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Ray of Light Images

Posts: 51

Keene, Texas, US

Ok guys, I need help. Does anyone know of any way that I can make a "home made" snoot?  Some one on another forum told me he made one for his lighting setup but he never got back to me on just how he did it.  So, I'm coming to my MM friends for help.  Thanks in advance guys.

-Marie

Aug 23 08 03:37 pm Link

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Jeff Wayne

Posts: 2764

Los Angeles, California, US

Ray of Light Images wrote:
Ok guys, I need help. Does anyone know of any way that I can make a "home made" snoot?  Some one on another forum told me he made one for his lighting setup but he never got back to me on just how he did it.  So, I'm coming to my MM friends for help.  Thanks in advance guys.

-Marie

ummm, try some grid and cardboard????

*edit* or find a big funnel and modify it?

Aug 23 08 03:40 pm Link

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Red Sky Photography

Posts: 3896

Germantown, Maryland, US

I've used a piece of Cinefoil wrapped around a reflector. You can make it any length and as tight as you like.

Vic

Aug 23 08 03:40 pm Link

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Michael Bates

Posts: 1554

Austin, Texas, US

Red Sky Photography wrote:
I've used a piece of Cinefoil wrapped around a reflector. You can make it any length and as tight as you like.

Vic

Cinefoil works very well...mold it, shape it, size it the way you want it smile

Michael

Aug 23 08 03:43 pm Link

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Ray of Light Images

Posts: 51

Keene, Texas, US

Red Sky Photography wrote:
I've used a piece of Cinefoil wrapped around a reflector. You can make it any length and as tight as you like.

Vic

Wow, thanks for the quick responses everyone. At the risk of sounding like like a noob, what exactly is "cinefoil"?

Aug 23 08 03:51 pm Link

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Preachers Photography

Posts: 1689

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Another easy way is to go to Walmart/Kmart/Target or your favorite sporting goods store and buy a couple of BLACK beer can cozies (those foam coolers you stick a drink in to)

I say black, because anything other than black or white adds a little bit of color cast to the light.

Cut one end out so it is a hollow tube.

Instant snoot.

Add a grid to it if you want or drop a tissue over the end without feat of setting on fire, to soften the light.

Aug 23 08 03:59 pm Link

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Ray of Light Images

Posts: 51

Keene, Texas, US

Preachers Photography wrote:
Another easy way is to go to Walmart/Kmart/Target or your favorite sporting goods store and buy a couple of BLACK beer can cozies (those foam coolers you stick a drink in to)

I say black, because anything other than black or white adds a little bit of color cast to the light.

Cut one end out so it is a hollow tube.

Instant snoot.

Add a grid to it if you want or drop a tissue over the end without feat of setting on fire, to soften the light.

Thanks, so much I'll try this today.  Very good idea.

Aug 23 08 04:01 pm Link

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Red Sky Photography

Posts: 3896

Germantown, Maryland, US

Cinefoil is a really heavy , stiff, black aluminum foil. Most photo shops will have it

Aug 23 08 04:05 pm Link

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DMHolman

Posts: 1867

Lynnwood, Washington, US

Ray of Light Images wrote:
Wow, thanks for the quick responses everyone. At the risk of sounding like like a noob, what exactly is "cinefoil"?

Cinefoil is a thick aluminum foil that's matte black.  Comes in rolls (usually in 12", 24" and 48" widths).  You can cut/tear it to size and shape it to make things like flags, snoots, barn doors, gobos, etc. 

Great stuff.  It's inexpensive, re-usable and because of it's matte black finish it will absorb light and not cause weird reflections.

https://www.rosco.com/images/video/foil.jpg

Aug 23 08 04:08 pm Link

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David Weiss

Posts: 7130

Oshkosh, Wisconsin, US

remove the bottom of a coffee can and paint the rest of the can black.  Also known as top hats.

https://mail.altmanltg.com/publicsynergy/docs/BacoImage.asp?Table=Items&Col=Picture&FileCol=PictureFilename&IDCol=ItemCode&ID=6-SN

Aug 23 08 04:09 pm Link

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Silver Mirage

Posts: 1585

Plainview, Texas, US

Several of mine are made from tin cans -- coffee cans and the like. For my hotshoe flashes I favor mailing tubes. Krylon semi-flat black makes a nice professional looking finish.

If your flash has a modeling light be careful about plastic or paper snoots -- you could start a fire, or at least get a smelly meltdown.

When you get your cinefoil get a roll of gaffer's tape at the same time.

Aug 23 08 04:26 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

1lb box of pasta (empty). Add duct tape for professional effect. Works great with most speedlights.

Aug 23 08 04:58 pm Link

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Ray of Light Images

Posts: 51

Keene, Texas, US

Thanks to all!  You guys are awesome.  You have no idea how long it took me on that other forum to get any information.  Thanks Again!!

Aug 23 08 06:22 pm Link

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Gary Livingston

Posts: 3391

Los Angeles, California, US

aluminum foil, gaffers tape

cinefoil, gaffers tape

that's what i use

Aug 23 08 06:32 pm Link

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Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Pringles cans make wonderful snoots. I've got one I made to work with mySunpak 333s. It's two Pringles cans taped together and with cardboard tabs at the back to hold it onto the flash via velcro.

Aug 23 08 06:35 pm Link

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XTreme Photography Eric

Posts: 203

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

I've used black construction paper to create the snoot shape required, use velcro to attach to my strobe/flash head (I put velcro on all my flash heads for add-on pieces), and then use black electrical tape to reenforce the outside folds.

Aug 23 08 07:34 pm Link

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HerbP

Posts: 546

Winter Springs, Florida, US

I have made a variety of snoots and barn door equivalents using common materials. For most of them I have to leave the modeling lights off because of fire and melting dangers:
1. Two-liter plastic coke bottles, cut so that one slides on the outside of the other, painted flat black on the inside and gloss black on the outside.
2. A small beer tub cut to fit with a brass toilet mounting ring cut and drilled to fit the the tub and the flash, painted flat black. I use a black construction paper cutout to be the equivalent of extended barn doors, sliding the paper in and out of the tub and affixing with tape.
3. An old license plate curled into a cylinder, painted flat black. I slide it over the flash head.
4. A plant nursery 3-gallon plant container, with a hole cut in the back and brass toilet ring cut and drilled to fit it and the flash. painted flat black. A construction paper cutout provides the equivalent of extended barn doors. I slide the paper in and out the container and tape it where I want it.
5. Flat black construction paper curled into a cone and taped to the flash head.
6. Black front mat cardboard cut to various sizes with slots to fit the flash reflector frame spring-loaded holders to form barn doors.
7. PVC pipe cut to various lengths, painted flat black and mated with the existing short snoot to further narrow the angle or cone of illumination.

And finally, a friend of mine bought the red cones used in sports, cut them to provide the required angle of illumination, painted them flat black and says they work fine.

One of the great things about the new digital photo world is that modeling lights are much less important. You can take pictures using your setup, look at the images right away, and make the appropriate changes to your setup and camera settings. You can start out with setup guesswork and quickly wind up with exactly what you want.

Aug 23 08 09:52 pm Link

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AZD Photo

Posts: 49

Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico

I used cinefoil and gaffers tape on this shoot,
https://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080810/13/489f1e98a772f_m.jpg
I love it because you can really play with the shape of the snoot, on this photo I crumpled up a bit the cinefoil to give it a more random edge to the light. smile

Sep 13 08 06:12 pm Link

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Stephen T Photography

Posts: 1120

Santa Barbara, California, US

Cinefoil

Buy it, use it, break it, fix it,
Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it,
Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it,
Snap it, work it, quick - erase it,
Write it, cut it, paste it, save it,
Load it, check it, quick - rewrite it,
Plug it, play it, burn it, rip it,
Drag and drop it, zip - unzip it,
Lock it, fill it, call it, find it,
View it, code it, jam - unlock it,
Surf it, scroll it, pause it, click it,
Cross it, crack it, switch - update it,
Name it, rate it, tune it, print it,
Scan it, send it, fax - rename it,
Touch it, bring it, Pay it, watch it,
Turn it, leave it, start - format it.

Technologic

Sep 13 08 06:15 pm Link

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Stephen T Photography

Posts: 1120

Santa Barbara, California, US

Sep 13 08 06:15 pm Link

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Jason McKendricks

Posts: 6024

Chico, California, US

Robb Mann wrote:
1lb box of pasta (empty). Add duct tape for professional effect. Works great with most speedlights.

Good idea. I've also done it with small cereal boxes.

Sep 13 08 08:42 pm Link

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Stroke Of Light

Posts: 552

Spokane, Washington, US

add on if you cut up straw and then tape them together and add them just inside the end of the pasta box it makes a grid and helps control the light even more just another diy thing I've found

Sep 14 08 04:14 am Link

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stan wigmore photograph

Posts: 2397

Long Beach, California, US

Google ,Strobist.com, if you are useing small off camera flash.They can tell how to build just about anything you need to modify light.

Sep 14 08 04:19 am Link

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My name is Frank

Posts: 554

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sep 14 08 04:20 am Link