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New Canon 1D C
Wow, This is a game changer. Appears to be quite a unit and in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing it appears to produce amazing images. Jan 02 13 07:08 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: What do you mean by game changer? Jan 02 13 07:22 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: I agree why a game changer????? Explain? Jan 02 13 07:25 pm Link as in the original 1D? Jan 02 13 07:27 pm Link 4K at 24 FPS, that makes me wonder about stills? Also it preforms well at 200,000 ISO? No relation to as in the original 1D? Jan 02 13 07:27 pm Link Illuminate wrote: 1D Cinema Jan 02 13 07:29 pm Link Just released today, 1/2/13, the 1DS C Jan 02 13 07:31 pm Link I just checked. still no NHL. so how is this a game changer? what will it do that others cant? and how are the images from other high end cameras un amazing? Jan 02 13 07:34 pm Link try http://www.cinema5d.com/news/?p=13465 I find it a game changer, not that I am going out to buy one, but it is an important step in the industry. Jan 02 13 07:36 pm Link If you're making that kind of money , and you have about 12,000 to spend go got it Jan 02 13 07:38 pm Link I Am not buying one, but it is interesting. I remember the DCS 620, DCS 460 (all over $30,000 a body) and the DCS 760, not to mention the DSLR MF backs and bodies. To me the important point is that Canon is claming to capture and output stills from video at 4000X Jan 02 13 07:48 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: It's a 1Dx with new firm ware- the stills will be the same as a 1Dx. BCADULTART wrote: Ah, you are talking stills from video... the ultimate spray and pray Jan 02 13 07:50 pm Link NewBoldPhoto wrote: I don't think thay you understand my post? Jan 02 13 07:57 pm Link Avatar Shots wrote: Plus...don't forget about those Canon Cinema Lenses...From a mere 4,950...to 44,650 dollars...and please include that Cinema Camera aka 1DX... Jan 02 13 07:57 pm Link ETA: Ah, you are talking stills from video... the ultimate spray and pray You do not understand what I am talking about. Jan 02 13 07:58 pm Link for 12k there are plenty of video cameras that dont have the "NIKON F MOTORDRIVE ON STEROIDS" form factor. I don't see how this is a game changer for anyone other than tendinopathy specialists (who may be ironically, the ones who can best afford one). Jan 02 13 08:00 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: You are quite right... What are you talking about? Jan 02 13 08:05 pm Link NBP, I am talking about the abaliy to take a 4k still from a single frame of video. Jan 02 13 08:09 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: You do not understand what I am talking about. What do you find frightening? Jan 02 13 08:09 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: Why is that frightening? Jan 02 13 08:10 pm Link If it has the same limitation of 25minute clips that the 5Dii does and no powered zoom lenses then it is not much of a game changer. The RED ONE is now $4,000, RED SCARLET is $7,950, and RED EPIC is $19,000. WHy would I spend $12,000 on a hopped up DSLR? Jan 02 13 08:11 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: I was watching the video and that is what the photographers were exited about. Jan 02 13 08:12 pm Link Because I am a "Still Photographer" I do not 'Spray and Pray' The idea that a 35mm body would alow a photographer to just press the button and record at 24 FPS and then ediors would select the frame does bother me. Jan 02 13 08:14 pm Link Canon had a great chance to design an awesome ergonomically capable cinematic camera from scratch but instead relied on the weird shape of a typical DSLR chassis to house the marvelous innards. So now it looks like a thick slab of a Yellow Pages telephone book/directory with a Starbucks cappuccino cup stuck in front. Ugly Camera (for a movie gear). Shame. The C500 is better (on the right) . Jan 02 13 08:18 pm Link Long Island Studios wrote: Id like to see someone follow down the mountain even with carefully positioned shoot platforms with one of these on a rig. Red is the game changer here. Jan 02 13 08:20 pm Link Is this concept new to you? People have been touting stills from 4k for a while, prophesying that we will learn to live in world of continuous lighting. I have read editorials in photography magazines saying cameras like the Red are still photographers' future and we must love crisp light. Canon is attempting to break into Hollywood. They have set up an office but as good as they are, there are companies who are way ahead in the Hollywood HD camera world and they don't care about stills. So, be afraid of the monster that was unleashed some time ago. Jan 02 13 08:22 pm Link Yall told me what I expected to hear. Night Jan 02 13 08:22 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: That hardly seems economical but maybe there is some poor sob somewhere in the world willing to sift down thousands images to find the keepers for cheap but I don't see that change coming anytime soon. Jan 02 13 08:27 pm Link NewBoldPhoto wrote: to be fair, its not thousands. you get to a point in the stream and you want something its just scrolling back and forth through a few dozen. it's 24FPS not 24mil. I have not done it with 4k but an image is an image. you want to find......that one. no...that one...no...back two.yes...thats it. Jan 02 13 08:34 pm Link AVD AlphaDuctions wrote: Yes, but that's not just one per shoot... think catalog work - 2-4 sec at 24f/sec X 3 to 8 poses X 20 to 200 items... Jan 02 13 09:32 pm Link -JAY- wrote: OIC...cool Jan 02 13 09:35 pm Link NewBoldPhoto wrote: not to mention x 4GB per minute! Jan 02 13 09:47 pm Link I only shoot video as a hobby but i would love to be able to shoot 4k to allow me to "zoom in" on detail in the footage (within a 1920 x 1080 workspace) when my optical zoom runs out, eg like filming galloping horses. I would also love to be able to pull stills from video as I can't film and shoot stills at the same time... Its still a bit out of my budget though at the moment! Jan 02 13 10:00 pm Link NewBoldPhoto wrote: unless your catalog is Russian Brides you wouldnt shoot in video in the first place. Grabbing a still frame from a point in a video stream implies you have some sort of action going on. Now I'm the first to admit my catalog work is limited (2 contracts) but nothing moved when I was shooting it. Think of the video I linked to. You want to grab a frame in the middle of one of those crazy ass jumps. right....there. Jan 02 13 10:04 pm Link Instinct Images wrote: As I said before that's the wrong way to think about it. its not 500 GB. its an x minute video stream. you stop when you get to a good bit and scroll back and forth a few frames to find the best of the lot. it's just better quality now. Jan 02 13 10:06 pm Link BCADULTART wrote: That's absurd. Who would shoot that way when you can use a Red and shoot at 96fps? Jan 02 13 10:20 pm Link AVD AlphaDuctions wrote: Well you still have to transfer 500GB of data and you still have to store it until you select out the stills. So you can't ignore the massive amount of data required. Jan 02 13 10:25 pm Link Instinct Images wrote: sorry you cant use the GB argument. you have to transfer anyways. if your contract is to shoot video you shoot video. how many GB or TB you use is how many you use. Dont want to transfer that much data? Dont shoot high quality digital video. shoot film or whatever. But if you are shooting digital video you will be transferring a lot of data. If your contract is to shoot stills you shoot stills. the GB or TB required are part of the game. as for looking through 2 hours of video, if your mandate is to do a 2 hour video then thats what it is and someone is going to be looking through it anyway. so again...you have to be there anyways and all you do is hit pause and scroll. Jan 02 13 10:32 pm Link Canon had some success with the 5DII being adopted by amateur and professional videographers. This success caused the company to litterally loose focus and start to develop products like these - packed full of features useless to actual photographers. Canon is no longer chasing/competing with Nikon. Canon is now competing with RED. I know many hard core Canon shooters who have given up on them ever producing a wonderful new photographic tool. Jan 02 13 11:57 pm Link what if there not enough available lights?? is that means i can throw away all me flashes and strobes? >_< This gonna be a powerful camera!! Jan 03 13 12:34 am Link |