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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

(1am, didnt realise how late it was! will be back tomorrow to look x x)


Can anyone post 1 or 2 light images created with JUST bare bulbs or with umbrellas.. Im trying to figure out the possibilities of using just this type of light
I am either going to buy this kit 400/400 bowens gemini this week
http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/item/BW4717UK/
and a new lens in a couple months..

or im going to wait a few weeks and just get the 500/500 with softbox/umbrella instead of the 2 umbrella kit..
http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/item/BW4305UK/


I really want to make the right decision, and I don't want to spend an extra £200 on something which a cheaper kit could possibly create the same light as the type of images im looking to make..

(I made a thread a few days ago asking what lighting some fashion images were, but even though i love the style, Id probably not start off trying those as they all had fashion models..)

Here are some images from mm lists with variety of styles im more likely to want to try

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=9649212
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … d=10674488
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=9638847
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=8281804
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=8381746
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … d=12067126
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … d=13584209

(Ah i should have linked the forum code, nevermind lol)

If none of those kits are what i should be looking at, please post some kits which are based in the uk around the same price if possible? smile

Thanks all xx

Jan 05 10 04:25 pm Link

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Be Beautiful

Posts: 97

Phoenix, Arizona, US

all the images beside the outdoor stuff is with two lights in my port that is..

Jan 05 10 04:32 pm Link

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YnY Photography Studios

Posts: 1716

Legal, Alberta, Canada

These are the only two images I can find in my port which are done with only two lights (speedlights in this case):

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090523/23/4a18ea95f0dde_m.jpg

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090523/23/4a18eba116da6_m.jpg

Oh, neither are done with umbrellas or bare bulb though. I use my own modifiers...

Jan 05 10 04:35 pm Link

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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Be Beautiful wrote:
all the images beside the outdoor stuff is with two lights in my port that is..

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091208/16/4b1eeaa893c1c_m.jpg
This is nice, What type of lights do you use for this? smile
x

Jan 05 10 04:36 pm Link

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JandRStudios

Posts: 733

Houston, Texas, US

you can buy a 2 light kit and also purchase reflectors to add fill when need be.
you can also do wonders with one light and reflectors, the trick is practice, practice, practice.

2 lights:
https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100103/12/4b40f7b98b674_m.jpg

https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090925/20/4abd86e3e24c2_m.jpg

1 light and reflector (note light is the sun bounced with gold reflector)
https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090601/18/4a247cdf5c612_m.jpg

Jan 05 10 04:42 pm Link

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S

Posts: 21678

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I have two Alien Bees, so a lot of my work is some variation like you're looking for.  The one linked below was an umbrella from the front, and a bare bulb from the back, but my whole bottom row, and most of the rest of my work posted here, is two lights.

Hope this helps.

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090112/09/496b7915eeb28.jpg

Jan 05 10 04:47 pm Link

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Myron Watkins

Posts: 1

Detroit, Michigan, US

you can do A-LOT with just one light and a reflector

https://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/54892609.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1262740166&Signature=3Y8MZZvfExzDAesDGrMBYdmf7Jk%3D

Jan 05 10 04:48 pm Link

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Be Beautiful

Posts: 97

Phoenix, Arizona, US

StaciC wrote:

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091208/16/4b1eeaa893c1c_m.jpg
This is nice, What type of lights do you use for this? smile
x

I use some cheap alien bees!
more of my photography https://www.modelmayhem.com/israelsoutlook

Jan 05 10 04:51 pm Link

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Scott Sullivan

Posts: 1175

West Branch, Michigan, US

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/0 … 32ddaf.jpg

I used 2 lights here.

Hot light on back drop.

Overhead soft box, with Travellight 2400 strobe.

Jan 05 10 05:05 pm Link

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Gareth Dix

Posts: 331

Basel, Basel-Town, Switzerland

umbrella to the right and in front and umbrella to the rear of her on the left

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090716/15/4a5faa164a208_m.jpg

Clamshell with 2 umbrellas

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090620/17/4a3d780ee0afe_m.jpg

one light in a half umbrella camera left, bare light behind camera right

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080924/14/48da809818cae_m.jpg

umbrella camera right, hairlight camera left snooted.

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071220/20/476b1d0097b4d_m.jpg

loads more on my flickr page that have lighting explainations on each... most are done with 1 or two lights. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cham128/se … 366681154/

Jan 05 10 05:13 pm Link

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Lund Photography

Posts: 890

Puyallup, Washington, US

https://ompi.onemodelplace.com/OMP_Images/Photographer/18267/18267_p_5B81A024-3048-678A-8AB53E59BC046F71.jpg
(Bare head)

https://ompi.onemodelplace.com/OMP_Images/Photographer/18267/18267_p_6F2BE022-F2E5-4F54-C51FB7B48CEFBEEA.jpg
(35" soft white umbrella)

Single light images..

Jan 05 10 05:14 pm Link

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ARTFORMS

Posts: 571

Greenville, South Carolina, US

Two lights, both were Alien Bee 400's one umbrella and one 7 inch reflector.

https://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/JF_Artforms/MySpace%20pics/Cici073_ms.jpg

Jan 05 10 05:16 pm Link

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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Thanks!!
lovely pictures smile
Im mainly going to be staying indoors as i can't afford to get a batterypack yet


Can anyone advise on whether the first kit i linked (400/400)could create simular light to the mm example links?
Or if i should be looking at a different kind of kit?

Thanks everyone x

Jan 06 10 02:44 am Link

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DANACOLE

Posts: 10183

Oslo, Oslo, Norway

these were shot with bare bulbs and 1-2 lights...no umbrellas though..

one light
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091215/13/4b2802deaf090_m.jpg

two lights
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090925/04/4abcad1387c00_m.jpg

one light
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091101/11/4aede3cf5c19b_m.jpg

one light
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091111/02/4afa901b2069e_m.jpg

Jan 06 10 03:16 am Link

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kgreggbruce

Posts: 855

Boulder, Colorado, US

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/3052681999_0bcbcb6b23.jpg

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/3052681865_1663260723.jpg



https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/3053788804_84bf503026.jpg

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/3052683031_d199f8e0f3.jpg



https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/3243424902_19c3122d8f.jpg

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3242591881_25913baab8.jpg

Jan 06 10 04:25 am Link

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cameras_and_caffeine

Posts: 71

Groningen, Groningen, Netherlands

Almost all the links the OP has posted can be achieved with 2 lights.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/z-tox/sets … 979637019/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/z-tox/sets … 979696731/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/z-tox/sets … 104359460/

Were all achieved by using two canon flashes. You can do a lot with two flashes with umbrella's and softboxes. But I would recommend three flashes. Using three gives you way more options.

Jan 06 10 04:59 am Link

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ward

Posts: 6142

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

1- bare bulb, ProFoto.
1- shoot through umbrella for bottom fill light.

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090905/17/4aa307ed2488d.jpg

Jan 06 10 05:02 am Link

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Ivan Outerbridge

Posts: 490

Hamilton, Hamilton, Bermuda

https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080907/20/48c46e742cd67.jpg
Cross lit with two SB800 bare

Jan 06 10 05:09 am Link

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Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9225

Brooklyn, New York, US

Every photo in my port was shot with just 1 or 2 lights. Some of my recent B&W shots were done with a regular tungsten light bulb.

Jan 06 10 05:12 am Link

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Model With Camera

Posts: 1807

Huntington, New York, US

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081229/19/49599215569d2_m.jpg

1 light and something to fill.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081208/19/493db817785fd_m.jpg

1 light

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090628/10/4a47a6694017c_m.jpg

off camera flash with pocket bouncer to soften

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080119/22/4792bd50af594_m.jpg

2 lights

Jan 06 10 06:24 am Link

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Antonio Marcus

Posts: 1849

San Francisco, California, US

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090728/21/4a6fcfab4b633_m.jpg

this one is with 2 lights (2 x AB400). One with umbrella, one with grid.
The front light is with 24" silver umbrella with 1/2 CTB gel. The rear light is with lavender gel. The backdrop is charcoal grey about 3 feet behind the model.

Jan 06 10 08:13 am Link

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Nicely Disturbed

Posts: 1765

New York, New York, US

Two light setup, One high, one low. shoot through Umbrella on each.
https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3821121663_18f5ff15af.jpg

Jan 06 10 08:42 am Link

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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

DanaCole wrote:

Stunning!   What power strobes did you use on these? smile ( Trying to see if they can be lit  with a 400/400 kit

Jan 06 10 08:50 am Link

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Gareth Dix

Posts: 331

Basel, Basel-Town, Switzerland

StaciC wrote:
Thanks!!
lovely pictures smile
Im mainly going to be staying indoors as i can't afford to get a batterypack yet


Can anyone advise on whether the first kit i linked (400/400)could create simular light to the mm example links?
Or if i should be looking at a different kind of kit?

Thanks everyone x

Short answer is yes either kit will be able to do what ever you need it to... just add more bits later like a softbox, beauty dish etc. I mainly shoot with speedlites and hire bigger lights/extra equipment when I need it so you'll be fine with that kit.

Jan 06 10 08:54 am Link

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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

ward wrote:
1- bare bulb, ProFoto.
1- shoot through umbrella for bottom fill light.

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090905/17/4aa307ed2488d.jpg

Model With Camera wrote:
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081229/19/49599215569d2_m.jpg

1 light and something to fill.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081208/19/493db817785fd_m.jpg

I love these as theyre indoors and more the style i will be trying to get. Im wondering whether 500/500 is going to make much of a difference to 400/400  power.. whether i need it


Antonio Marcus wrote:
https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090728/21/4a6fcfab4b633_m.jpg

this one is with 2 lights (2 x AB400). One with umbrella, one with grid.
The front light is with 24" silver umbrella with 1/2 CTB gel. The rear light is with lavender gel. The backdrop is charcoal grey about 3 feet behind the model.

Oh wow this is really stunning!


Gareth Dix wrote:

Short answer is yes either kit will be able to do what ever you need it to... just add more bits later like a softbox, beauty dish etc. I mainly shoot with speedlites and hire bigger lights/extra equipment when I need it so you'll be fine with that kit.

Thankyou  smile so you don't think 500/500 power will be needed over 400/400?
x

Jan 06 10 09:03 am Link

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NocoJoe

Posts: 894

Seattle, Washington, US

Here are two shots I took with one light last weekend.

https://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100103/14/4b411bd99e64e.jpg

and

https://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100103/14/4b411f3bc304d.jpg

Jan 06 10 09:15 am Link

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Pelle Piano

Posts: 2312

Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden

One light with umbrella ...

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3634/3322299683_8579344fc3.jpg

Two umbrellas at a local jazzclub ...

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3637/3321988401_a9e3e276bc.jpg

Jan 06 10 09:41 am Link

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StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Awesome photos!
thanks, Any more? big_smile

And advice of whether i should go for the 400/400 geminis smile

Jan 06 10 02:22 pm Link

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Gary Blanchette

Posts: 5137

Irvine, California, US

My avatar was shot with two AB 400s.

Jan 06 10 02:27 pm Link

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JeffTabb Photography

Posts: 72

Brooklyn, New York, US

Yeah, this was shot with one speed light.
https://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn210/ffvproductions/Kwabena-Blog1-1.jpg

Jan 06 10 03:13 pm Link

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JandRStudios

Posts: 733

Houston, Texas, US

StaciC wrote:
Awesome photos!
thanks, Any more? big_smile

And advice of whether i should go for the 400/400 geminis smile

bowens are good lights, what will make a diff in your images will be the quaility of your lense and your modifiers. modifiers are expensive for the best, and inexpensive for the less quality. that being said, you can produce wonderful images with either. just practice.

Jan 06 10 03:47 pm Link

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Model With Camera

Posts: 1807

Huntington, New York, US

StaciC wrote:

ward wrote:
1- bare bulb, ProFoto.
1- shoot through umbrella for bottom fill light.

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090905/17/4aa307ed2488d.jpg

Model With Camera wrote:
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081229/19/49599215569d2_m.jpg

1 light and something to fill.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081208/19/493db817785fd_m.jpg

I love these as theyre indoors and more the style i will be trying to get. Im wondering whether 500/500 is going to make much of a difference to 400/400  power.. whether i need it


Antonio Marcus wrote:
https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090728/21/4a6fcfab4b633_m.jpg

this one is with 2 lights (2 x AB400). One with umbrella, one with grid.
The front light is with 24" silver umbrella with 1/2 CTB gel. The rear light is with lavender gel. The backdrop is charcoal grey about 3 feet behind the model.

Oh wow this is really stunning!



Thankyou  smile so you don't think 500/500 power will be needed over 400/400?
x

Both of my shots are with a 500watt tungsten light, no modifiers.

Jan 06 10 05:24 pm Link

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DG at studio47

Posts: 2365

East Ridge, Tennessee, US

Look on 'you tube' and you can see pro photographers and companies demonstrating the use of single light, two lights, three lights, one light with a reflector, etc., etc. you can see the results for yourself and its free. Just type in 'photography lighting' and you can get your answer.Most all of my stuff is with two strobes and a third strobe lighting the BG or as a hair light. take into consideration the color of the walls and ceiling if you will be shooting indoors in a regular space. best wishes! One more note--some of the 'lighting' you see is 'created' in post processing, not during the shoot.

Jan 06 10 05:30 pm Link

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DANACOLE

Posts: 10183

Oslo, Oslo, Norway

StaciC wrote:
Stunning!   What power strobes did you use on these? smile ( Trying to see if they can be lit  with a 400/400 kit

I used the profoto pro 8's for all of those shots...at about half power usually..
I think the wattage is way higher then 400 though...

but..you should be able to get some good lighting with the set you are thinking about...

Jan 06 10 05:37 pm Link