ASYLUM - Art Nudes wrote:
A) All my work is trade.

B) I'm concentrating on Art Nudes and my Tattoo Series.

A + B = Get naked for "free".

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-ASYLUM-

The odd thing is, nudes seem to be the only reliable gigs I am able to get. (Paid, TF or otherwise)


I shit you not, EVERY SINGLE non-nude shoot I have booked in the last 2 years the model has either canceled, postponed indefinitely, or no-showed.

I guess the nekkid chicks just like me for some reason.

Roxy Mae  NFB wrote:
lemme get this right in order to shoot on a tf* basis i would have had to shoot nude?(according to your old policy)....wow

Nothing wrong with photographers shooting what they want to shoot TF*.
Plus I've seen quite a few photographers that state models on an equal
level who do nudes will get first priority for their TF* shoots, and I'm not
just talking about the "GWCs" who do this.

Stefano Brunesci wrote:

+1

However, I would add that for fashion work I tend to prefer to shoot with models who are comfortable at least topless, as faffing around worrying about "nip-slips" when trying to shoot a fashion set is really not acceptable these days when there is so much nudity in fashion magazines.

For beauty work though it really makes hardly any difference and if a model has something that will benefit my portfolio then I will shoot with her, whatever that may be.

Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

And these words also, I like.

Faffing - awesome. 

Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

Obviously you've been shooting with the wrong people...

Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

Holy hell.

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Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

Wait...so you have no friends other than your husband, and you attract prevs. Um...

PBK Photography wrote:
Do you (photographers) require all (or a majority) of your TF* work to be some form of nude? Full, implied, topless included

No.

When I shoot a creative, I require that it be something useful for my book.

Lumigraphics wrote:
Wait...so you have no friends other than your husband, and you attract prevs. Um...

And how did you come up with that deduction ? That is the type of totally irresponsible comment that have no basis for  being made.

Hassy501 wrote:

And how did you come up with that deduction ? That is the type of totally irresponsible comment that have no basis for  being made.

from another thread post

Hassy501 wrote:

And how did you come up with that deduction ? That is the type of totally irresponsible comment that have no basis for  being made.

She posted in an escort thread that her only friend is her husband.

Photos by Jack Heniford wrote:
Require nudes for TF*, no. Not at all. And I didn't think TF* meant collecting a sitting fee.

Just to clarify. I didnt word it properly last night...

TF* does not require a sitting fee. When working with models or a girl who doesnt model but would like to do one of my test shoots, I do require a sitting fee... the first time i shoot them. It is to be paid up front via paypal when the date is set. It helps to weed out flakes. As long as we continue to work together, she will never be charged again for my test shoots.

Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

Excuse me but wtf!?

Hassy501 wrote:

And how did you come up with that deduction ? That is the type of totally irresponsible comment that have no basis for  being made.

I know some folks will think I'm bashing an amateur with this question, but in reality, it's just a question... are you under 5'8" tall, do you wear glasses, are you bald, and were you a hall monitor in middle school? I'm conducting a survey to find out if the resulting data will support my perceptions. Oh, and did you play organized soccer in your youth?

PBK Photography wrote:
Do you (models) give in to photographers (that you really want to shoot with) who will only shoot under those conditions?

No.

And all the ones I've worked with have respected my boundaries. Plus, if they only shoot under those conditions, I don't contact them. No sense in wasting someones time.

I've done just fine so far without modeling nude. I've considered it, but it's not something I'm interested in at this time.

Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

*twitch*

PYPI FASHION wrote:

For shoots that do not require nudes, I do not require nudes.
For shoots that require nudes, I require nudes.

+1

The Main Man wrote:
My first ever shoot here was for nudes. I wouldnt say I gave in, but I felt that I had to start somewhere

And one of them is still the best shot in your port......

Robert Randall wrote:

I know some folks will think I'm bashing an amateur with this question, but in reality, it's just a question... are you under 5'8" tall, do you wear glasses, are you bald, and were you a hall monitor in middle school? I'm conducting a survey to find out if the resulting data will support my perceptions. Oh, and did you play organized soccer in your youth?

What's wrong with that? I'm from the UK, everyone does that there!

Shutterbug5269 wrote:

The odd thing is, nudes seem to be the only reliable gigs I am able to get. (Paid, TF or otherwise)


I shit you not, EVERY SINGLE non-nude shoot I have booked in the last 2 years the model has either canceled, postponed indefinitely, or no-showed.

I guess the nekkid chicks just like me for some reason.

I think this says a lot about the confidence level and commitment of the average nude model.

PYPI FASHION wrote:

For shoots that do not require nudes, I do not require nudes.
For shoots that require nudes, I require nudes.

thread should have ended here.

PBK Photography wrote:

Just to clarify. I didnt word it properly last night...

TF* does not require a sitting fee. When working with models or a girl who doesnt model but would like to do one of my test shoots, I do require a sitting fee... the first time i shoot them. It is to be paid up front via paypal when the date is set. It helps to weed out flakes. As long as we continue to work together, she will never be charged again for my test shoots.

So you only charge them the first time you shoot them TF*... still not TF*...

PBK Photography wrote:
Was reading another thread and this question came to mind...

Do you (photographers) require all (or a majority) of your TF* work to be some form of nude? Full, implied, topless included

Do you (models) give in to photographers (that you really want to shoot with) who will only shoot under those conditions?

Me- I used to require them during my first year or so but only with those who were comfy doing them. Not that it makes it excusable but we all make mistakes. Currently, I no longer require nudes to shoot a model TF* (I just require a one time sitting fee and will shoot models TF* for as long as we want to continue working together). I shoot some that are minors and I see no reason to not keep it a level playing field.

So everyone, what are your policies/practices?

Again as usual, please keep the smart ass remarks to your self. Just want to see where everyone stands on this issue.

Thanks!

You say it's "TF" ("Trade For...") but you require a "sitting fee!?" What's a sitting fee? And how much do you charge? And for what? And how is it a trade if you're asking for greenbacks?

Swedish Snowbunny wrote:
and from my own personal experience, everytime I got nude the photographers would ask if they could eat my pussy, or just lick it my pussy so they could get  a taste or they would try licking my nipples...weirdos!  luckily, i met husband who said that was insane

Are you serious? Or you were just joking?

Chuckarelei wrote:

Are you serious? Or you were just joking?

brainwashed

Roxy Mae  NFB wrote:

i can see it now

"No TF* unless you are willing to show me your tities, otherwise here are my rate:...."

Is that much different then models who will shoot TF* clothed, but for swimsuit, or lingerie, or nude, or......fill in the blank, want to be paid?  Not that I'm agreeing with his methods.....

PBK Photography wrote:
Was reading another thread and this question came to mind...

Do you (photographers) require all (or a majority) of your TF* work to be some form of nude? Full, implied, topless included

Do you (models) give in to photographers (that you really want to shoot with) who will only shoot under those conditions?

Me- I used to require them during my first year or so but only with those who were comfy doing them. Not that it makes it excusable but we all make mistakes. Currently, I no longer require nudes to shoot a model TF* (I just require a one time sitting fee and will shoot models TF* for as long as we want to continue working together). I shoot some that are minors and I see no reason to not keep it a level playing field.

So everyone, what are your policies/practices?

Again as usual, please keep the smart ass remarks to your self. Just want to see where everyone stands on this issue.

Thanks!

my experiences with a couple photographers that insist on nudity, has led me to the conclusion, that there is a high number of game playing childish GWCs taking nude pictures, that gives a bad name to all of us and is bad for business.

PBK Photography wrote:

Just to clarify. I didnt word it properly last night...

TF* does not require a sitting fee. When working with models or a girl who doesnt model but would like to do one of my test shoots, I do require a sitting fee... the first time i shoot them. It is to be paid up front via paypal when the date is set. It helps to weed out flakes. As long as we continue to work together, she will never be charged again for my test shoots.

Exactly. The only way you will work with these girls is if they pay you first.

That's fine, but don't call it TF*. That's charging for a paid test.

If its TF*, there is no payment at all, first, last, whenever.

LeDeux Art wrote:

my experiences with a couple photographers that insist on nudity, has led me to the conclusion, that there is a high number of game playing childish GWCs taking nude pictures, that gives a bad name to all of us and is bad for business.

So if the work I am looking to do TF* requires nudity and I tell models this, I am just a "GWC taking nude pictures"?

Robert Randall wrote:

I know some folks will think I'm bashing an amateur with this question, but in reality, it's just a question... are you under 5'8" tall, do you wear glasses, are you bald, and were you a hall monitor in middle school? I'm conducting a survey to find out if the resulting data will support my perceptions. Oh, and did you play organized soccer in your youth?

Over 5'8".

Wear contact lenses. Family history of severe myopia.

Crowning bald spot but lots of thick curly hair around it.

Don't recall my junior high having hall monitors.

I know we didn't have organized soccer. I played baseball and floor hockey though.

Lumigraphics wrote:

Over 5'8".

Wear contact lenses. Family history of severe myopia.

Crowning bald spot but lots of thick curly hair around it.

Don't recall my junior high having hall monitors.

I know we didn't have organized soccer. I played baseball and floor hockey though.

It's called a comb-over Dave, we all see it, no one wanted to say anything, but yeah...

Robert Randall wrote:
Oh, and did you play organized soccer in your youth?

Justin Foto wrote:
What's wrong with that? I'm from the UK, everyone does that there!

I thought the ratio was 12 soccer hooligans for every actual player. Didn't I read that somewhere?

Conceptually Black wrote:

So if the work I am looking to do TF* requires nudity and I tell models this, I am just a "GWC taking nude pictures"?

Um, yes?

Conceptually Black wrote:

It's called a comb-over Dave, we all see it, no one wanted to say anything, but yeah...

My hair won't stay combed over.