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I need someone to fall over backwards
from the height of a chair seat or table top. Not too high. What do you think would be a good way to safely break their fall? Whatever it is can be in frame. I want a 'levitation' effect without looking like they are on a pedestal, and without looking like they are going to land on their feet. I can shoot from a tripod and remove the cushion in a later photo. Something I can bring to a studio or outdoor location without too much difficulty. Aug 12 12 05:41 pm Link Don't do it until you're absolutely sure that your method of breaking the fall works. I'm a trombone player and once fell backwards in a chair off a six inch raiser onto grass. It was an hour before my thinking was clear. It's more dangerous than it seems. Have you thought of having someone catch the llama, then editing out the catcher? Another idea that comes to mind is a tampoline. But I'm not sure if you could get one close enough, and if that's even safe. Good luck, Aug 12 12 05:51 pm Link First thing that comes to mind is a mattress. But maybe my brother and I just played "stuntman" to much as kids... Aug 12 12 05:53 pm Link Wolfy4u wrote: I know. I'm having a hard time imagining something reliable. Aug 12 12 05:55 pm Link Shoot 'em at a lake, falling off a dock. Aug 12 12 05:58 pm Link Maybe the pedestal technique is best, combined with a fan or two for hair and clothing. Aug 12 12 05:58 pm Link PhillipM wrote: I thought of that. or my pool. But only get one take, then. Aug 12 12 05:59 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: You're in LA.. There must be more than one stuntman company you can contact for info. and the deflating pads they use in falls. IF you want to go to that expense... Aug 12 12 06:03 pm Link 12' - 14' trampoline. Without that sissy net. Aug 12 12 06:03 pm Link Good Egg Productions wrote: My neighbor has one in his yard. Maybe I should go say hi. Aug 12 12 06:05 pm Link Falling into water is a really dumb idea. Water does not compress and is NOT a shock absorber. Professionally they use large stiff foam blocks (acrobats and tumblers) or taped shut empty corrugated cardboard boxes (stunt men short falls) or air bags (long fall). Aug 12 12 06:08 pm Link KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote: Those are for really high falls. Last shoot I was at that required a stuntman to fall backwards they used cardboard boxes. Aug 12 12 06:10 pm Link Maybe talk to someone who owns a gymnastics studio or gym. The one we used to go to had tons of equipment used to break falls during practice. Some skate parks and parkour gyms also have foam pits used for training. You are in LA right. http://tempestacademy.com/facility Aug 12 12 06:21 pm Link I required about the same height fall for a video. Had a set of closed cell work place floor mats and a set of open cell 2" foam 3x6 sheets. Two layers of close cell provided a solid cushion and two layers of the 2" open cell slowed the speed down. The actor had no problems falling with force on that combination. http://www.harborfreight.com/media/cata … _14950.jpg Aug 12 12 06:44 pm Link What about one of those air bounce rental places? Like what you see at kids birthday partys? Maybe they have something that is more like a big flat dealio? Aug 12 12 07:01 pm Link Greg Holt Photography wrote: +1 Good Egg Productions wrote: That's a negligence causing bodily harm advice, unless you were sarcastic... Aug 12 12 07:27 pm Link Aug 12 12 07:32 pm Link What you're talking about IS A STUNT. It wouldn't be safe for an average person to attempt. 9 times out of 10, an average person would be okay. It's the 1 time out of 10 you have to worry about. Hire a person with the proper training, have INSURANCE because there is always the possibility of injury, hire someone who can provide all the necessary safety equipment. This usually would be done with a thick tumbling pad. Aug 12 12 07:35 pm Link you have two solutions: (a) go with the cardboard boxes - they work really well (b) get a judo exponent to teach the model how to break a backwards fall - it is actually a very simple skill to acquire and takes about 10 mins to learn. If you learn judo, it is the very first thing that is taught (breaking a forwards fall is the second thing). Aug 13 12 07:05 am Link What about a pile (maybe 3 deep) of air mattresses? Aug 13 12 01:08 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Well? Aug 13 12 01:13 pm Link I'd make sure your insurance is current. Aug 13 12 01:15 pm Link I would just place something like a 3 foot narrow board on 2 blocks in front of a white background and have the model position herself on it as far on the edge as possible to see what that looks like. Falling backwards and not landing right can be slightly dangerous or cause some unwanted soreness/pain. Aug 13 12 01:23 pm Link Sam Taylor-Wood did a whole series and she used wire and harnesses. Aug 13 12 01:37 pm Link MMDesign wrote: I want the hair to trail the falling head, not lead it. Probably would use a fan. Aug 13 12 01:50 pm Link Rent crash pads from a gymnastics school. Aug 13 12 04:25 pm Link a matrass (or 2) should be just fine look for a model who has experience with this they actually did falling shots on ANTM once, and that was from quite high I know the endresult isn't what you mean, but it's just an example of girls jumping and falling from something quite high to produce a shot . see if you can find the episode on youtube to see how they arranged everything with the cushion Aug 13 12 04:32 pm Link yep mattress sounds good...Or thick piece of foam? Aug 13 12 04:38 pm Link You also have all the range of "levitation" that rope riggers can offer. Aug 13 12 04:57 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Contact Anais MM # 1122691 she did it for me landing on a futon. She set it up herself and performed magnificently. Truly an innovative Lady to work with. Aug 13 12 06:01 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Air mattress. Aug 13 12 08:33 pm Link Just be careful. Even with something to break their fall, if they hit the wrong way, they can be injured. No film studio would do something like this without a stuntman or a stunt coordinator to be sure it was all planned safely. I know you haven't got the budget for that, but think it all out carefully. There is a great potential for serious injury. Aug 13 12 09:30 pm Link MC Photo wrote: +2 I like the idea of more than one. I'd also try to find somebody small and youngish and keep them slightly under inflated. The mattresses that is. Aug 13 12 09:42 pm Link Mattresses (air or otherwise), trampolines, etc... they all have the potential for someone to "miss" and smack his/her head on the floor. You need something purpose-built. Maybe a pole vaulting "pit"? Make sure that your liability insurance is paid up before you try it. A haphazard shoot isn't worth fucking up someone's brain. Aug 13 12 09:47 pm Link natural beauties of qld wrote: 1+ Aug 14 12 09:41 am Link Eric Liffmann wrote: Don't stack air mattresses. The force of the fall will tend to scatter them, and your model may wind up landing on the floor/ground. Aug 14 12 09:54 am Link Black Dog Studios RI wrote: She is only falling 18 to 28 inches and a queen size air mattress is 9X52X80 ". Aug 14 12 11:19 am Link Witha bit of PP, wire-harness-and-a-fan combo probably gives you the best results with at most safety - unless you wanna pass for a documentary photographer recording a real event as it occured. Have fun. Share the pictures if are able to. Aug 14 12 02:02 pm Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: When I was a cheerleader I used those huge gym mats to fall on. Sometimes gyms will let you rent the mat. Aug 14 12 02:08 pm Link Vector One Photography wrote: If falling into water were that dangerous, no one would ever be able to jump into or dive into water. The OP is talking about 3 or 4 feet, not 10 meters. Aug 14 12 02:12 pm Link |