Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > please help me, skin probem!!!!

Photographer

rinaldosata photography

Posts: 19

London, England, United Kingdom

Hi everyone,
I shot this picture and I m now retouching it... but i have a big problem: How can i make the skin smooth and uniform color??
I already removed the rincles and imperfections, but now in the skin the are some small colour difference that make look the model (client) very old!
I don t think frequency separation can be helpful here because i tried already, so what shoud I do?
Im in a hurry because i have to deliver the picture soon to the client but i want to solve the skin problem... i m so sad sad i don t know what to do i watched hundreds of tutorials but none answer my question

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtywn8rrm0393 … 8.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m9mtcimc3cjlo … i.jpg?dl=0

I would like to achieve something like this in terms of texture, will it be possible??

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tgkf7qu4ne6q … 0.png?dl=0

Nov 29 14 06:46 pm Link

Photographer

Carl Herbert

Posts: 387

Bellevue, Washington, US

Nov 29 14 07:54 pm Link

Retoucher

Cole Bettelyoun

Posts: 635

Martin, South Dakota, US

wished i kept my copy as i did a try on your image a day ago but i guess it was taken down. If you are trying to get the results from the image you want Dodge and Burn is the way to go.

Edit: my try was still up on the host site. Mine was a little more subtle.

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l159/TheConArtist_2006/_DSC0237.jpg~original

Nov 29 14 09:06 pm Link

Photographer

Tulack

Posts: 836

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

Do you have RAW?

Nov 29 14 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

mophotoart

Posts: 2118

Wichita, Kansas, US

you asked for advise,  critique...ok...a beauty ...and the intensity of the detail is more for a gritty guy thing...my opinion..do not do macro detail with women and intense light...Mo

Nov 29 14 09:40 pm Link

Photographer

Colin Ackerman

Posts: 121

Alacant, Valencia, Spain

Use freq sep with a radius of 4 or 5 for that image. Go to the low freq layer and use either gaussian blur or motion blur selectively to smooth out the variations in the skin tone. If yu still have problems send me a private message and I will try to help.
Regards Colin

Nov 30 14 01:47 am Link

Photographer

Tulack

Posts: 836

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

Nov 30 14 03:47 am Link

Retoucher

NorCal Retoucher

Posts: 126

San Francisco, California, US

.....

Nov 30 14 05:32 am Link

Photographer

VMTPhotography

Posts: 42

Burlington, Ontario, Canada

One specific technique won't solve all the problems on this image.

Here is a quick 10 minute edit using my laptop trackpad

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47495173/ModelMayhem/julia%20livelli.jpg

Nov 30 14 07:04 am Link

Photographer

rinaldosata photography

Posts: 19

London, England, United Kingdom

Bettelyoun wrote:
wished i kept my copy as i did a try on your image a day ago but i guess it was taken down. If you are trying to get the results from the image you want Dodge and Burn is the way to go.

Edit: my try was still up on the host site. Mine was a little more subtle.

https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l159/TheConArtist_2006/_DSC0237.jpg~original

you did an amazing job!! very natural and with a uniform skin and skintone
where you did dodge and burn? i thought dodge and burn was just to increase the contrasts and light and shadows....how did you remove the clor spots from the forehead? hmm

Nov 30 14 10:15 am Link

Photographer

rinaldosata photography

Posts: 19

London, England, United Kingdom

Tulack wrote:
Do you have RAW?

hello smile
here it is the raw file smile

thank you!!!

Nov 30 14 10:21 am Link

Photographer

Tulack

Posts: 836

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

rinaldosata photography wrote:
hello smile
here it is the raw file smile

thank you!!!

Where?

Nov 30 14 10:31 am Link

Retoucher

Cole Bettelyoun

Posts: 635

Martin, South Dakota, US

rinaldosata photography wrote:
you did an amazing job!! very natural and with a uniform skin and skintone
where you did dodge and burn? i thought dodge and burn was just to increase the contrasts and light and shadows....how did you remove the clor spots from the forehead? hmm

Thanks. I did Dodge and Burn to remove the imperfections i seen, yes it could be used to Contour also but also for smoothing the skin. Then used a Hue and Saturation to remove the color discoloration that was left behind. Some minor Healing and Cloning, that was about it.

Nov 30 14 10:34 am Link

Digital Artist

AbbeyMarie

Posts: 71

San Antonio, Texas, US

Bettelyoun wrote:
wished i kept my copy as i did a try on your image a day ago but i guess it was taken down. If you are trying to get the results from the image you want Dodge and Burn is the way to go.

Edit: my try was still up on the host site. Mine was a little more subtle.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l159/ … g~original

By far the best edit of this here.

Nov 30 14 04:57 pm Link

Photographer

Photographic Adventures

Posts: 326

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

I had made an attempt the other day and the post disappeared.  Here it is again, FWIW.

https://www.reid-home.net/forumshare/_DSC0237.jpg

Nov 30 14 05:34 pm Link

Photographer

VMTPhotography

Posts: 42

Burlington, Ontario, Canada

My second attempt!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47495173/ModelMayhem/julialivelli_MM.jpg

Nov 30 14 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

rinaldosata photography

Posts: 19

London, England, United Kingdom

Dec 01 14 03:26 am Link

Photographer

rinaldosata photography

Posts: 19

London, England, United Kingdom

VMTPhotography wrote:
My second attempt!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47495173/ModelMayhem/julialivelli_MM.jpg

OMG that's amazing!!
thank you!

Dec 01 14 03:27 am Link

Retoucher

Najan

Posts: 120

Poitiers, Poitou-Charentes, France

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Dec 01 14 06:53 am Link

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Daniel Ecoff

Posts: 426

SHERMAN OAKS, California, US

Post hidden on Dec 06, 2014 05:44 am
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Unsolicited critique is classed as outing

Dec 01 14 09:30 am Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1453

Fremont, California, US

Daniel Ecoff wrote:
unsolicited

cammed, buddy.

Dec 06 14 04:14 am Link

Photographer

Mask Photo

Posts: 1453

Fremont, California, US

rinaldosata photography wrote:
I already removed the rincles and imperfections, but now in the skin the are some small colour difference that make look the model (client) very old!
I don t think frequency separation can be helpful here because i tried already, so what shoud I do?

I don't want to critique you, but I can tell you that smaller (harsher) light sources and bigger angles between the camera and the lights will catch more imperfections in the face. Bear that in mind in the future.

This is a bit late, so you've probably already done what you need to do, but frequency separation most definitely CAN help here. You're going to end up with 2 layers; the detail and the structure. On the detail, you're going to heal the smaller imperfections like blemishes and pore problems.
on the structure layer, you're going to solve the color issues and blotchiness. Here's how: you duplicate the structure layer and run an aggressive surface blur on it, then mask it out and mask it back in where it's needed. Then you can also airbrush on a layer below the detail, to bring in even more smoothing of the underlying color.

PM me if you need more info and it's not too late to get the file to the client.

Dec 06 14 04:24 am Link

Photographer

Ryan Bater

Posts: 3631

London, England, United Kingdom

So i spent about 5 minutes on this, but i think i sadly went too far!

but, just as a rule of thumb. You've got yourself a beautiful portrait. I think if you spent a little time on dodge and burning, and removing any blemishes.. anything's possible with what you want to achieve. Use a curves adjustment layer and hue/saturation adjustment layer. You've used very hard lighting on a low power, so i think if you used a diffuser like a beauty/octobox/softbox facing direct infront of the model next time you can definitely achieve the result you had in mind. This time sadly there's a lot of shadows, but i think it works well. It shows the character in the face, and I personally like it. Just an idea for next time!

Here's my take.. sorry about going a little far in it! it's called rushing i'm afraid.

https://www.ryanbater.co.uk/vfs/image_cache/3193/assets/11356220/1600x1200.jpg

Dec 06 14 08:38 am Link

Photographer

mathom33

Posts: 6

Rochester, New York, US

Here is a quick touch up I did in my spare time.... I saved have the PSD file in case you would like to see the work flow. I can upload it later on and PM you the link. I'm studying for a physiology final so I really don't have much time right now...

https://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-9bvHCp4/0/O/i-9bvHCp4.jpg

Dec 16 14 11:56 pm Link