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Is Facebook killing Model Mayhem.
Facebook killing Model Mayhem comes as no surprise with all the issues MM is having (see SR forum), blank pages, 502, can't log on, can't read my PM's ect ect. Aug 07 12 10:23 am Link _Rei_ wrote: Well missy, you probably got away with the thong because you looked good. Aug 07 12 03:46 pm Link DanaColePix wrote: I totally agree! Facebook is one of the most useful networking and marketing tools I have available to me. I use it daily to network with many industry professionals and prospective clients not on MM and regularly interact with agents/reps, art/creative directors, magazine editors, clothing lines, etc. That's not possible here. I also get far more legitimate inquiries through there as well, which includes paid work. I am not here to find work and I rarely book shoots here, either. I'm mostly just here to chat. Aug 07 12 04:56 pm Link Heck no. MM still rules. FB doesn't allow nudes, nough said. Likes me https://www.facebook.com/barepixels haha Aug 07 12 05:42 pm Link can't happen, fb doesn't allow nekkid pics  Aug 07 12 05:52 pm Link c_h_r_i_s wrote: If I follow your logic, Ken Block's Gymkhana videos are to blame for empty seats at Nascar events and Indycar's less than stellar TV ratings. Even though motorsports are one theme they have in common, that's an apples and oranges comparison. Sure we all know the issues MM has. However, they have more to do with IB than FB. Aug 07 12 06:07 pm Link When I first joined MM it was pretty tough to open an account. For photographers you had to have two different llamas in your port and llamas had to have photos from two different photographers in their port to get in. It also seemed that they somewhat juried those who applied. About a year ago I noticed that had severely changed!! More creeps with cameras getting in as were girls who were in no way serious about llamaing, you all know what I mean, "the FB llama". I mean seriously if I wanted to find llamas to work with who were not serious in their work, I can go to FB. So I gave up on MM and basically abandoned my account. Then a few weeks ago I decided to come back on, update my account and give it another try. Needless to say I was again very disappointed with the experience. I contacted 10 "models" in my area, only 2 read my message and only one of the two responded to me. Then I noticed even more creeps in my area getting in, one of which isn't even a photographer, he video tapes and trust me, this is no director!! When I saw that I started considering pulling my account altogether! My point, in my opinion, this is what has killed MM. At one time I had paid membership here, now I wouldn’t have a paid membership here for any reason. Very sad, this place went to the dogs, it could have been a great place for professionals to network and find others seriously trying to make a name for themselves in this business. I know llamas trusted that photogs who had an account here were professionals, now those llamas don't have that here (and yes I know, they never really had that here but there was some sense of security at one time). Sorry for the vent, jmo ;o) Aug 07 12 06:21 pm Link I've seen new port with a baby pic and the rest of the pic's look like family album snaps. That's how easy it is to open an account on MM. Aug 07 12 06:26 pm Link I'm going to go out on a limb here and hold the opinion that Facebook basically dominated every social media network on the web. Aug 07 12 06:28 pm Link P-Studios wrote: Except then their ad revenue would drop considerably. They use the term "active members" loosely when posting their numbers. If you don't cancel your profile or have it terminated then it's considered active. YEARS of non use will not deactivate an account. Aug 07 12 06:39 pm Link Lol, in a word: No. I don't think fb has anything on this site Aug 08 12 10:01 am Link R Michael Walker wrote: Ad revenue from all the inactive and active accounts seems to be the reason used by all internet modeling sites for keeping dead profiles. Aug 12 12 10:25 am Link Just another tool with different strengths - might as well use the whole suite of available support out there. Aug 12 12 10:37 am Link Model Mayhem is killing Model Mayhem. The democratization of photography is great. It becomes problematic when the media (Model Mayhem) glorifies the worst of it. That said - although the discourse is much higher in general on FB and it is much easier to share as well - I still meet stupid people every day on FB. Aug 12 12 11:14 am Link Whatever happens.. I prefer this site, my facebook is full of stuff I don't want to read and I feel individual contacts can get drowned by your other contacts. Aug 12 12 11:19 am Link Lizzy Borden wrote: VKontakte allows nekkid pics;) Aug 12 12 07:23 pm Link You can't upload videos here, You have a PM limit here, You have a shouting limit here. You have to pay for extra slots up to 200....so yeah... FB.. Aug 12 12 07:26 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: I always wondered why that was..... Aug 12 12 08:52 pm Link I post naked photographs on TUMBLR and post the link on FB. Win-Win. Aug 12 12 08:56 pm Link c_h_r_i_s wrote: You've just got on facebook pretty recently then... Since a few years back it was having issues like that as well. Aug 14 12 07:11 am Link Facebook has just as many if not more flakes! Nov 25 12 12:38 pm Link Facebook is GARBAGE!! I hate the screens, I hate that people are allowed to ask me to play stupid childish games... Total waste of time! Nov 25 12 12:47 pm Link Like an ink blot test, most of the replies tell us more about the poster than about the tools. First, responses to casting calls. I get good responses to casting calls and PMs on MM with minimal flake rate but mostly from a very small pool of active models. I get much wider response from a simple note on facebook asking for models or their recommendations for models. On social media and in the real world MODELS NETWORK. It may be a genetic predisposition. I don't know, but I have found very few exceptions. If you are an introverted loner, no social netwoking site is going to find models for you. There are potential models everywhere. If you can't locate and book them, do some self examination. Second, I am a student of the art. I spend time and money on professional workshops, work as an assistant in genres I am unfamiliar with (did my first live fashion shoot as a second shooter within the last two weeks) and wear out my screen watching Lynda.com. The forums here can be fun, but they are usually not very authoritative. Granted there are exceptions. Peano in the Retoucher forum is as good as anyone I have run across. There are a few in the photography forum. I don't read the Critique forum much because it is mostly ridiculous. Just like most internet forums, MM forums have a lot of shouting and posts by people with little knowledge but strong opinions. Third, if professional means getting or wanting to get paid, MM has a lot of professional models and photographers. If professional means dedicated, capable of doing good work, and approaching this as a business or a serious avocation, the percentage of professional on MM is not all that high. Maybe a little higher than facebook but the difference between 20% and 25% may not be very significant. Fourth, I shoot nudes sometimes. Not a big part of my work. Not having nudes on FB can be somewhat limiting, but it also seems to limit the number of voyeurs doing nothing but looking at photos for their own pleasure, not serious photographers or models. Some might see this as an advantage for FB. Fifth, I haven't been a member long enough to see clear trends. However, most of the models I work with are also using local groups on FB or other coop sites where the community is smaller, more local and more tightly connected. I think this is likely the future of model networking. Last thought, trying to keep an international network together when a large percentage of the work is local and the site has to be supported by general advertising seems like a tough row to hoe. Hope MM doesn't go away, but it may have outlived its business model. Nov 25 12 02:20 pm Link No. Facebook has done a wonderful enough job killing itself. Nov 25 12 02:23 pm Link Michael Pandolfo wrote: MM isn't far behind on the killing itself trail. Nov 25 12 02:25 pm Link Lowell Photography wrote: My avi's a model of FB, 2-3 PM's sorted. Nov 25 12 02:44 pm Link George Ruge wrote: You should take a second and learn how to use it. Nov 25 12 02:47 pm Link Good Egg Productions wrote: I can't see where FB is slowing down. I have seen it on MM for a long while. Nov 25 12 02:48 pm Link They are both committing suicide out of over-confident negligence. Nov 25 12 02:52 pm Link I have found that using MM as well as FB is both hindering and beneficial... Example? I have had photographers post images BEFORE publication, tag me and then the publishing 'contract' is broken...even if the photographer knew before hand. On another note; the limitless uploading done on FaceBook can be a blessing. I can't pay X amount to upload more images to MM nor do I want to necessarily clutter my MM profile, so, that's where FB is handy. As for castings, I have had just about the same luck, wither on MM or FB when requesting artists to collaborate on a project. Overall? I personally feel Facebook, MySpace, Google +...are just more social networks that can be benificial as well as a hindrance. Depends on HOW you make use of any tools given, yes? Nov 25 12 02:58 pm Link |
