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Would You Shoot a Model who is a Convicted Felon ?
as long as that felony was not while working with me... she or he is good to go! Jun 25 15 11:03 am Link I think most photographers would shoot with a model who was convicted of a felony no matter what it was if it was something that bad I am sure they would be in prison a very long time anyway so not available to do a shoot lol. Jun 25 15 12:24 pm Link Interesting scenario. Several years ago, I retired as a Correctional Lieutenant after 20 years. I would not be afraid of working with an ex-felon. Most felons, are or were, drug addicts and/or burglers. If she made parole, the odds are good that she will not re-commit a similar crime. That is my train of thought and not a rule. If she had the look I wanted in my portfolio, I would schedule a photo shoot. If you are that concerned, you can always bring an escort. IMHO Jun 25 15 01:06 pm Link Yes, I would, (1) its not my place to judge another individual = unless I'm fully aware of the circumstances and/or I've directly been in their shoes. (1-a) though fundamentally, the graveness of said offence would be a consideration. (2) "Three Felonies a Day" if everyone was caught and convicted of every law they broke; knowingly or not, this thread would have no point since we're all in the same boat according to overzealous US law. (3) People change, I don't care about a persons past, rumor or hearsay, its who they are NOW. (4) though admitting, the exception being I would never get near, let alone date anyone like say: Lorena Bobbitt so I'm not perfect ...but I would still like to keep all my pieces  Jun 25 15 02:04 pm Link Of couirse I live in Canada ( as does the Model ) where the laws are generally fair and the prison system has not been handed over to the private business sector Jun 25 15 02:23 pm Link Garry k wrote: The problem being that in this country you can now become a lifetime sex offender for doing some of the same things most of us did as teens. How about urinating in public, or the 16 year old boy who has sex with his 15 11/12ths year old girl friend? It is one thing to protect the public from predators but the US has gone way overboard in giving out lifetime sentences for a lot of "coming of age" behavior. Jun 25 15 02:56 pm Link Eye of the World wrote: I don't know how much that really happens in practice - I would hope it doesn't. When I was a teenager it was fairly normal for 18 year old boys to have younger girlfriends. My girlfriend for about a year when I was 18 was 16 - another was 17. Jun 25 15 03:06 pm Link Koryn wrote: I very much agree with this. Jun 25 15 03:15 pm Link Eye of the World wrote: Yeah, those scenarios bother me as well. But most sex offender registries have enough details to figure out what they're in there for and from there make one's own deductions. Jun 25 15 03:18 pm Link Assuming the model wasn't convicted of killing a photographer, I don't have an issue with it. Jun 25 15 03:21 pm Link i couldn't care where she went to school or vacationed... doesnt matter, just model! Jun 25 15 04:40 pm Link I've never required anyone disclose their criminal history to me prior to setting up a shoot, so its entirely possible Ive worked with any number of felons already. I don't know in what context "oh and by the way, I tried to kill a man once but Im all better now" would actually come up in "where are we meeting and what time?" Jun 26 15 11:51 am Link I think that I can say that more important than a criminal record (the person served the punishment and is out... that should count for something!) is if the model is mentally stable... I have worked with models who were non-felons... and... holy shit... they were headcases... difficult during the shoot... and after... one became my stalker who lived in a fantasy world... I found out two years after I worked with her that she told people that she and I are getting married... my jaw seriously dropped, especially since I haven't seen her in those two years...  The other one was/is a neurotic control freak... who I am in contact as friends, but will not work with her, because she is extremely demanding and you can't do anything right... if I put out examples, you'd understand, but that is not important... Anyway... point is... a little crazy is good... a level of clinical psychosis that really needs to be medicated... that's a lil' bit too much! Jun 26 15 11:57 am Link I`d worry about the white balance. my Sonys have enough trouble with blacks  Jun 26 15 12:11 pm Link Would You shoot with a Model who is a convicted Felon and why or why not ? Would you shoot with a photographer who is a convicted felon and why or why not? What if the felony was rape? A model could be a rapist. A rapist could be male or female. Maybe they were falsely accused; maybe they are rehabilitated. Say the felony was embezzlement. I guess I just don't like being around people who get in that kind of trouble with the law (lie/cheat/steal/violence/drugs, etc.). It's public knowledge by state on their .gov site for the inquisitive. I don't go around checking this kind of info with people I shoot with. If alarm bells are going off, I don't shoot with them. This is all in the vetting process of deciding who to work with. If they have felonies in their past and my radar is not picking up on it, not sure if ignorance is bliss here. Jun 26 15 03:17 pm Link Maybe MM needs a check box on every profile, like they have for piercings and tattoos. FELON YES NO LOL Jun 26 15 03:52 pm Link Why not? If she has the look and meets my need for the shoot. What else do I need from a model. If I am looking for a wife or daughter-in-law, it may be. She has done her time and paid her due. Let her integrates back to the society. Jun 26 15 03:55 pm Link ernst tischler wrote:
Jun 26 15 03:57 pm Link Axe murderers need not apply. Sorry. I have a gun. I have many guns. Jun 27 15 10:33 pm Link Jun 28 15 10:11 am Link For me it would just depend on the model and the circumstances. I've had more than one model I know get themselves into trouble. When they've gotten it resolved, they've come back and asked to work. I think you just have to look at each situation and judge it on its own merits. Jun 28 15 10:26 am Link Garry k wrote: I've never knowingly done so, but after 10 years and over 600 models, the odds are good that I have at least once, and there was at least one that I suspect was. Wolfstar Studio wrote: I don't differentiate shoots from other life activities, and I carrying whenever it's legal is the best practice. Jun 28 15 10:53 am Link I do not see why not as long as the conviction was not for murdering the last photographer they worked with.  Jun 28 15 11:09 am Link Patrick Walberg wrote: I agree with the "here and now", People make mistakes and learn from them. Others make mistakes, and just haven't been caught yet!!! Jun 28 15 03:20 pm Link 
Photographer Posts: 250 Academician Vernadskiy - permanent station of the Ukraine, Sector claimed by Argentina/Chile/UK, Antarctica Yes, but depending on the felony I may bring an armed escort Jun 28 15 03:55 pm Link Cash only. Next? And how were you paid? Jun 28 15 04:07 pm Link I think shooting a felon is a bit much, surely a prison sentence is enough. 😀 Jun 30 15 02:37 am Link In most cases you do not know whether somebody has a criminal record anyway... Besides this I believe in social rehabilitation and reintegration. By the way: 707 of 100,000 inhabitants of the US are in jail. (The second highst quota worldwide... Second to the Seychelles.) How many inhabitants of the US had been in jail at some point in their lives? 2,000 of 100,000? 3,000? 4,000? Some people even get arrested while shooting... And some crooks do not get arrested at all...  Jun 30 15 02:56 am Link It would depend on the felony committed, but if they were a violence or a property offence then probably not unless their case details convinced me otherwise. Jun 30 15 03:27 am Link Phoenix Digital Image wrote: This. In Florida being a Habitual Traffic Offender will net you a felony...not exactly the most dangerous of individuals. If the crime was violent AND random then I would not. Otherwise, I see no reason why I should turn away someone who has paid their penalty for their wrong. Jun 30 15 05:40 am Link I don't care about their criminal past, as long as it wasn't murdering their photographer or stealing camera equipment. If you only shoot people that have lead perfect lives or haven't done anything wrong in their past, you're not going to be taking a lot of pictures in your life. Jun 30 15 10:50 am Link Cwen wrote: True ... But most people READING those do not bother with the details once they see the name and location Jun 30 15 11:27 am Link I believe someone already stated this ... BUT , without doing an intensive background check ... How do you know that you haven't already worked with one who has a felony record ? Jun 30 15 11:33 am Link ontherocks wrote: Bath Salts Jun 30 15 11:45 am Link Garry k wrote: Just to clarify: Are you referring to shooting her with: Jun 30 15 12:01 pm Link Light and Lens Studio wrote: I realize that in the US - the term commonly has two meanings Jun 30 15 08:05 pm Link Sure, especially if she was still in prison. Jun 30 15 08:22 pm Link This was an interesting read. http://www.inmate.com/prison-articles/jail-babes.htm Jun 30 15 08:44 pm Link Light and Lens Studio wrote: Garry k wrote:
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