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Celebrity opinions?
Is it just me, or do you wish celebrities would just keep their political opinions to themselves? It's one thing if Udor publicly bashes Bush or I publicly bash Obama here...but when a celebrity does it, they stand to lose half their audience. Jane Fonda is an example...the most recent other negative example is Quentin Tarrantino and his "just call the murderers the murderers" rant at the BLM rally. I'm a huge Tarrantino fan, but this just called an end to paying to see his movies for me. Jan 04 16 03:58 pm Link I'm not worried about them loosing fans, but yes, I don't want to hear their political opinions anymore than I want to hear their religious beliefs. Goes for most people, actually. Jan 04 16 04:06 pm Link I'm friends with many people whose politics I disagree with. Celebrities are no different for me, I can appreciate their work without having to appreciate their personal political or religious views. Jan 04 16 04:11 pm Link Mortonovich wrote: Good point. At least when I see public posts, the same people who complain about celebrity political statements approve of a marginal football player praying in public. And vice versa. Jan 04 16 04:15 pm Link If they use the microphone known as celebrity to try to better the world, I'm all for it. Jan 04 16 04:46 pm Link Im guessing QT would be glad to lose people like the OP and his ilk as fans Jan 04 16 04:47 pm Link Most celebrities are bubble-heads living in a Hollywood bubble-world awash in money, drugs, over-inflated egos, parties and celebrity events where they are pranced around by their agents like show dogs with wardrobe malfunctions. Because they are movie celebrities does not mean they are credible beyond memorizing and regurgitating a script or because they pretend to be credible on camera. Many actors have poise and presence in character roles that are edited and enhanced, but are total blithering idiots when they ad lib in off-script interviews. For the most part, the Hollywood crowd is pretty screwed up. Same thing goes for the network and cable news readers. They are teleprompter readers, not there for their world experience or sage opinions. They are there as a decorated model in front of a camera who can read a teleprompter and emote feelings at the same time. Yes, when an actor starts shooting their mouth off about politics, they cut their fan base in half. That in itself proves that they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. Some celebrities understand this and keep their political views carefully guarded. Amongst celebrity actors, of course there are smart people who have skills and experience that transcends the rudimentary skills necessary to be a celebrity actor, but it's a minority. Does anyone think Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, or the girl with the tongue should be governor of a state because of their name brand recognition? If not, then why should we care who they choose to vote for? Jan 04 16 04:47 pm Link Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. But if they use their celebrity status to promote their political point of view. then their celebrity status is a fair game for gain/loss consequence. Jan 04 16 05:02 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: Apparently a lot of people do, given the success of Jan 04 16 05:21 pm Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: You're right! There are exceptions. Jan 04 16 05:53 pm Link Why should Why is it ok, in your mind, for a photographer or a model to talk about politics or whatever (sometimes to the detriment of their client base) but not OK for a movie actor? What's the difference? There are many Hollywood types (and business people and friends and family) whose opinions I find objectionable. If the other things they offer me in my life outweighs that then I will keep engaging with them. Otherwise I will stop patronizing their business or movies or walk away from whatever relationship I have with them. What's so hard about that? Jan 04 16 06:09 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: I'd say that the girl with the tongue can govern a good part of the region that has my skin as its natural border! Jan 04 16 06:14 pm Link There is always a disposable part of any demographic, the loss of which usually has a pretty negligible impact on the bottom line. People's priorities change, or they become ill, or they get old, or they die, etc, and as such cease being active consumers. So it goes. No biggie. There's always a influx of new consumers. I've observed this phenomena in running a content-merchandising business for 15 years. Out with the old blood, in with the new. It's good for business, and business is good. My wife and I obtain a great deal of entertainment value from watching YT content created by celebrities and non-celebrities alike who are enthusiastically speaking their minds, often espousing ideological positions entirely different from our own. I'm glad that we have a wealth of platforms from which anyone can offer their opinions and ideas. We live in very interesting times. Jan 04 16 06:15 pm Link why would anyone care what an actor/actress, director, cinematographer, etc have to say on anything, outside of their craft? the contract i have with these folks is their work. i'm more pissed when an actor i like gives a shit performance, or takes on a stupid role. it just baffles me how people would get upset (or gleeful) in regards to what someone in the public spotlight has to say. would their political beliefs really keep you from viewing their work? or make it more likely you'll see their work? in the context of the work itself, i've loved many a film (or performance) where i didn't necessarily agree with the political angles being espoused. i can still appreciate the art. as far as tarantino goes (specifically), i saw the trailer for the hateful eight, and a few commercials. it just looks dumb. i'll pass on seeing it in the theater, and just wait for the bluray. Jan 04 16 06:34 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: I can not think of any reasons why they should not be less able to voice their opinions than anyone else. Jan 04 16 06:47 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: If everyone who heard the "celebrity" voice their opinion treated that opinion just as the opinion of one person, no one would have any objection whatsoever. Jan 04 16 06:51 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: The OP specifically said he wishes that they wouldn't. Jan 04 16 06:53 pm Link Tarantino, Fonda, and even Jenny McCarthy have just as much right to say dumb shit as we do. And you are just as morally right to refrain from patronizing them as you do the guy that spouts hate speech while he makes your sandwich. No more, no less. Chuckarelei wrote: So here's a question: if a celebrity is part of an organization or movement, how do you determine whether or not they are using their celebrity status? When you book Jenny McCarthy on your talk show, how do you determine if you're booking a celebrity, or a mouthpiece for the anti-vaxxer movement? The movement gets plenty of ink without her, so clearly it's not all celebrity-based. What about Michael Moore, or Bob Dylan? Those guys got their celebrity specifically because they discussed issues. Once they're famous, do they not get to talk anymore? Jan 04 16 06:55 pm Link rfordphotos wrote: *shrug* that's on the listener not the speaker. Jan 04 16 06:55 pm Link rfordphotos wrote: Celebrity testimonials is a standard propaganda technique. Jan 04 16 07:01 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: Maybe to a large extent, yes. But if celeb endorsements were weighed as individual opinions, no one would bother asking for them. It is pretty damn cynical to continue pumping out the hype that they do--they know damn well what they are doing. The candidates are at least as responsible as the idiots who listen to the opinions---the candidates seek them out specifically aimed at demographics they know are low info voters. Jan 04 16 07:03 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: - 0 - Jan 04 16 07:05 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: Yes. That sounds like a wish they wouldn't, not that they shouldn't. Jan 04 16 07:13 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: No difference at all. Jan 04 16 07:18 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: Where do you get this stuff from? You are always building straw men. Now you are doubling down by adding "many" unnamed others to try to strengthen your bogus argument. Jan 04 16 07:24 pm Link Click Hamilton wrote: You're off in your fantasy land again click. Jan 04 16 07:38 pm Link Peter Claver wrote: Jan 04 16 07:44 pm Link rfordphotos wrote: How is this different than using money to amplify ones voice through donations and pacs? Jan 04 16 07:45 pm Link Tweet from Montel Williams: Totally fine with a massive use of deadly force in Oregon to take out Ammon Bundy. #OregonUnderAttack Does this mean we can stop watching Montel Williams too? Jan 04 16 08:29 pm Link In other news Halo 2 anniversary is better than star wars Jan 04 16 08:52 pm Link Isn't or doesn't it seem that if a celebrity wants to open their mouth and say something that is their opinion while losing half their audience ... it's up to them as it's their opinion and their career? Aren't the people you're talking about adults and fully responsible for their own words and actions? Jan 04 16 09:28 pm Link Celebs can club baby seals and not lose half their audience The .00001% dont matter Jan 04 16 09:39 pm Link rfordphotos wrote: And again ... We correct that how? Jan 04 16 10:41 pm Link Many actors are real good at acting. Acting is a completely different skill set than economics, foreign affairs, military strategy, etc. Most successful actors don't have a background in public service, or the military, or anything related to politics. Most of them don't even associate with us "little people" and couldn't even comprehend what it's like to not be a multi-millionaire. I'd be happy to take acting advice from some of them, but as for their political opinions, they of course are entitled to hold and express them, but they're no more weighty than any one else's opinion. I prefer to think of big actors as blank people... having no personality or human failings. That way there's nothing getting in the way of convincing me they are the character they're playing in a film. If an actor becomes too "in your face" off the screen, it's hard to push that aside when looking at that actor on the big screen. It gets even more difficult when you see them as someone you really don't like. Jan 04 16 11:04 pm Link Zack Zoll wrote: If i had that answer I would be king Jan 05 16 01:54 am Link I usually just assume they are passionate. I am right wing but am happy that there are passionate people on both sides of the aisle. I worked in the industry all my life and it's about a 20-1 in favor of being left wing. Most of the time I need to keep my mouth shut but I think it's great that there are good people on the left wing side too. I have many friends that are liberal and I am proud of them too. I do think it's weird when madonna with 5 houses and Elton John with 5 houses tells us about conserving our carbon footprint. Jan 05 16 02:21 am Link I never pay attention to celebrity opinions. Jan 05 16 06:41 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: I've only paid attention to celebrity opinion(s) just once that I know about and it wasn't even something they said. Jan 05 16 10:42 am Link I am with early film Director Harry Warner: Who wants to hear actors talk? Jan 05 16 11:09 am Link Click Hamilton wrote: I'm in full suport of Ammon Bundy’s group their patriots against a corrupt government, Good thing Janet Reno isn't around she would most likely burn them out. Jan 05 16 01:05 pm Link |
