Forums > Model Colloquy > Would You Shoot a Model who is a Convicted Felon ?

Photographer

TerrysPhotocountry

Posts: 4649

Rochester, New York, US

The only way that I would know if the model was a felon is if I was told.

Jun 30 15 09:05 pm Link

Photographer

DAVISICON

Posts: 644

San Antonio, Texas, US

rowanfoto wrote:
Would you photograph a male model who tried to hack his girlfriend to death?

No I wouldn't want to, but then how would I know this?

Jun 30 15 09:26 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Light and Lens Studio wrote:

wink   This is a "wink smiley".   It is often used in the cyberworld to denote humor or a joke.  Please remember this.

Well, throughout my adult life I have worked with lots and lots of Canadians (here in the US).  One thing I noticed is that they all had a great capacity for humor.  Is this something that only Canadians that leave their home country have?  wink  I must confess that I often wonder if that may be the case when reading some of the postings here in the forum by some of the Canadian photographers. 

Anyway, please understand that my post was tongue in cheek humor.  Please don't take it so seriously that you get your knickers all in a twist. big_smile

I guess I am just one of those Canadians that does not find gun humor funny

my bad

Jun 30 15 10:32 pm Link

Photographer

NewBoldPhoto

Posts: 5216

PORT MURRAY, New Jersey, US

terrysphotocountry wrote:
The only way that I would know if the model was a felon is if I was told.

I'm with you.
I suppose we shall have to trust garry to background check our models.

Jun 30 15 11:05 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

NewBoldPhoto wrote:
I'm with you.
I suppose we shall have to trust garry to background check our models.

Actually ....

I "met " a new model in town on one of our local facebook groups and we started chatting , She had a good look and told me that she really wanted to shoot some nudes with me to help her develop her modelliing portfolio ,,, later I was chatting with one of my photographer friends about my good fortune and he was  the one who googled her and then dropped the bomb on me

tongue

Jun 30 15 11:22 pm Link

Photographer

Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

I recently had model tell me that she was on probation and couldn't leave her county after I mentioned doing a shoot in a different county. This came after I had already shot her in another adjoining county a month earlier. She seemed to me to be the last parson one would suspect of having any problems.

Jul 01 15 10:25 am Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

Chopping one's boyfriend up with a machete is a crime of passion and ergo doesn't count. Crimes of passion usually occur when one is pushed to their limit by the other party. ( the schmuck probably deserved what he got. ) So yeah, I'd shoot her!:-)))

Jul 01 15 10:40 am Link

Photographer

goofus

Posts: 808

Santa Barbara, California, US

how would I even know? does MM have a checkbox for that now?


I would..but I'd hide my good lenses

Jul 01 15 11:46 am Link

Photographer

Steve Arebalo

Posts: 2280

Orange, California, US

terrysphotocountry wrote:
The only way that I would know if the model was a felon is if I was told.

Based on my career in Corrections, most men/women on parole for murder, will reveal the crime. Without prompting, they will reveal the crime when interested in working with someone. IMHO

Jul 01 15 01:30 pm Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

https://www.hipwiki.com/dl560?display&x=600&y=486

Jul 01 15 04:10 pm Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

Jul 01 15 04:14 pm Link

Photographer

2A Models

Posts: 419

SOUTHWORTH, Washington, US

SoftLights wrote:
...If this is a real concern remove all edged weapons from the shoot sight and have her tested for drugs...

Yeah, leave the bludgeons and firearms where they are; I'm sure she specializes... wink

Jul 03 15 07:19 am Link

Photographer

Benjamen McGuire

Posts: 3991

Portland, Oregon, US

I don't know... the remorse part is kind of a turn off.

Jul 08 15 07:26 pm Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

I try to avoid models who are drug users.......period. They simply can't be relied on, to perform well, and there are so many things that can go wrong, when someone is out of their head. Too many potential problems.

Glad that your shoot went ok.........but you should recognize that you took a major risk.

Jul 14 15 05:22 am Link

Model

Sarah Quill

Posts: 142

Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand

A person's past doesn't always reflect who they are at present

I am a model with a criminal record and I'm pretty damn professional.

Jul 23 15 08:29 pm Link

Model

Sarah Quill

Posts: 142

Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand

Vector One Photography wrote:
I don't care about their criminal past, as long as it wasn't murdering their photographer or stealing camera equipment.  If you only shoot people that have lead perfect lives or haven't done anything wrong in their past, you're not going to be taking a lot of pictures in your life.

They'd be boring pictures, too.

Jul 23 15 08:40 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Sarah Quill wrote:
A person's past doesn't always reflect who they are at present

I am a model with a criminal record and I'm pretty damn professional.

I am not sure why you suddenly appear much, much hotter to me... and I haven't even seen your portfolio... evilgrin

I posted earlier in this thread that Levi's video commercial with the "criminal woman"... that was so hot too...


udor wrote:
For a sexy, comic relief, just watch this Criminal Woman Strips Levi's Ad from 1995  evilgrin  borat

Jul 23 15 11:05 pm Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 3450

Sisters, Oregon, US

Jules NYC wrote:
https://www.hipwiki.com/dl560?display&x=600&y=486

+ 1

Jul 23 15 11:39 pm Link

Photographer

TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

udor wrote:

I am not sure why you suddenly appear much, much hotter to me... and I haven't even seen your portfolio... evilgrin

'cause you are a romantic... ;-)

A fallen bad girl and the strong good knight who reaches out to her... ;-) Or so.

Jul 24 15 05:16 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

TomFRohwer wrote:

'cause you are a romantic... ;-)

A fallen bad girl and the strong good knight who reaches out to her... ;-) Or so.

Oh... LOL... well... I am not as good as you think... I am probably more of a kindred spirit to her... evilgrin   lol   ninja

Jul 24 15 08:51 am Link

Model

Sarah Quill

Posts: 142

Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand

Jul 25 15 08:23 am Link

Model

Sarah Quill

Posts: 142

Tauranga, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand

Jul 25 15 08:25 am Link

Photographer

TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

udor wrote:

Oh... LOL... well... I am not as good as you think... I am probably more of a kindred spirit to her... evilgrin   lol   ninja

Or so...

Jul 25 15 10:01 am Link

Photographer

TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Wolfstar Studio wrote:
Axe murderers need not apply. Sorry.

I have a gun. I have many guns.

I guess it's easier to evade an ax than to evade a bullet... ;-)

Jul 25 15 10:04 am Link

Photographer

Lakeshore Photography

Posts: 184

Holland, Michigan, US

Yes, I would.

Jul 25 15 10:08 am Link

Photographer

Mark C Smith

Posts: 1073

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Solas wrote:
How would you know? What if you do a shoot with someone, then find out they did a violent crime later? Would you still use the images or associate with the person? Safety aside, how does the law apply in the case of discrimination ?

If you found out, and you cancelled the shoot because of their history .. would that be considered discrimination ?

How does the law apply (in canada) towards that?

Canadian law allows for somebody not to be hired on the basis of prior criminal convictions. And if it's just a TF shoot, you can cancel the shoot because the model doesn't look like her portfolio, why not a criminal past?

Jul 25 15 09:05 pm Link

Photographer

Ike Lace Photography

Posts: 159

Chicago, Illinois, US

nope.

Garry k wrote:
In her defense though - She was /is quite beautiful ( joke )  and well - she reportedly was high on drugs when the crime was committed

nice troll.

Sep 01 15 02:11 am Link

Photographer

Eyesso

Posts: 1218

Orlando, Florida, US

Yes 

https://www.si24.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/criminali-modelli.jpg

Sep 01 15 10:31 pm Link

Photographer

Philipe

Posts: 5302

Pomona, California, US

Garry k wrote:
Would You shoot with a Model who is a convicted Felon and why or why not ?

( Edit ) And if so - then where would you draw the line in terms of accepting whatever crime they had committed ?


Recently I shot with a female model who had just served a 3 year prison sentence for trying to hack her boyfriend to death with a machette

In her defense though - She was /is quite beautiful ( joke )  and well - she reportedly was high on drugs when the crime was committed .Also reportedly she was remorseful in the aftermath of the crime

A couple of my photographer friends were incredulous that I would do a shoot with such a model and questioned my sanity
- To which I replied that I believed in giving most people ( models included ) a second chance in life - if they are truelly remorseful over thier previoous crimintal actions , And also I did not expect any problems from her during the shoot cus my guess was that she is still on parole

Anyways the Shoot went well and We had fun

smile

PS - No I will not identify this model (even though she is not an MM member )

It would be ok, just don;t make it personal and pry into her past or ask...
She may have had a break down or maybe she was a victim of abuse...

Sep 04 15 06:34 am Link