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Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

I have been thinking lately....  It is very, very hard to be a model.  Think about it:

Every day, you wake-up and put yourself out there.  You go to a casting.  You are not selected.  Too tall, too short, too heavy, too thin. Face too round. Face too angular.  Nose too wide.  Nose too skinny.  Lips too full.  Lips too thin.  Skin tone too dark.  Skin tone too light.  Legs too short.  Legs too long.  "Oh, and did you see his/her hair?  What was s/he thinking?"

Rejection.

Then, you wake-up the next day and do it again.

And Again. 

And Again .

Oh, you land your share of gigs and you work with your share of great people but, every day, you have to put yourself out there and face the fact that despite your talent and your professionalism and your drive and your determination, your "look" (i.e. something you can do little about) is simply not right for the gig.  You persevere.  You solider on.  You keep your head high as you walk into the wind.

I have been blessed to work with some amazing models.  They inspire me.  Have I had my fair share of flakes?  Sure.  But, I like to dwell on the positive.  Amazing models are a special breed.  They ground me.  The show me daily what it means to pursue a goal despite tough odds.

Girls and Guys:  You are a special breed.  I tip my hat to you knowing that I could not do the same.  Photographers, well, we have our WORK critiqued.  We get the gig or not based largely on the quality of our work. But, that is very different than having ourselves critiqued.   

Models:  you really are a unique breed and I just thought that I would give you credit for putting it out there day after day and to thank you for doing same.

Oct 14 08 09:31 pm Link

Model

Alana Miles

Posts: 6459

Alma, Colorado, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:
I have been thinking lately....  It is very, very hard to be a model.  Think about it:

Every day, you wake-up and put yourself out there.  You go to a casting.  You are not selected.  Too tall, too short, too heavy, too thin. Face too round. Face too angular.  Nose too wide.  Nose too skinny.  Lips too full.  Lips too thin.  Skin tone too dark.  Skin tone too light.  Legs too short.  Legs too long.  "Oh, and did you see his/her hair?  What was s/he thinking?"

Rejection.

Then, you wake-up the next day and do it again.

And Again. 

And Again .

Oh, you land your share of gigs and you work with your share of great people but, every day, you have to put yourself out there and face the fact that despite your talent and your professionalism and your drive and your determination, your "look" (i.e. something you can do little about) is simply not right for the gig.  You persevere.  You solider on.  You keep your head high as you walk into the wind.

I have been blessed to work with some amazing models.  They inspire me.  Have I had my fair share of flakes?  Sure.  But, I like to dwell on the positive.  Amazing models are a special breed.  They ground me.  The show me daily what it means to pursue a goal despite tough odds.

Girls and Guys:  You are a special breed.  I tip my hat to you knowing that I could not do the same.  Photographers, well, we have our WORK critiqued.  We get the gig or not based largely on the quality of our work. But, that is very different than having ourselves critiqued.   

Models:  you really are a unique breed and I just thought that I would give you credit for putting it out there day after day and to thank you for doing same.

Wow - I love you.

Thank you for recognizing some of the things we go through

again

and again

and again...

Oct 14 08 09:38 pm Link

Model

V A L F

Posts: 2374

Máncora, Piura, Peru

awwwwwwwww smile

Oct 14 08 09:39 pm Link

Model

Elizabeth Claret

Posts: 56038

Yelm, Washington, US

Don't forget the physical rigors of actually modeling...

I admire photographers who attempt to make businesses for themselves. You have to put aside your art, work in the confines of what's asked of you, try to market yourself....

Weddings...

Ugh.

Not to mention training yourself and spending ridiculous amounts of money on equipment...

Oh, yeah, and you have all the physical rigors of climbing all over shit and trying to get good angles and shots...

Oct 14 08 09:39 pm Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

What about photographers?  without us there would be no models smile

Oct 14 08 09:40 pm Link

Photographer

S de Varax

Posts: 7313

London, England, United Kingdom

big_smile good post

Oct 14 08 09:43 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

K E S L E R wrote:
What about photographers?  without us there would be no models smile

True.  But without them, we would be photographing trees.

A tree, unlike a model, faces no rejection based solely on its look or its attributes that it cannot change or control.

Oct 14 08 10:00 pm Link

Model

Lithuanian import

Posts: 255

Phoenix, Arizona, US

gives me inspiration to keep going...

Oct 14 08 10:03 pm Link

Photographer

Random Guy68

Posts: 617

Cave Junction, Oregon, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:

True.  But without them, we would be photographing trees.

No body liked my "Rocks on the beach" photos, they seem to love the beautiful women I shoot though.  Great thread, let's hear it for the models ! ! !

Oct 14 08 10:08 pm Link

Photographer

Joe Mtz

Posts: 424

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I second the motion. I thank you for being optimistic and professional.

Joe

Oct 14 08 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Of course we're only talking about the non-flaking kind.

Oct 14 08 10:11 pm Link

Model

charlie124

Posts: 60

BRONX, New York, US

nice post....

Oct 14 08 10:12 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

rp_photo wrote:
Of course we're only talking about the non-flaking kind.

Don't go there.

We are talking about the kind that put themselves out there day after day after day with heroic perseverance and stoic determination.

Oct 14 08 10:14 pm Link

Model

P I X I E

Posts: 35440

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

rp_photo wrote:
Of course we're only talking about the non-flaking kind.

Can we keep it positive, just for once?

Oct 14 08 10:16 pm Link

Photographer

Knight Photographic

Posts: 819

Boston, Massachusetts, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:

Don't go there.

We are talking about the kind that put themselves out there day after day after day with heroic perseverance and stoic determination.

...The ones who rock our world and make everything we do have meaning and substance and we're like "Damn, I wish I were that cool!" big_smile

Oct 14 08 10:16 pm Link

Model

Immortality

Posts: 469

Viborg, Midtjylland, Denmark

Wow. This I have NEVER seen here on MM, especially not from a photographer.

I've only ever seen "OMG HE/SHE FLAKED" or similar threads saying how models are incompetent and have a low IQ.

I really, really like this thread.

Oct 14 08 10:16 pm Link

Model

Immortality

Posts: 469

Viborg, Midtjylland, Denmark

rp_photo wrote:
Of course we're only talking about the non-flaking kind.

Thanks mr. Positive.

Oct 14 08 10:17 pm Link

Model

Immortality

Posts: 469

Viborg, Midtjylland, Denmark

K E S L E R wrote:
What about photographers?  without us there would be no models smile

I've seen quite a few threads saluting photographers. Never seen a thread like this that salutes the models.

Oct 14 08 10:18 pm Link

Photographer

Terry Osterhout

Posts: 662

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Here here, without them, we'd all have nature photographs, pets and sunsets...

Models do indeed deserve a lot of credit. It is not just about looking beautiful and smiling... It is work, it is a craft, and it requires skill, talent, personality and charisma...

Thank you models for making our work look so good!!!~

Oct 14 08 10:19 pm Link

Photographer

Knight Photographic

Posts: 819

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Immortality wrote:
Wow. This I have NEVER seen here on MM, especially not from a photographer.

I've only ever seen "OMG HE/SHE FLAKED" or similar threads saying how models are incompetent and have a low IQ.

I really, really like this thread.

Models rock and that's a fact.
We as photographer really sit behind the camera and in front of the computer screen but it would be all for nothing without that so very essential element. I know I've been blessed, and there's alot of photographers who feel the same way, they're just no squeaky wheel about it...

Oct 14 08 10:20 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

Digital Fantastique wrote:
Here here, without them, we'd all have nature photographs, pets and sunsets...

Models do indeed deserve a lot of credit. It is not just about looking beautiful and smiling... It is work, it is a craft, and it requires skill, talent, personality and charisma...

Thank you models for making our work look so good!!!~

Its actually more than that.

Models must literally put themselves --- their physical look -- on the line every time they head to a casting.  They can be brilliant.  They can be funny.  They can be a great person.  They can even be beautiful or handsome.  They can sing, dance, or play piano like Mozart.  But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

Oct 14 08 10:25 pm Link

Model

Alana Miles

Posts: 6459

Alma, Colorado, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:

Its actually more than that.

Models must literally put themselves --- their physical look -- on the line every time they head to a casting.  They can be brilliant.  They can be funny.  They can be a great person.  They can even be beautiful or handsome.  They can sing, dance, or play piano like Mozart.  But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

QFT.

*Big Hug*

Oct 14 08 10:27 pm Link

Photographer

Knight Photographic

Posts: 819

Boston, Massachusetts, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:
But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

?
Honestly, I don't think that's fair. People are on this "look" thing as if there is only one form of meaningful photography, but there are myriads of different looks to suit different scenarios. Ruling people out seems more like a lack of imagination...hopefully, I understood this correctly...

Oct 14 08 10:29 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Immortality wrote:

Thanks mr. Positive.

I have much to be thankful for as far as the great models I have worked with, especially the ones who gave me a chance early on.

While I would never call any one model my Muse, I enjoy the "Muse collective" which includes models I have worked with regularly throughout.

Oct 14 08 10:30 pm Link

Model

Ryan Diezel

Posts: 4

Orange, California, US

Wow my hat is off to someone that actually recognizes us for what we do.   Not for what we can do for them.  Thank you.

Oct 14 08 10:33 pm Link

Model

Ryan Diezel

Posts: 4

Orange, California, US

Wow my hat is off to someone that actually recognizes us for what we do.   Not for what we can do for them.  Thank you.

Oct 14 08 10:33 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

Ryan Diezel wrote:
Wow my hat is off to someone that actually recognizes us for what we do.   Not for what we can do for them.  Thank you.

You are welcome.

Twice!  smile

Oct 14 08 10:36 pm Link

Model

Kindra Marie

Posts: 2089

San Diego, California, US

thank you for such a nice thread smile

Oct 14 08 10:37 pm Link

Model

Danasaurus Rex

Posts: 125

Buffalo, New York, US

You rock!

Oct 14 08 10:39 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

One model I have worked with a lot recently will call whenever she sees a unique shooting opporunity in her neighborhood, such as when Hurricane Ike debris and construction equipment, or if I come across a new location or prop I know she'll be all over it.

That's my kind of model.

https://www.richardsfault.com/2008/09.17-IkeRecovery/01.jpg

Oct 14 08 10:40 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:
But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

Knight Photographic wrote:
?
Honestly, I don't think that's fair. People are on this "look" thing as if there is only one form of meaningful photography, but there are myriads of different looks to suit different scenarios. Ruling people out seems more like a lack of imagination...hopefully, I understood this correctly...

If the client wants a model with really "large blue eyes" then, it does not matter if the model has gorgeous full lips, lovely hair, and a fantastic jaw line.  It is very unlikely (not impossible -- just very unlikely) that the model will be selected if she does not have, subjectively "large blue eyes"

Now, s/he has to get up tomorrow and do it again.

Oct 14 08 10:43 pm Link

Model

Leimie

Posts: 267

Idaho Falls, Idaho, US

K E S L E R wrote:
What about photographers?  without us there would be no models smile

We can always take self-portraits, that's what a tripod is for! smile lol

Oct 14 08 10:43 pm Link

Model

Miss Munroe

Posts: 54

Akron, Ohio, US

If it werent for the great photographers, (like you guys) Im sure alot of us would have given up a long time ago!! Thanks so much!!

Oct 14 08 10:45 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

Kindra Marie wrote:
thank you for such a nice thread smile

You are welcome.

Thank you.

Oct 14 08 10:45 pm Link

Model

Another Model

Posts: 211

Wuhan, Hubei, China

murphy,

You get the fu@king high-five of the year!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 14 08 10:46 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

ForSaleByOwner wrote:
murphy,

You get the fu@king high-five of the year!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks.

Oct 14 08 10:48 pm Link

Model

Elley S

Posts: 1153

Los Angeles, California, US

Cheers to you for the understanding and support!  big_smile

Oct 14 08 10:49 pm Link

Photographer

AUTONOMY

Posts: 3674

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:

Its actually more than that.

Models must literally put themselves --- their physical look -- on the line every time they head to a casting.  They can be brilliant.  They can be funny.  They can be a great person.  They can even be beautiful or handsome.  They can sing, dance, or play piano like Mozart.  But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

Allright, what did she do?

Oct 14 08 10:51 pm Link

Model

XENA KAI

Posts: 841

Los Angeles, California, US

This is the nicest thing a photographer has ever said about models. Us models are taken for granted, we are never good enough for the world.

Oct 14 08 10:53 pm Link

Photographer

MurphyMurphy Studios

Posts: 2315

Denver, Colorado, US

MurphyMurphy Studios wrote:
Its actually more than that.

Models must literally put themselves --- their physical look -- on the line every time they head to a casting.  They can be brilliant.  They can be funny.  They can be a great person.  They can even be beautiful or handsome.  They can sing, dance, or play piano like Mozart.  But, if they don't have the "look" required, none of it matters.

THAT must be hard to internalize and rationalize.

AUTONOMY wrote:
Allright, what did she do?

Huh?

Oct 14 08 10:54 pm Link