Photographer
Luke Lieu
Posts: 70
Asheville, North Carolina, US
I recently had two conversations with different models who volunteered some experiences that surprised me. So my question to model is -- have you ever foold around with a photographer during, or right after, a shoot?
Model
misszara
Posts: 6715
Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)
Photographer
Jay Edwards
Posts: 18616
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
People never fool around at the workplace. Ever.
Model
Sophia Be
Posts: 6355
Portland, Oregon, US
Yes, both during and after.
But it was with my fiance, so probably not the "dear penthouse forum" story you're looking for
Photographer
Luke Lieu
Posts: 70
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Jay Edwards wrote:
People never fool around at the workplace. Ever. No, of course not
Model
Rebecca Lawrence
Posts: 878
New York, New York, US
only when the photographer was my boyfriend
Photographer
Weldphoto
Posts: 845
Charleston, South Carolina, US
Rebecca Lawrence wrote:
only when the photographer was my boyfriend Becca would tear your heart out and eat it if you ever tried to fool around with her!!
Only former Presidents get to fool around in the work place.
Model
Rebecca Lawrence
Posts: 878
New York, New York, US
Weldphoto wrote:
Becca would tear your heart out and eat it if you ever tried to fool around with her!!
Only former Presidents get to fool around in the work place. Yep 
Model
Jem Iredale
Posts: 1769
Merrimac, Massachusetts, US
It's been more relationships with people I work with for me. Even had a groupie moment yike,
Photographer
Michael Kerrek
Posts: 1427
Orlando, Florida, US
Use the search feature, it will help you find hundreds of other identical threads. This has to come up as a thread 2+ times a week.
People interact, sometimes they like each other. It's not any different in photography, but you should still be extra mindful of professionalism.
Just because you could drive into a tree randomly doesn't mean it's ok to get in your car and head for a forest. Having a connection may happen randomly, but the time you seek to use your work as a social outlet, you've destroyed your credibility and made the rest of us look a little worse as well.
Photographer
Luke Lieu
Posts: 70
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Michael Kerrek wrote:
Use the search feature, it will help you find hundreds of other identical threads. This has to come up as a thread 2+ times a week.
People interact, sometimes they like each other. It's not any different in photography, but you should still be extra mindful of professionalism.
Just because you could drive into a tree randomly doesn't mean it's ok to get in your car and head for a forest. Having a connection may happen randomly, but the time you seek to use your work as a social outlet, you've destroyed your credibility and made the rest of us look a little worse as well. I tend to agree
Model
Miss AY
Posts: 8166
Bulqizë, Bulqizë, Albania
these threads always come off like wishful thinking.
"Dear Penthouse, I was at a shoot and I NEVER though this would happen to me...."
Model
theda
Posts: 21719
New York, New York, US
Yes.
Or no.
One of those.
Model
E e v a
Posts: 1724
Nashville, Tennessee, US
No, and I never would either. I prefer modeling to be strictly platonic. If a photographer found me sexually attractive or vice versa, it would affect the shoot, and ruin the entire point of me showing up. I know how I act around those I am attracted to, and it does not make for a confident, photogenic person. I think it would also make the photographer off his game for the shoot too.
Lastly, there is just the fact that I do not want to mix personal with business.
Model
Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Nope. Never.
I dated a photographer but we never fooled around after he took pictures of me. I wasn't really modeling then either.
Photographer
Paul Bryson Photography
Posts: 48041
Hollywood, Florida, US
Wait...you mean to tell me some people DON'T fool around with their photographers. Fucking HEATHENS! How DARE they say they're models if they don't "please" their god-like photographers! 
Photographer
Curt at photoworks
Posts: 31812
Riverside, California, US
Augustine York wrote:
these threads always come off like wishful thinking.
"Dear Penthouse, I was at a shoot and I NEVER though this would happen to me...." Usually by someone new to MM. I get the feeling they were just dying to ask the question.
Photographer
PhotographybyT
Posts: 7947
Monterey, California, US
Augustine York wrote:
these threads always come off like wishful thinking.
"Dear Penthouse, I was at a shoot and I NEVER though this would happen to me...." Who 'reads' Penthouse anyway? 
Photographer
SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
Model
Nedah Oyin
Posts: 11826
Chicago, Illinois, US
Luke Lieu wrote:
I recently had two conversations with different models who volunteered some experiences that surprised me. So my question to model is -- have you ever foold around with a photographer during, or right after, a shoot? .......
And then, upon further investigation, I come upon his only list..
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Luke Lieu wrote:
I recently had two conversations with different models who volunteered some experiences that surprised me. So my question to model is -- have you ever foold around with a photographer during, or right after, a shoot? I'm going to be really direct here: this question seems completely "GWC" to me, what purpose would the answers serve you?
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291
Posts: 11911
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
John_Robert wrote:
I'm going to be really direct here: this question seems completely "GWC" to me, what purpose would the answers serve you? On the surface it may seem very "GWC", but what if a person is just new to the whole model and/or professional photography scene and they want answers to seemingly simple questions?
For instance ... I was on a set the other day with a model who was on set as a singer that day. I asked her a question. The question is/was, if you're on a set where you are posing nude and you notice that the photographer has a bulge in their pants (or a wet spot), is that annoying or flattering? I added that this is all assuming that they don't say or do anything that is remotely close to out of line. I also added that I would not ask her or anyone else to EVER pose nude or remotely close to it.
Some would say it's "GWC" but I wasn't shooting only pictures that day (I was doing video mostly), she was fully clothed and technically she wasn't a model that day. I've only been on the "model" scene about a month and a half now (though I've been shooting pictures for a while in an attempt to be professional or working toward that goal).
In case anyone wonders, her answer was it doesn't happen much and while it would be a bit flattering and insulting, she thinks it's unprofessional (a true professional would have seen similar things enough times to where it wouldn't happen anymore).
Model
Nedah Oyin
Posts: 11826
Chicago, Illinois, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
On the surface it may seem very "GWC", but what if a person is just new to the whole model and/or professional photography scene and they want answers to seemingly simple questions?
For instance ... I was on a set the other day with a model who was on set as a singer that day. I asked her a question. The question is/was, if you're on a set where you are posing nude and you notice that the photographer has a bulge in their pants (or a wet spot), is that annoying or flattering? I added that this is all assuming that they don't say or do anything that is remotely close to out of line. I also added that I would not ask her or anyone else to EVER pose nude or remotely close to it.
Some would say it's "GWC" but I wasn't shooting only pictures that day (I was doing video mostly), she was fully clothed and technically she wasn't a model that day. I've only been on the "model" scene about a month and a half now (though I've been shooting pictures for a while in an attempt to be professional or working toward that goal).
In case anyone wonders, her answer was it doesn't happen much and while it would be a bit flattering and insulting, she thinks it's unprofessional (a true professional would have seen similar things enough times to where it wouldn't happen anymore). Ok.. That last paragraph is bullshit, and here's why..
Arousal is an involuntary response to stimuli.. It happens, and most of the time it cannot be controlled.. While it would be a bit creepy to see, the professional thing to do would be to ignore it.. I've had male models get hard-ons shooting with me.. You move on because shit happens..
She's not a model, so don't ask her questions like that and expect an accurate response..
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
On the surface it may seem very "GWC", but what if a person is just new to the whole model and/or professional photography scene and they want answers to seemingly simple questions? Well, that's the point of my question... I'm asking the original poster for their reason as anyone else's answer is simply a guess.
Model
Bon voyage
Posts: 20302
Los Angeles, California, US
Luke Lieu wrote:
I recently had two conversations with different models who volunteered some experiences that surprised me. So my question to model is -- have you ever foold around with a photographer during, or right after, a shoot? You do a really bang up job of making it obvious that you want to sleep with models.
Photographer
Eastfist
Posts: 3589
Green Bay, Wisconsin, US
Michael Kerrek wrote:
you've destroyed your credibility and made the rest of us look a little worse as well. Not necessarily. People like to make connections to things that don't actually exist because it makes being part of this whole shindig more exciting than it actually is.  That comes with the territory. OP, the frank answer is as consenting adults, whatever you and the model decide to do is between the two of you.
Photographer
artdisole
Posts: 38
Anaheim, California, US
Hey OP this is a fun topic, however I don't think you'll get any model to admit if they did fool around with a photographer.
I don't know about the male models...but I think with women they generally don't want to be perceived as a slut and as other female models chimed in, it wouldn't look professional.
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
John_Robert wrote:
Well, that's the point of my question... I'm asking the original poster for their reason as anyone else's answer is simply a guess. I can't deny that my statement was a "guess" at what the OP thought or whatever ... I just thought what you said was a little harsh considering the OP had 42 posts at the time I joined this thread. Maybe they're new to the whole photography thing. No malice intended.
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artdisole
Posts: 38
Anaheim, California, US
Nedah Oyin wrote:
Ok.. That last paragraph is bullshit, and here's why..
Arousal is an involuntary response to stimuli.. It happens, and most of the time it cannot be controlled.. While it would be a bit creepy to see, the professional thing to do would be to ignore it.. I've had male models get hard-ons shooting with me.. You move on because shit happens..
She's not a model, so don't ask her questions like that and expect an accurate response.. I'm glad you understand this. Erection doesn't mean potential sexual assault.
One time a model saw mine and commented on it, I was a little embarrassed but we had a good laugh with it. It's all about keeping a light and fun vibe.
Photographer
artdisole
Posts: 38
Anaheim, California, US
Ninja wrote:
You do a really bang up job of making it obvious that you want to sleep with models. what red-blooded, male photographer doesn't?
Photographer
john_ellis
Posts: 4375
Spokane, Washington, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
I can't deny that my statement was a "guess" at what the OP thought or whatever ... I just thought what you said was a little harsh considering the OP had 42 posts at the time I joined this thread. Maybe they're new to the whole photography thing. No malice intended. I was going to mention this in my response to you but didn't want to address all of the side reasoning/explanations in your post as I didn't see the relevance to my post.
Anyway, if you checked his profile, he states he used to be a professional photographer but changed to something else (or something to that effect). I checked his profile prior to my original question so I can't remember the exact wording.
I already stated in my original post that I was being direct, but I'm confused as to why the number of posts someone makes has anything to do with well... anything. The original poster asked a very blunt question and so did I. I just don't see why this is an issue to anyone.
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
artdesole wrote:
I'm glad you understand this. Erection doesn't mean potential sexual assault.
One time a model saw mine and commented on it, I was a little embarrassed but we had a good laugh with it. It's all about keeping a light and fun vibe. That was my whole point in asking her. Yes, I'm supposed to be and act like a professional photographer, but I've been male a lot longer than I've been a photographer and I'm sure I'll be male long after I give up the camera (if I ever do). As long as I find women attractive, it's bound to happen at any time.
The idea behind asking her isn't to get the definitive answer but to get her take. Everyone is different. I would imagine some models might walk off the set where others might take my arousal as thinking she's sexy and she'll do an even better job of modeling ... it all depends on who the model is and how they feel about these things.
The side benefits of asking were getting to know her a little bit and allowing my camera to cool a bit (my Rebel doesn't like shooting long video segments or even using live view for "long" periods of time ... the owners manual says doing it will damage it).
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
artdesole wrote:
Ninja wrote:
You do a really bang up job of making it obvious that you want to sleep with models. what red-blooded, male photographer doesn't? Me.
(required to say this since my girlfriend sometimes reads the forums)
Photographer
artdisole
Posts: 38
Anaheim, California, US
Good Egg Productions wrote:
artdesole wrote:
Ninja wrote:
You do a really bang up job of making it obvious that you want to sleep with models. what red-blooded, male photographer doesn't? Me.
(required to say this since my girlfriend sometimes reads the forums) ***Hey Ms. Girlfriend, just be glad his tools work as long as he doesn't use them on a model.****
Model
AllisonL024
Posts: 704
Los Angeles, California, US
Model
Bon voyage
Posts: 20302
Los Angeles, California, US
artdesole wrote:
what red-blooded, male photographer doesn't? Probably the ones who value getting work with professional models and wouldn't want to risk ruining their reputation. Just a guess.
Photographer
Svend
Posts: 25143
Windsor, Colorado, US
Nedah Oyin wrote:
.......
And then, upon further investigation, I come upon his only list..
My my.... Sleazy is an overwhelming understatement.
Model
Nedah Oyin
Posts: 11826
Chicago, Illinois, US
Ninja wrote:
Probably the ones who value getting work with professional models and wouldn't want to risk ruining their reputation. Just a guess. Oh, my.. Would ya look at that..
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That comes with the territory. OP, the frank answer is as consenting adults, whatever you and the model decide to do is between the two of you.