Photographer

Edward McLaughlin

Posts: 67

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I wanted to make a model's face and shoulders look like a sculpture or a Geisha, very white. Can anyone suggest what makeup or paint to use?

Sep 15 10 11:11 am Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 4132

New Castle, Pennsylvania, US

The answer really depends on the model's skin color and texture as well as your lighting. I would come to set with 3-4 options depending on the combination of the above.

What's your makeup artist's experience with body paint/fantasy makeup?

Sep 15 10 01:41 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Angie Lum

Posts: 25

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I've actually used L'oreal's True Match liquid makeup in Porcelain (W1) to turn my own face nearly white. And when I took a photo it looked white. I used a wedge sponge and applied the foundation in patting motions and set then it with translucent powder.

I've also used a MAC Pigment powder to turns someones face white.

I know there's other ways and different makeup you can use as well, but that's what I've done in the past. ^_^

Sep 15 10 01:47 pm Link

Model

Melissa Lyn

Posts: 157

Itasca, Illinois, US

Angie Lum wrote:
I've actually used L'oreal's True Match liquid makeup in Porcelain (W1) to turn my own face nearly white. And when I took a photo it looked white. I used a wedge sponge and applied the foundation in patting motions and set then it with translucent powder.

I've also used a MAC Pigment powder to turns someones face white.

I know there's other ways and different makeup you can use as well, but that's what I've done in the past. ^_^

I find that amusing. You must be rather, uh, tan if you think the W1 is "nearly white". I'm almost as pale as they come and most brands do not go NEARLY fair enough to match me. I've swatched hundreds of light foundations and compared them all. The True Match W1 is still a hair too dark for ME. I wouldn't exactly call it "nearly white". Maybe if you're medium-tan complexion but I digress.

anywho. LOL

There are lots of "white" or extremely fair foundations on the market. If you're looking to do an authentic geisha face, that actually calls for PURE white. MUFE has a pure white panstick, MAC has a pure white Face and Body foundation (pro item) but that is very sheer and won't give you enough coverage for a geisha look. Illamasqua has pure white foundations in two great formulas for a geisha look (cream foundation and in their rich foundation). Any any theatrical brand like Ben Nye will have pure white cream foundation/greasepaint makeup.

Sep 15 10 02:17 pm Link

Makeup Artist

MP Make-up Artistry

Posts: 5105

Prince George, British Columbia, Canada

Edward McLaughlin wrote:
I wanted to make a model's face and shoulders look like a sculpture or a Geisha, very white. Can anyone suggest what makeup or paint to use?

a solid flawless pure white surface is one of the most difficult to pull off perfectly... White cream based make-up and a white setting powder is what I would suggest.. ohh and hiring a pro to do it will also help... Ben Nye makes a "geisha" white cream make-up  and a white setting powder called "ultra white "
the Ben Nye cream make-up is very thick and can be applied with either a sponge or a brush... I would also suggest airbrushing a liquid white over top to get  completely even coverage...

white can look amazing if done properly, if done badly it looks like bad Halloween clown make-up.. and is a waste of time... white is very unforgiving and a skilled hand is needed when trying to pull off this look....

Edit..... this was done by me with Ben Nye's geisha white cream pot and a light coat of ultra white powder ...
no P.S . done to the image...
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/051112/03/4376060f397ee_m.jpg

Sep 15 10 02:23 pm Link

Model

Adam-Johnson

Posts: 76

Eugene, Oregon, US

if you are going for authentic looking, get Kabuki real pro white make-up. It is around $300 for the whole set.

Sep 15 10 02:24 pm Link

Model

Elfine

Posts: 44

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

I'd stay away from the L'Oreal idea...as someone else has already said you must be quite dark/tanned to see yourself as white with that shade! It was dark orange on me, now I only buy from the internet, I use Lilly Lolo in the fairest shade possible as I really do have 'geisha' skin ie. china white, but I digress...

I've had Illamasqua used on me before as part of a similar idea and it stood up quite well, the only problem was getting the stuff off! Best advice I'd offer is to choose a VERY fair model then use the best quality possible otherwise you'll end up with the halloween look as someone has pointed out smile

Best of luck!

Sep 15 10 02:55 pm Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 4132

New Castle, Pennsylvania, US

White wolfe brothers water activated base.
Airbrushed with OCC white skin.

Model has a bald cap on, so there was some touch up done to the image.

If I had to do it over again, I'd use Mehron Paradise as the base as it is a little more workable.

Note: this photograph and the work involved serves as the base for a digital project.

https://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/137/0/b/Steampunk_Geisha_Teaser_by_Battledress.jpg
https://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/153/b/a/Steampunk_Geisha_Teaser_2_by_Battledress.jpg

Sep 15 10 03:10 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Nightshade Beauty

Posts: 527

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I do geisha makeup fairly often for a performance artist, and I use one of 2 methods...
In the airbrush, MAC foundation in white works really well.
Handpainting, Kryolan Aquacolour in white also gives a pretty flawless surface and easy application.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091207/10/4b1d4f719221d_m.jpg
This is MAC white in an airbrush.
The model is african american.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100805/17/4c5b5c7b8b20b_m.jpg
MAC white applied with a sponge and set with powder to the face only.  Model is (obviously) caucasian.

W1 "kinda" works...but not really.
It can end up looking mega ashy with the wrong skin tones.

Hope this helps!

Sep 15 10 03:13 pm Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 4132

New Castle, Pennsylvania, US

.... may also want to contact MM 37900
Andrea did one of my all-time favorite Geisha images:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/061111/10/4555ff38dabf7.jpg

Sep 15 10 03:45 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Kryolan makes amazing special effects makeup as well as regular wear lines.  I have tried most of their stuff and swear by it smile

Sep 15 10 03:54 pm Link

Makeup Artist

MakeupForLattes

Posts: 390

Pullman, Washington, US

I did a spin off of kabuki theater with Ben Nye. Got some really good advice on here for that shoot, I did it last year. Go to the Ben Nye website to find a dealer in your area, Ben Nye is mostly sold at theater and fetish shops, and it is pretty affordable. Stiple it on with a cosmetic wedge and then set it with a translucent or white powder or it may melt and stray from the area where you want it to stay!

hope that helps!

Sep 15 10 05:11 pm Link

Makeup Artist

T E A G U E V I V O L O

Posts: 237

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Nightshade Beauty wrote:
I do geisha makeup fairly often for a performance artist, and I use one of 2 methods...
In the airbrush, MAC foundation in white works really well.
Handpainting, Kryolan Aquacolour in white also gives a pretty flawless surface and easy application.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091207/10/4b1d4f719221d_m.jpg
This is MAC white in an airbrush.
The model is african american.

https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100805/17/4c5b5c7b8b20b_m.jpg
MAC white applied with a sponge and set with powder to the face only.  Model is (obviously) caucasian.

W1 "kinda" works...but not really.
It can end up looking mega ashy with the wrong skin tones.

Hope this helps!

Hiya smile Above, were you talking about MAC white Face & Body foundation?


On youtube, Blanche Babcock uses a Ben Nye white creamy make-up that comes in a pot. The consistency looks very easy to work with, and the coverage is amazing.

Does anyone else have any more suggestions for white which might look more like this? https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/2375450

Sep 15 10 05:32 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Wigs and Makeup Allison

Posts: 290

Costa Mesa, California, US

You can also try Mehron's clown white lite.  It is a version of clown white makeup that is MUCH easier to apply.  I also set that with a white powder like Ben Nye's Super White.  You should be able to find Mehron brand at a theatrical supply store.
Here's a link:
http://www.mehron.com/White_Clown_Makeup_Lite_p/131.htm

Sep 15 10 06:36 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Nightshade Beauty

Posts: 527

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Teague Vivolo wrote:
Hiya smile Above, were you talking about MAC white Face & Body foundation?

Yup, that's what I use.
I've been very happy with the results, and so has my client.

For the shot you mentioned, I think there might be a little bit of post production at work there, that looks super pore-less and very very smooth...
It looks gorgeous...

Sep 15 10 10:10 pm Link

Makeup Artist

MP Make-up Artistry

Posts: 5105

Prince George, British Columbia, Canada

Teague Vivolo wrote:

Does anyone else have any more suggestions for white which might look more like this? https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/2375450

why not ask her??? she's on this site.... and easy to find.... smile

Sep 15 10 11:12 pm Link

Photographer

Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

Edward McLaughlin wrote:
I wanted to make a model's face and shoulders look like a sculpture or a Geisha, very white. Can anyone suggest what makeup or paint to use?

One option is Photoshop, simple curve adjustment of the red channel.

https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/100214/00/4b77b6d8978e1.jpg

Sep 15 10 11:30 pm Link

Model

Alice Darcy

Posts: 26

Claymont, Delaware, US

I'm a huge fan of Mehron Clown White. MAC F&B in white or similar is always useful to have around for mixing foundations, too, if you don't have anything pale enough, so it's a good investment.

Sep 16 10 12:01 am Link

Model

Ashley En-fu

Posts: 234

Los Angeles, California, US

i've always been a fan of the ben nye geisha white or clown white for kabuki looks.
(i'll prime with MAC white F&B for a base, cover with either of the ben nye creams liberally and then set with ben nye super white)
i have a friend who used to run a little Geisha photoshoot business for people (apparently it's really common? :-/) who would use that exact method.
set with a good amount of powder (and press & roll it into the cream makeup with a poof, not just blot) and a lot of sealing spray and you'll be set

Sep 24 10 01:08 am Link