Forums > Newbie Forum > I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA

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Paul de Brown

Posts: 1

Denver, Colorado, US

I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

Nov 16 09 12:41 pm Link

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Nadirah B

Posts: 28521

Los Angeles, California, US

The Pauly wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

No







lol No seriously, you should read the rules of the forum before posting so people won't rip you a fresh one for not doing so. Congrats!

Nov 16 09 12:44 pm Link

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glamour pics

Posts: 6095

Los Angeles, California, US

The Pauly wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

Is Wilhelmina of PA an actual office of Wilhelmina? Or is it one of these independent agencies, to which Wilhelmina licenses the use of the Wilhelmina name? What were the financial arrangements and obligation when you signed?

Nov 16 09 12:49 pm Link

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Flex Photography

Posts: 6471

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

glamour pics wrote:

Is Wilhelmina of PA an actual office of Wilhelmina? Or is it one of these independent agencies, to which Wilhelmina licenses the use of the Wilhelmina name? What were the financial arrangements and obligation when you signed?

It's just an "affiliate" that can use their name, but gouges big bucks!
The answers are in this thread! https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=519130

Very important that you read it! If you have already signed, & can't back out, it's likely gonna cost you big bucks! sad

Nov 17 09 01:12 pm Link

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Yves Duchamp- Homme

Posts: 3212

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Welcome to MM!

Nov 17 09 01:30 pm Link

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The_Queen_of_Hearts

Posts: 7

Mount Holly, New Jersey, US

Jan 06 10 05:02 pm Link

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TerrysPhotocountry

Posts: 4649

Rochester, New York, US

Sara Lauren wrote:
Check out this: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain … ml#c495685

If he signed with them already? This is to late for him!

Jan 06 10 05:06 pm Link

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stacey211

Posts: 77

New York, New York, US

congrats.

Jan 06 10 05:09 pm Link

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Flex Photography

Posts: 6471

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

stacey211 wrote:
congrats.

You are congratulating him for being scammed? Read more than just the title.

Jan 06 10 05:26 pm Link

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c_d_s

Posts: 7771

Lubbock, Texas, US

Condolences.

Jan 06 10 06:04 pm Link

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MOPP

Posts: 343

Phoenix, Arizona, US

You got suckered, sucker...  wink

Jan 06 10 06:11 pm Link

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Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

The Pauly wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.

...

i can take my career to the next level.

Be careful which level you aspire for. It may not be the level you expected. wink

Jan 06 10 06:16 pm Link

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Marc Rosebeck

Posts: 2281

Albany, New York, US

The Pauly wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

1st post is a big Ooooopsieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Jan 06 10 06:18 pm Link

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ALL PRO PHOTO

Posts: 202

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

If you have a legitimate complaint I would suggest you contact State Attorney General Tom Corbett. If you have been promised paid work or not been paid for example, he may be be able to recover funds /sign up fees on your behalf. If the Agency you are complaining about is located in Pennsylvania;



Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General
16th Floor, Strawberry Square
Harrisburg, PA 17120



Make sure you put the name of the individual and agency you are complaining about at the top of the letter.

Mar 20 10 04:26 am Link

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ALL PRO PHOTO

Posts: 202

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Mar 20 10 04:33 am Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Mar 20 10 05:24 am Link

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Marc Damon

Posts: 6562

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

There are several threads here about that particular agency being anything from a portfolio mill to an outright scam. Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay them to sign you, put you on their website, print comp cards, get photos for your portfolio, and take their modeling classes? How much of those expenses did you actually earn back with modeling jobs obtained thru them?

Mar 20 10 10:25 am Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Note that this is a "middle-aged" thread.

Mar 20 10 10:29 am Link

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Marc Damon

Posts: 6562

Biloxi, Mississippi, US

rp_photo wrote:
Note that this is a "middle-aged" thread.

Yes, but I would say the warnings are still valid unless someone can provide some sot of evidence that Willy PA has changed significantly.

Mar 20 10 10:39 am Link

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Britt C

Posts: 2

Rochester, New York, US

Yea, I got an email to come for an interview with Willi PA.


Not goin if it's a scam.

Apr 27 10 05:23 pm Link

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B R E N N A N

Posts: 4247

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

this thread regarding Willy of PA popped up just today even:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … age=1#last

Apr 27 10 05:27 pm Link

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Aswald

Posts: 3471

Detroit, Michigan, US

Britt C wrote:
Yea, I got an email to come for an interview with Willi PA.


Not goin if it's a scam.

It is.

Apr 27 10 05:28 pm Link

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B R E N N A N

Posts: 4247

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Britt C wrote:
Yea, I got an email to come for an interview with Willi PA.


Not goin if it's a scam.

Its not a scam per se, in that they do operate legally, but it is a complete rip off

Apr 27 10 05:29 pm Link

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fatuma kamara

Posts: 2

Paterson, New Jersey, US

how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

Jul 29 10 05:51 am Link

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Fotographia Fantastique

Posts: 17339

White River Junction, Vermont, US

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

Type 'wilhemina' and 'scam' into Google.
See what comes up.

Jul 29 10 05:55 am Link

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Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

From what I know, which isn't much, you should never have to pay up front. In a REAL agency, you pay for the work, not to get work.

Jul 29 10 05:59 am Link

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Marc-Antoine Astier

Posts: 290

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

huh...

Welcome anyway?

Jul 29 10 06:50 am Link

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Michael McGowan

Posts: 3829

Tucson, Arizona, US

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

An agency in Ohio called Z Models was shut down by the state attorney general because it operated just like Willi-PA. It's called a "portfolio mill." They get kickbacks from the photo shoots and never get the models much, if any, work.

Agencies are supposed to make money FOR models, not from them.

Jul 29 10 06:57 am Link

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David Sheldrick

Posts: 719

London, England, United Kingdom

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

lol

Jul 29 10 07:06 am Link

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Flex Photography

Posts: 6471

Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

You're going to be an expert on scams very soon! You are inviting them all to you, by displaying your email, AIM, and Yahoo Messenger on your profile!! It is visible to the whole world, and gives the scammers the green light to go after you! Stongly advise you remove them from your profile!

Jul 29 10 11:54 am Link

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K_G

Posts: 2930

Detroit, Michigan, US

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

Stick around MM....read....learn.

www.newmodels.com - best website on the industry ever! smile

Best of luck.

Jul 29 10 04:12 pm Link

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Darren Sermon

Posts: 1139

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

If you have to pay for a shoot with an agency it's a scam.  In a real agency you get paid to do work for them.

Jul 29 10 05:08 pm Link

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S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Pauly DE Brown wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

you know thats not the same company as willie in NYC right?...they only license the name, right?

Jul 29 10 05:10 pm Link

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KarolinaVon

Posts: 529

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

B R E N N A N wrote:

Its not a scam per se, in that they do operate legally, but it is a complete rip off

+1 ; .. and I love Breeny, soooo. big_smile

Jul 29 10 05:11 pm Link

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S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

fatuma kamara wrote:
how is it a scam.....you guys dnt know wth your talking about the only thing they asked for is that you pay for your photo shoot and if you have done a proffesional shoot with in the last 3month you take the photos to them and if they like them you dnt have to pay for the shot and if you guys are not sure call the main office in new york!!

willie in PA has nothing to do with willie in NYC...

how do i know?, i am well familiar with the NYC agencies.

Jul 29 10 05:11 pm Link

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Jay Wellen men

Posts: 8

Atlanta, Georgia, US

S W I N S K E Y wrote:

willie in PA has nothing to do with willie in NYC...

how do i know?, i am well familiar with the NYC agencies.

exactly even if all the booking agents at wilhelmina NYC are complete and utter douchebags, PA is not one of their corporate offices.

Jul 29 10 05:14 pm Link

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B R E N N A N

Posts: 4247

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

KarolinaVon wrote:

+1 ; .. and I love Breeny, soooo. big_smile

big_smile *hugs

Jul 29 10 06:56 pm Link

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Jes Noelle

Posts: 3

Stratford, Connecticut, US

most of the people wilhelmina sees are those without any real headshots or professional photos. they do ask you to take professional photos because more often than not most people coming in are beginners and have absolutely nothing to show a client that would book them a legitimate job. In this industry you really do need good comp cards and headshots, sometimes it really is all about the image.

in some cases they ask them to take workshops, i've been to the workshops- all the people taking them are newbies and do not know how to pose in front of the camera, or if they're with the talent division they have very little in front of the camera skill so to speak. the classes are a nessasary for most of these people or they wouldn't ever be taken seriously. this is coming from someone with a BA in performing arts who has is wary about scams. it's really not as much of a scam as you think. Wilhelmina is also currently opening their offices. So most of this is new but they really do just want to market you in the best way possible. it's a little hard to do when you don't know enough about the industry.

also actors spend hundreds and thousands of dollars going to workshops and taking classes to improve themselves, and constantly getting new headshots, their prices really aren't that bad. their photoshoots are standard price for well done headshots and portfolio shots and so are their workshop prices. i actually have met people who were charged more. it's actually nice to have a guide to a good photography. and the photographs are very well done. You do not pay to "sign" with them as many people are saying, you pay for your photoshoot and a workshop. (which is not a bad idea, esp. for beginners).

i am satisfied. even if i did pay for workshops and photos. that's what you do anyway. it's all part of the industry. people who don't sign with wilhelmina get headshots taken (at least $600 for a good photographer and good headshots-standard NYC prices) and classes which vary ;-)

you can check out my photos if you're interested in the quality.
sidenote- i do not mean to be sassy at all just get the other side of the argument out there.

Aug 02 10 12:58 pm Link

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Jes Noelle

Posts: 3

Stratford, Connecticut, US

also you can check on wilhelmina's website (NYC, CA, etc) Wilhelmina is not a main branch but they ARE an affiliate and if you call the NYC office they will tell you the same thing.

Aug 02 10 01:00 pm Link

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kendra von beshk

Posts: 702

San Diego, California, US

Pauly DE Brown wrote:
I just signed with Wilhelmina of PA.  I have had a model mayhem account for sometime now, but with my amateur work, i didnt get to far.  I hope that with these new images and this new contract with such a good agency, i can take my career to the next level. 

Stop by my page, comment on my photo's, and if you'd like to book me for any work just email me for more information or contact Wilhelmina of PA.. Thanks!!

Paul Brown

uh oh, how much have paid so far?

Aug 02 10 01:09 pm Link