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Dear Shy Photographers!
Hi. Breathe. Hi again. No, but seriously. It's not just the nudity, (or is it?) that makes you choke on your words? It's not just insecurity about your work (or is it?) that makes you not give any (or hardly any) feedback, is it? I've encountered a few 'shy' people who just were so terrified of doing anythin wrong, upsetting the model (in that case me) in some way, or calling body parts by ...well, not what I'd call them. For example, I shot with a lovely, very decent hobbyist the other week, and he, like many at some point said 'hold that' and 'do that again'. No biggie. I do. He's not happy but can't say what exactly I'm not replicating to the wanted pose. He shows me two images, pretty much the same pose, except there's a nipple (yeah mine!) in one of them. So I look at him and go 'so you want that pose, but with the nipple exposed?' . I think he was close to fainting at that point. Just from the 'N' word. Yup, it's what he wanted, but couldn't say it. Dears. It's okay. I appreciate you wanting to be respectful. But it's a little like when going to the doctor, or the butcher: if you don't know your parts, or you're too timid to call them by their names (or the names you've agreed upon, if it's really awkward) you'll be cooking stew instead of steak, and you'll be taking home ointment for hemorrhoids instead of eyedrops. K? ETA: The gentleman in question, after we chatted about, you know, body parts and respect and stuff, had indeed the gumption to strap me into a nice waist cincher without problems. Again Dec 07 12 02:48 pm Link Eurocat wrote: Eeek! Dec 07 12 03:00 pm Link Dec 07 12 03:05 pm Link Well, I've been known to have issues with communication... I'm far more visual than verbal... Sometimes I'm reduced to grunting and waiving my hand vaguely in the direction of the body part that needs to be moved/adjusted. Luckily, I usually have an assistant available who will translate for me to the model... It isn't elegant, but it seems to get the job done... Dec 07 12 03:05 pm Link -B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote: Dec 07 12 03:17 pm Link TrianglePhoto wrote: I take that over a guy nearly fainting upon the word 'nipple'. Dec 07 12 03:18 pm Link TrianglePhoto wrote: Awesome. Why am I imagining you dropping the shoulder of your t-shirt and exposing a nipple to instruct the model? Dec 07 12 03:18 pm Link LOL, Speaking as a hobbyist, I readily admit that models of your caliber are a little (more than a little) intimidating to a hobbyist. It sounds like you handled it with generosity and understanding, bravo! Dec 07 12 03:24 pm Link Isn't this problem what laser pointers were designed to overcome Dec 07 12 03:25 pm Link ForeverFotos wrote: Oh God no! I tried that once and my cat went ballistic and scratched the shit out of the models, well, ya know, can I say this word here? nipples . Dec 07 12 03:27 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: That's why I don't allow cats in my studio LOL Dec 07 12 03:29 pm Link I'm not shy! I have photographed more than nipples. Dec 07 12 03:32 pm Link ForeverFotos wrote: I bet you'd make an exception for Eurocats. Dec 07 12 03:33 pm Link Eurocat wrote: I think I want to marry you when I grow up! Dec 07 12 03:33 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: you're right, but.......for all others....... Dec 07 12 03:35 pm Link I take a very hands on approach. j/k Dec 07 12 03:36 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: *sigh* not soon enough. Dec 07 12 03:39 pm Link Gabby57 wrote: *blush* Dec 07 12 03:40 pm Link lol - too funny Eurocat! I know when I started shooting models it took me a little while to get used to communicating... but that was only because I was used to shooting dance competitors in action. Dec 07 12 03:45 pm Link Lovely stuff. I find that I'm still shy when working with any women...no matter how much clothing is involved. But then again, I'm just as shy to ask ANYONE to work with me! But I guess it really does seem funny from the other side. Thanks for your insight. ~Q. Dec 07 12 03:46 pm Link Rays Fine Art wrote: I has warm fuzzy. Dec 07 12 03:48 pm Link Eurocat wrote: Dec 07 12 03:48 pm Link ForeverFotos wrote: *blinks* Dec 07 12 03:49 pm Link I'm fortunate? 30yrs in medicine, massage therapist, artist.......I might do a double take on the license at some point, then forge ahead with "correct anatomical" language. Please tilt right so that the light can profile your nipples and breasts! fantastic!, now bring your knees to your chest--oops, left breast popped out! please push that back in. thanks....btw, lovely labia..........."Soft Kitty, warm Kitty, little ball of fur................. Dec 07 12 03:52 pm Link Eurocat wrote: You are exceptional, are you not ? Dec 07 12 03:52 pm Link Gabby57 wrote: Ironically, experienced, professional models are often going to be BETTER prepared for such situations, and while some intimidation might be natural, they are also frequently able to not only shrug it off but be helpful, far more helpful, than someone with less experience. Dec 07 12 04:02 pm Link Rays Fine Art wrote: Eurocat wrote: Its just gas... it will pass in time Dec 07 12 04:16 pm Link ForeverFotos wrote: *purrrrr** Dec 07 12 04:17 pm Link What a beautiful Original Post. So nice to read something like that for a change. Dec 07 12 04:24 pm Link Enjoyed that OP immensely. Dec 07 12 04:30 pm Link Dec 07 12 04:30 pm Link I'm probably more shy than most everyone else. It's hard to know what will or will not be deemed disrespectful, especially as a newby ... But there is a difference between being shy and unable to communicate. I had to learn how, too, as it didn't come naturally. For me, it was even harder to say some things because I wasn't shooting nudes. I turned the corner on a day when I told a model I wanted her to lose her bra straps. She opted to take the whole thing off. Thank you for this bit of "advice" though. I will put it to good use. Dec 07 12 04:30 pm Link I've only encountered...awkward situations a couple times. Once was quite long ago. I was nervous (and still a college student!) and thankfully, the young lady I was working with was very out-front, bold even, and took the lead. Another was more recent. I told a clothed model that while I, as an average guy, didn't really mind being able to see up her skirt, it may not have been what she was going for. She handled it with aplomb. I think women are a bit more comfortable with themselves than us guys are with them. Dec 07 12 04:32 pm Link I feel much better now. I am not the only spazz Dec 07 12 04:45 pm Link The only way to help a photographer overcome his shyness is to let him (or her) face his shyness head on! (lol) Dec 07 12 04:47 pm Link In pointing out a nude picture of you I accidentally touched the computer screen ... I kinda feel like I should send you flowers now. Where should I send them Dec 07 12 04:55 pm Link Eurocat wrote: nipples? Dec 07 12 04:56 pm Link -B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
Dec 07 12 05:21 pm Link My first female nude exposure,was when I was sixteen years old at a life drawing class in Paris....Sixty some years later I find some models are perfectly comfortable being nude and other feel "naked" and vulnarable being "nude". I feel I have to adjust my choice of words according to their feeling being without clothe. No big deal.... Dec 07 12 05:29 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: *taps foot* Dec 07 12 05:33 pm Link |