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SianRJJ
Posts: 179
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom
Hello all,
I am trying to get a complete history of prosthetic make up in relation to early pioneers of the art, milestones etc., I have googled but the info i'm finding seems more oriented towards prosthetic limbs, I have also searched on here and can't seem to find anything.
If someone has a link to a factual website with this information that would be great or recommend books that would be extremely helpful
thank you
Sian
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CMMakeup
Posts: 1727
New York, New York, US
well the first film to use foam prosthetic appliances was the wizard of OZ.
before that it was cotton and wax and latex.
Most prosthetic makeup books go into a brief history in the beginning of the books. I'd look up people like dick smith, rick baker, vincent kehoe, the westmores, Jack Dawn, Jack Pierce , john chambers, william tuttle. they were really the pioneers
and more current: Ve neil, Neill Gorton, Christopher tucker, stan winston, greg connon , bill corso..i could go on and on there are to many to list.
check out Special Effects Makeup for stage and screen by Todd Debreceni AMAZING book!
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MP Make-up Artistry
Posts: 5105
Prince George, British Columbia, Canada
if you google even one or two names that Chris mentioned you'd get a wack of info... Dick Smith is one of the major pioneers... Star Wars was his baby...  Yoda he modeled after his own face... Dick is still around and is still teaching and working.. I hope to be as sharp as him when Im his age... Rick Baker was his apprentice and is now a house hold name in the industry... Kazuhiro Tsuji worked as Ricks assistant... the list of Amazing prosthetic artists goes on and on... the Effects Lab on line is chalked full of book references and also more amazing artist..
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SHDavies
Posts: 150
London, England, United Kingdom
CMMakeup wrote:
check out Special Effects Makeup for stage and screen by Todd Debreceni AMAZING book! +1 this (well, +1 everything in this comment but this especially) SUCH a useful book, and a fascinating read as well.
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BMR-MUA
Posts: 550
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Check some back issues of Make-Up Artist magazine, in each issue there is an article concerning make-up in old films. In issue #76 (Jan/Feb 2009) there is an article on Jack Pierce's make-up for Frankenstein in 1931. You also should see "Fantastic Flesh: The Art of Make-up EFX" a DVD which has segments about The Exorcist, Planet of the Apes and more.
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Lisa Berczel
Posts: 4132
New Castle, Pennsylvania, US
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SianRJJ
Posts: 179
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom
Hi
thanks for all the replies.
I have been going through old copies of MUAM and have read the Jack Pierce article - really interesting, I love that this industry is one that really encourages growth and experimentation :-)
I Have the Todd Debrecini book - I use it for a lot of reference its great and over on EffectsLab I have been told to look at a book called Making a Monster by Al Taylor and Sue Roy so i'm gonna look into that.
anyway thanks again for the replies
Sian
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Stuart Bray
Posts: 6
London, England, United Kingdom
Hi Sian I have some articles on my sites which may prove useful, and many Fangoria, Gorezone and Cinefex magazines with great info, with contemporary accounts of what went into the work on various jobs. There is a great book about the hammer makeup artists Phil Leakey & Roy Ashton: Greasepaint and Gore: The Hammer Monsters of Roy Ashton. Also, I have interviewed Walter Scneiderman ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0774092/) who did the Elephant Man (Chris Tucker created the appliances but the makeup was designed and applied by Walter with his daughter makeup artist Beryl Lerman, and he has some great anecdotes and images of his work). My sites are: http://www.learnprostheticmakeup.com/ http://www.learnmakeupeffects.com/ There is also a DVD about Jack Pierce, and a very good documentary on BBC iPlayer about horror films with Mark Gatiss (I think it is called A History Of Horror with Mark Gatiss): http://www.denofgeek.com/television/632 … ywood.html And: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vjm4v Also, a great movie about Lon Chaney is Man of 1000 Faces. It may not be a great factual resource but it catches the mood of the fanbase and the ingenuity behind the work that has led to the modern effects. I have a VHS copy of a Dick Smith programme from years ago, and it is almost certainly on DVD. I bet the MUAM site will list it. Email/message me or call/sms (UK 07798 876 387) or skype (skypename 'braybox') and I can try and get some stuff to you and help you out. Sounds like a great project. Regards Stuart
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SHDavies
Posts: 150
London, England, United Kingdom
Stuart Bray wrote:
Hi Sian
I have some articles on my sites which may prove useful, and many Fangoria, Gorezone and Cinefex magazines with great info, with contemporary accounts of what went into the work on various jobs.
There is a great book about the hammer makeup artists Phil Leakey & Roy Ashton: Greasepaint and Gore: The Hammer Monsters of Roy Ashton.
Also, I have interviewed Walter Scneiderman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0774092/) who did the Elephant Man (Chris Tucker created the appliances but the makeup was designed and applied by Walter with his daughter makeup artist Beryl Lerman, and he has some great anecdotes and images of his work).
My sites are:
http://www.learnprostheticmakeup.com/
http://www.learnmakeupeffects.com/
There is also a DVD about Jack Pierce, and a very good documentary on BBC iPlayer about horror films with Mark Gatiss (I think it is called A History Of Horror with Mark Gatiss): http://www.denofgeek.com/television/632 … ywood.html
And: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vjm4v
Also, a great movie about Lon Chaney is Man of 1000 Faces. It may not be a great factual resource but it catches the mood of the fanbase and the ingenuity behind the work that has led to the modern effects. I have a VHS copy of a Dick Smith programme from years ago, and it is almost certainly on DVD. I bet the MUAM site will list it.
Email/message me or call/sms (UK 07798 876 387) or skype (skypename 'braybox') and I can try and get some stuff to you and help you out. Sounds like a great project.
Regards
Stuart Sorry to hijack this thread, but I just had to say how much I love your mailing list tutorials - everything you've sent out has been so helpful. I'm hoping to get on one of your courses sometime next year!
Sian I hope you do take up this offer and get some more information as I'm sure it will all be absolutely fascinating
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Chelsea Dutchak
Posts: 728
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
There is a book called "The Winston Effect" about Stan Winston and it has so much information about every project he worked on and the methods he pioneered.
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Pinkerton
Posts: 134
Canton, Ohio, US
Not to nit pick but Dick Smith had nothing to do with Star Wars  You are thinking of Stuart freeborn But Dick has done so many other amazing things!!! Too many to list
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SianRJJ
Posts: 179
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom
Stuart Bray wrote:
Hi Sian
I have some articles on my sites which may prove useful, and many Fangoria, Gorezone and Cinefex magazines with great info, with contemporary accounts of what went into the work on various jobs.
There is a great book about the hammer makeup artists Phil Leakey & Roy Ashton: Greasepaint and Gore: The Hammer Monsters of Roy Ashton.
Also, I have interviewed Walter Scneiderman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0774092/) who did the Elephant Man (Chris Tucker created the appliances but the makeup was designed and applied by Walter with his daughter makeup artist Beryl Lerman, and he has some great anecdotes and images of his work).
My sites are:
http://www.learnprostheticmakeup.com/
http://www.learnmakeupeffects.com/
There is also a DVD about Jack Pierce, and a very good documentary on BBC iPlayer about horror films with Mark Gatiss (I think it is called A History Of Horror with Mark Gatiss): http://www.denofgeek.com/television/632 … ywood.html
And: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vjm4v
Also, a great movie about Lon Chaney is Man of 1000 Faces. It may not be a great factual resource but it catches the mood of the fanbase and the ingenuity behind the work that has led to the modern effects. I have a VHS copy of a Dick Smith programme from years ago, and it is almost certainly on DVD. I bet the MUAM site will list it.
Email/message me or call/sms (UK 07798 876 387) or skype (skypename 'braybox') and I can try and get some stuff to you and help you out. Sounds like a great project.
Regards
Stuart Hi Stuart
thank you for your reply - I actually found your sites a couple of weeks ago and signed up for your online course, very informative.
I saw the Mark Gatiss programme when it was on but have downloaded it from iplayer to use for my research.
I also managed to find a copy of Fantastic Flesh dvd on ebay and am just waiting for it to arrive, I've spoken to a few people over on theeffectslab.
I will look into your book recommendations as well
thank you for your help and yes it is a thoroughly interesting subject.
Sian
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James Ryder
Posts: 273
Los Angeles, California, US
For the Phantom of the Opera (1925), Lon Chaney attached fish skin to the tip of his nose with spirit gum and stretched it under a crude bald cap made by disolving film stock in acetone and painting it on a head form. He also put egg membrane in his eyes to make them look cloudy.
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SianRJJ
Posts: 179
Sheffield, England, United Kingdom
RYDER make-up labs wrote:
For the Phantom of the Opera (1925), Lon Chaney attached fish skin to the tip of his nose with spirit gum and stretched it under a crude bald cap made by disolving film stock in acetone and painting it on a head form. He also put egg membrane in his eyes to make them look cloudy. Hi
I know about the fish skin but I didn't know about the film stock in acetone, thats interesting - do you have a website where you found that information, as this is for uni I need to double check all the facts.
Could you imagine trying to put egg membrane in someones eyes now ;-)
Sian
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Tai MUA
Posts: 784
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
RYDER make-up labs wrote:
For the Phantom of the Opera (1925), Lon Chaney attached fish skin to the tip of his nose with spirit gum and stretched it under a crude bald cap made by disolving film stock in acetone and painting it on a head form. He also put egg membrane in his eyes to make them look cloudy. Wow!!!
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Tai MUA
Posts: 784
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Stuart Bray wrote:
Hi Sian
I have some articles on my sites which may prove useful, and many Fangoria, Gorezone and Cinefex magazines with great info, with contemporary accounts of what went into the work on various jobs.
There is a great book about the hammer makeup artists Phil Leakey & Roy Ashton: Greasepaint and Gore: The Hammer Monsters of Roy Ashton.
Also, I have interviewed Walter Scneiderman (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0774092/) who did the Elephant Man (Chris Tucker created the appliances but the makeup was designed and applied by Walter with his daughter makeup artist Beryl Lerman, and he has some great anecdotes and images of his work).
My sites are:
http://www.learnprostheticmakeup.com/
http://www.learnmakeupeffects.com/
There is also a DVD about Jack Pierce, and a very good documentary on BBC iPlayer about horror films with Mark Gatiss (I think it is called A History Of Horror with Mark Gatiss): http://www.denofgeek.com/television/632 … ywood.html
And: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vjm4v
Also, a great movie about Lon Chaney is Man of 1000 Faces. It may not be a great factual resource but it catches the mood of the fanbase and the ingenuity behind the work that has led to the modern effects. I have a VHS copy of a Dick Smith programme from years ago, and it is almost certainly on DVD. I bet the MUAM site will list it.
Email/message me or call/sms (UK 07798 876 387) or skype (skypename 'braybox') and I can try and get some stuff to you and help you out. Sounds like a great project.
Regards
Stuart I can't believe I found your work today and watched one of your video then I found you here.
Love to join your class if it's not too far :'(
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Yoda he modeled after his own face... Dick is still around and is still teaching and working.. I hope to be as sharp as him when Im his age... 
You are thinking of Stuart freeborn 
