Photographer
TRPn Pics
Posts: 10435
Silver Springs Shores, Florida, US
Damianne wrote:
Lol the personal experience one.
No.
Joke.
I will pee myself in excitement the day all photographers ever stop trying to direct my emotions on a shoot.
"Try and look sad" instead of "I want you to think of the saddest thing that's ever happened to you, really feel it, get into that moment. Oh I can tell you're miserable right now."
Oh yeah, buddy, we really went somewhere together. 
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 989
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Damianne wrote:
I will pee myself in excitement the day all photographers ever stop trying to direct my emotions on a shoot.
"Try and look sad" instead of "I want you to think of the saddest thing that's ever happened to you, really feel it, get into that moment. Oh I can tell you're miserable right now." the "dead puppies" line always brings tears to a models eyes ...
works for me anyways ... YMMV
emotive models are hard to come by ... hence "direction" IS required if the shot list isn't discussed beforehand ...
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Caustic Disco wrote:
lol those were funny!!! sometimes i want to say something when photographers are constantly critiquing me while shooting and try to help me out by saying "if you want to be a professional llama you have to..." i just wanna be like "dude, ... I like this reply!
Earlier in the year before my first and them my second shoot I had 2 photographers seperately tell me that I needed some glamour-style shots taken to show diversity and the second one went on to tell me how he would really help and develope me. I thanked him but, mentally noted what he had in his port and his mutual amatuer status and how unlikely his mentor-ability would be. The first one was offering his genuine opinion in a helpful way. However I knew that was not the direction I wanted to take my port, (especially not at over 45 y.o.) we ended up not shooting as it was.
Jen
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Hero Foto wrote:
the "dead puppies" line always brings tears to a models eyes ...
works for me anyways ... YMMV
emotive models are hard to come by ... hence "direction" IS required if the shot list isn't discussed beforehand ... Sure, but don't lead with your best impression of a meditation instructor, see what they can give you on their own first.
As hard as it must be to find emotive models, I've met those, and I have yet to meet a photographer with the skills required to manipulate my emotions for me. It just always sounds silly.
One photographer I guess comes close, but she just has a project where she has people talk about their shit for a long time and then snaps a picture when they're finally starting to break down. She doesn't manipulate anything there.
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Mark Harris Photography
Posts: 526
Metuchen, New Jersey, US
Emily Hayworth wrote:
I recently wrote a blog post about this, reminiscing about the many times someone has said something at a shoot and I've wanted to reply in a certain way, but didn't, for the sake of politeness and possible future work. There are a lot of things we say to people to be polite and not start a fight. This is a wonderful collection, thanks for sharing.
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Ex Voto Studio
Posts: 4985
Columbia, Maryland, US
This reminds me of two movies. Bulworth and Liar Liar.
I have always been a little jealous of both scenarios. How cool would it be just
to put it out there!
(what I am going to say)
Emily, I enjoyed your reading thread!
(what I am thinking)
This girl rocks!!
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Lumatic
Posts: 13750
Brooklyn, New York, US
Damianne wrote:
Sure, but don't lead with your best impression of a meditation instructor, see what they can give you on their own first. lol
"Breathe in." *click*
"Breathe out. That's good." *click*
"Breathe in... oh, that's PERFECT. Give me more... more... okay, HOLD IT!"
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 989
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Damianne wrote:
Sure, but don't lead with your best impression of a meditation instructor, see what they can give you on their own first.
As hard as it must be to find emotive models, I've met those, and I have yet to meet a photographer with the skills required to manipulate my emotions for me. It just always sounds silly. I get it ... I'm fairly laid back ... I ask for an emotion and if they can't deliver, I chime in ...
If you can deliver emotions on command that's great ... come out here and teach classes to these gals ... PLEASE ... 
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 989
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Lumatic wrote:
lol
"Breathe in." *click*
"Breathe out. That's good." *click*
"Breathe in... oh, that's PERFECT. Give me more... more... okay, HOLD IT!"
ROFL
Photographer
Worlds Of Water
Posts: 37732
Rancho Cucamonga, California, US
Hey Emily... great working with you in the past. It's good to see you haven't lost your sense of humor on those 'what I thought' comments... ... you rock girlfren... 
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Hero Foto wrote:
I get it ... I'm fairly laid back ... I ask for an emotion and if they can't deliver, I chime in ...
If you can deliver emotions on command that's great ... come out here and teach classes to these gals ... PLEASE ... Now I wanna pose as a photographer and video tape reactions to starting out a shoot with "ok I'm going to need you to sit there, alright, good, now rellaaaaaaaaaaax, yes, relaaaaaaaax, close your eyes, now you're in a BEAUTiful meadow, and there are TREES oh the beautiful trees and there's just a nice wind but not TOO much you know, and OH LOOK a deer how lovely OK OPEN YOUR EYES LOOK AT THE CAMERA *click* ok perfect now you're swimming with a DOLphin isn't that nice...."
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 989
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Damianne wrote:
Now I wanna pose as a photographer and video tape reactions to starting out a shoot with "ok I'm going to need you to sit there, alright, good, now rellaaaaaaaaaaax, yes, relaaaaaaaax, close your eyes, now you're in a BEAUTiful meadow, and there are TREES oh the beautiful trees and there's just a nice wind but not TOO much you know, and OH LOOK a deer how lovely OK OPEN YOUR EYES LOOK AT THE CAMERA *click* ok perfect now you're swimming with a DOLphin isn't that nice...." o.0
that's friggin' AWESOME ... sounds like you should voice-over those self help tapes ...
Model
Isis22
Posts: 3557
Muncie, Indiana, US
twoharts wrote:
we break out the baby wipes if the model has dirty feet, especially if it's a foot fetish shoot where she'll be sucking on her own feet.
Some men with a foot fetish LIKE dirty feet. I did a shoot at an old remodeled church and my feet were black halfway through the day. The second photographer I shot with must have liked that because I have a shot of my feet where they are very clear and my face is blurry;)
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Toto Photo
Posts: 3757
Belmont, California, US
The differences between thoughts and words while flirting are interesting too. Anybody else remember the subtitles in Woody Allen's movie Annie Hall while they're trying to get the lobster into the boiling water?
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
After taking a shot: "Great!" What I was thinking: "Jesus Christ - not another one like that! Do something even slightly interesting FFS!" Before taking a shot: "More hair, more hair, head forward!!" What I was thinking: "Anything to cover your face dear..." Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com
Photographer
Hero Foto
Posts: 989
Phoenix, Arizona, US
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
After taking a shot: "Great!"
What I was thinking: "Jesus Christ - not another one like that! Do something even slightly interesting FFS!" ROFLMAO
Retoucher
The Invisible Touch
Posts: 862
Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
After taking a shot: "Great!"
What I was thinking: "Jesus Christ - not another one like that! Do something even slightly interesting FFS!"
Before taking a shot: "More hair, more hair, head forward!!"
What I was thinking: "Anything to cover your face dear..."
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com That really made me laugh!! lol
Model
Nym Faea
Posts: 650
San Francisco, California, US
Dirty porn feet!
I luff them. Actually, I've started always taking comfy socks to a shoot to wear around the studio and keep my toesies from freezing. Dirty porn feet are gross, unless, of course, you're doing dirty porn.
My boyfriend is actually a professional listener to my diva diatribes. After putting on the polite, professional face it can feel really exceptionally good to have a cocktail and let all the evil, catty words out. Then everything is balanced, and I can go about my day.
It's a good system and a good laugh, much like this thread. It's nice to voice those snide remarks!
Photographer
Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
If a person is really complaining about things that are by and large out of my control and are or should be well within theirs (at least in my opinion), I'll let them have it with both barrels ... no mixer, no chaser and no sugar coating. If they don't like it, tough.
Most call or seem to call me rude, tactless, cold hearted, etc etc. The one thing I've never been called is spin doctor. I try to say things in as nice a way as possible but I'm not one to go out of my way to say things in such a way that a person might not know what I mean. Ambiguity is not my friend at all.
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phoenixphoto
Posts: 125
Gunnedah, New South Wales, Australia
Just once, after driving for 5 hours, the model was an hour and a half late for a paid shoot and wanted the money for the 90 minutes she wasn't there.....
my parting words were: "Yes of course, I will be in touch again for another shoot"
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rcaz
Posts: 33
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, US
Her: laying in the bed with the street lamps shining thru the cheap blinds casting this fresnel like lighting on her
Me: "Honey, you look beautiful in the dark..."
15 years later... I've yet to live that comment down.
Sometimes its best to just keep my mouth shut.
Photographer
California Girls Skate
Posts: 377
Los Angeles, California, US
Emily Hayworth wrote:
I recently wrote a blog post about this, reminiscing about the many times someone has said something at a shoot and I've wanted to reply in a certain way, but didn't, for the sake of politeness and possible future work. Girl I knew was getting older and was sad because she felt her beauty is fading.
HER: "I used to be able to walk to into a room and every head would turn."
ME: "So, what do you think happened?"
WHAT I MEANT: "You still look beautiful enough to turn heads to me. Why would you think you aren't turning heads anymore?"
WHAT SHE HEARD: "Where did all that supposed beauty go? You sure ain't turning heads anymore, you ugly hoe!"
Poor girl confessed MONTHS later that she was heartbroken by "what I thought of her" and I had no clue what she meant. I didn't even recall that conversation. When she brought it up and refreshed my memory, I felt bad. But at the same time, I told her, "Why the hell didn't you ask me to clarify myself sooner? You know I'd never insult you like that! It's your fault for not saying anything!"
Women just constantly make me think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHzjgNoRmjg
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ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
i guess that explains why the model was ok with putting dirty feet in her mouth! fetishes can be downright unusual. Isis22 wrote:
Some men with a foot fetish LIKE dirty feet. I did a shoot at an old remodeled church and my feet were black halfway through the day. The second photographer I shot with must have liked that because I have a shot of my feet where they are very clear and my face is blurry;)
Photographer
ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
my wife gets mad at me for things i do in her dreams (and she doesn't even know what happens in my dreams!) women can be bat shit crazy sometimes. that's why god invented breasts so we have something to do while they're making us wrong for something. lol. California Girls Skate wrote:
Poor girl confessed MONTHS later that she was heartbroken by "what I thought of her" and I had no clue what she meant. I didn't even recall that conversation.
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
rcaz wrote:
Her: laying in the bed with the street lamps shining thru the cheap blinds casting this fresnel like lighting on her
Me: "Honey, you look beautiful in the dark..."
15 years later... I've yet to live that comment down.
Sometimes its best to just keep my mouth shut. OH! guffaw out loud. This is great. 
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
FFS!"
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com FFS!! I miss this lingo.
Jen
p.s. Scottish coworker in my past and also stayed in Donyatt, UK off and on for 6 years...FFS
Model
Calypso Moon
Posts: 848
Banning, California, US
Select Models wrote:
Hey Emily... great working with you in the past. It's good to see you haven't lost your sense of humor on those 'what I thought' comments... ... you rock girlfren... Thanks Gary!
Model
Calypso Moon
Posts: 848
Banning, California, US
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
After taking a shot: "Great!"
What I was thinking: "Jesus Christ - not another one like that! Do something even slightly interesting FFS!"
Before taking a shot: "More hair, more hair, head forward!!"
What I was thinking: "Anything to cover your face dear..."
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com This one made me laugh. 
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 39248
Portland, Oregon, US
This is a pretty awesome thread, and you know...
Model
Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 555
Seattle, Washington, US
TomFRohwer wrote:
The poor guy just wanted to know whether there is some more beer in the fridge. Because if there is no more beer he could avoid the then senseless strain to leave the couch and go to the kitchen while the tv drama/sports show etc.pp. is running. If he wanted his girl to bring him a beer he just would have said so... Men are that simple and plain. Really. Trust me.
He just thinks "My smart girls always seems to know what is in the fridge and what is not - so I simply ask her instead of looking for myself". And that was about it. If it's so simple then my point that men are selfish and inconsiderate is proven. They are also supposed to be logical beings so lets apply some logic to this. This has nothing to do with smart or not smart it has to do with what is important to who. Why in the world would I know if there is beer in the fridge or not unless I bought it for myself and put it there and he has not got his hands on it yet.(there is no chance of knowing that for sure).
In this case it really could have been better to just go something like, "Honey could you please bring me a beer if we have any?" provided the woman isn't busy, because if you pull a woman away from something she is doing you would deserve whatever you got.
And finally, he could have just checked all that and grabbed some beforehand and prevented anything like this from happening in the first place.
What I was getting at is that there is nothing definitive and nothing here that has to do with being a man or a woman it simply has to do with being different from the other person no matter who they are. Some people are more logical than others, and some are more sensitive then others, and some are much faster thinkers than others.
Model
Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 555
Seattle, Washington, US
Damianne wrote:
Lol the personal experience one.
No.
Joke.
I will pee myself in excitement the day all photographers ever stop trying to direct my emotions on a shoot.
"Try and look sad" instead of "I want you to think of the saddest thing that's ever happened to you, really feel it, get into that moment. Oh I can tell you're miserable right now."
Oh yeah, buddy, we really went somewhere together. Ditto! Tell me what you want, do not tell me what to think. Mostly because what you want me to think most likely produces a completely different emotion than what you want.
Model
Calypso Moon
Posts: 848
Banning, California, US
Miroslava Svoboda wrote:
Ditto! Tell me what you want, do not tell me what to think. Mostly because what you want me to think most likely produces a completely different emotion than what you want. ROFL...this is the gospel truth.
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Miroslava Svoboda
Posts: 555
Seattle, Washington, US
As for my humble contribution to this thread whenever I hear "you're beautiful", "you're gorgeous", "so pretty", instead of a "Got it" and a hi5 or direction to change what's not working I just want to stop what I'm doing and seriously face palm; instead I just smile and nod, smile and nod.
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C A K E M I X
Posts: 873
Louth, England, United Kingdom
I usualy just say what I think without *thinking haha.
Probably the reason I don't make friends easily.
I can think of two recent times this has happened (over the last week) and funnily enough both of them are to do with my size.
It's usualy me who makes them backtrack haha
Photographer: So I got offered to do some work for a plus size agency, But That's not really my thing (makes a disguisted face).
Me: You do sorta realise you ARE working with a plus size model, doofass?
Photographer: Yeah but I didn't mean you, I meant like proper proper fat models.
Photographer (after discussing he wanted muscle/back definition shots): Ehh, you don't have an awful lot of muscle/bone definition on your back? I was hoping to get some spine definition aswell.
Me: Well I am aware that I'm a size 14 and not a size 4, are you?
Also I've had a shoot recently, where some of the images on camera looked wonderful, and something I'd really want to use, I even made my own final selection that he said he would retouch, It's been almost 3 weeks now and the only images I've seen back are his own selections, and editing just looked AWFUL.
I've made it very clear to him that I only wanted to use the selections that I picked, and that now I'd be more than happy to retouch them myself, as I couldn't at the time.
I doubt I will be able to use those images, If i get them back :L
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Damianne
Posts: 15978
Austin, Texas, US
Miroslava Svoboda wrote:
As for my humble contribution to this thread whenever I hear "you're beautiful", "you're gorgeous", "so pretty", instead of a "Got it" and a hi5 or direction to change what's not working I just want to stop what I'm doing and seriously face palm; instead I just smile and nod, smile and nod. You weren't pretty until you got all the angles aligned.
NOW you're pretty.
Good job. Hold it or we'll lose it.
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
One that my model friend Madame Bink told me about which annoys her her a lot:- Photographer says: "Arm up, up, back, back, a bit more...." Photographer means: "Show me your boob, please!!" Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15973
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom
-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
One that my model friend Madame Bink told me about which annoys her her a lot:-
Photographer says: "Arm up, up, back, back, a bit more...."
Photographer means: "Show me your boob, please!!"
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com I'm far too blunt and plain spoken if the image requires an exposed boob(s) I'll say it before the models on set as part of the per production discussion.
If it doesn't fit into the concept then there's no point.
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TomFRohwer
Posts: 1601
Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Damianne wrote:
I will pee myself in excitement the day all photographers ever stop trying to direct my emotions on a shoot.
"Try and look sad" instead of "I want you to think of the saddest thing that's ever happened to you, really feel it, get into that moment. Oh I can tell you're miserable right now." In thousands of years of evolution we have learned that direct verbal approach to women often do not work... ;-)
No, really - most trained actors and some models are capable to perform emotions at command. Many models are not. But I agree that the first choice simply should be "I like you to look sad".
If that does not work you can try to may give helpful hints how to do this.
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TomFRohwer
Posts: 1601
Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Miroslava Svoboda wrote:
Why in the world would I know if there is beer in the fridge or not unless I bought it for myself and put it there and he has not got his hands on it yet.(there is no chance of knowing that for sure). As I said: He just thinks "My smart girls always seems to know what is in the fridge and what is not..."
Sometimes men overrate their girls. When it comes to women we often are so trustful...
In this case it really could have been better to just go something like, "Honey could you please bring me a beer if we have any?" Because he does not want her to bring him a beer...
He just wants to know whether there is beer.
Somehow you verify my scenario. You seem to be unable to see a simple question as what it is, too.
A simple question. Not a demand.
And finally, he could have just checked all that and grabbed some beforehand and prevented anything like this from happening in the first place. Why should he do so if he trusts in his lady to know the state of beer supply?
A question is a question is a question.
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... you rock girlfren... 
