan.com

Thomas Calder wrote:
hey, just wondering, who shot the picture? would love to see some more of their work!

Mar 17 08 10:09 pm Link