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Canon 120MP DSLR Shows Off its Stuff at Canon Expo http://petapixel.com/2016/05/20/canon-1 … anon-expo/ Never mind the price because I know it will be expensive for the average photographer. But what I want to know is how many frames per second can it do. Since the file sizes coming out of this beast is topping out at 214mb how long will the camera lock up take? I wouldn't have to sit there during a fashion shoot or while shooting cityscape and have to sit there for 2 minutes while the processor spits out my image. Will the ISO exceed that of the Pentax 645Z? Is this Hasselblad slayer Canon fanboy's have been waiting for? I can't wait for the spec sheet even more so the release of this supposed machine... It comes with 120mp but will it be better than the Canon 5Ds/r or even the Canon 1DX? May 22 16 05:40 pm Link May 22 16 05:53 pm Link R.EYE.R wrote: Now why in the world would this help me when the body hasn't been released yet? May 22 16 06:19 pm Link R.EYE.R wrote: Now why in the world would this help me when the body hasn't been released yet? May 22 16 06:19 pm Link If this hits production it will sell, almost regardless of cost or speed. Even if it costs $20,000, I suspect many MF shooters would be willing to pay that for only using a single system - assuming DR is at least as good as the 5D, even if it needs to be shot at 100. I hope they can bring this to market. Canon hasn't been the 'best' at anything in several years. They've been 'best in class', but the only 'best' they've had recently is the 50mp 5D, and that's only what, 15% more than Sony? Enough to brag, but not enough to rest on. I like seeing everybody thrive. It can only mean good things for the industry as a whole. May 22 16 06:55 pm Link RedCapture wrote: So to get this straight...you want us, who don't work for Canon to give you full spec on a camera, information on which is not even disclosed to all Canon employees? May 22 16 07:12 pm Link Be interesting to see what it can do at High ISO in low light. I expect that Nikon will be releasing a camera with Full Format, two processors, and 50+ megapixels. May 22 16 07:13 pm Link RedCapture wrote: Jamming more pixels on a smaller chip isn't going to best MF. It's like asking if a 50MP APS-C is going to be better than current FF models. Increasing the sensor size gives you things you just can't get otherwise. May 22 16 08:21 pm Link I don't think you will be waiting 2 minutes your image. An entry level digital cinema camera you can go out and buy today poops out 60 4096x2160 uncompressed raw files per second. By my math, that equates to 4.4fps @120MP. On the high end, the red weapon spews 75 8k frames @8192 x 4320 per second which works out to just over 21fps at 120mp. In photography terms the weapon is a 35 MP mirror-less camera sporting a full frame sensor with 16.5 stops of dynamic range that shoots 75fps continuous burst. At some point it's no longer spraying and praying, its shooting video.  Cheers, Noah May 22 16 09:58 pm Link Sounds cool, but probably only in a mirrorless low vibration environment unless it's medium format. I don't care about frame rates and shoot only at ISO 100 so limitations don't worry me. I like pixel level editing and big prints. May 22 16 11:18 pm Link  May 22 16 11:35 pm Link RedCapture wrote: The right question is - does it ship with a box of hard drives and RAM May 23 16 02:18 am Link If my math is correct a 24x36mm frame at 120mp would have a pixel pitch of 2.7µm. You would need some very special glass indeed for such a camera. I mean you could put any lens on it and it would work, but only truly exceptional lenses would yield better results than what you could achieve with a 50mp sensor (and some modern lenses are outresolved even @ 50mp). You'd almost certainly have to stick with primes, a very heavy tripod, and mirror lockup mode to be able get the most out of the sharpness that a 120mp sensor could produce. Anything less and you'd just be getting bloated files that contain little more information than you could capture with a camera like the 5DS R. Think I'll pass. May 23 16 03:08 am Link We were skeptical when Nikon came out with a 36mp camera. It turned out fine. We were skeptical when Canon upped the ante to 50mp. It turned out fine. All conventional logic says that 120mp is pushing things even further into nether-nether land. Right now it is just a concept. Who knows, by the time it is released, we may be surprised ... or not. We really don't know if this is the fore-bearer of something that is in the works or merely the demonstration of technology. Either way, it is interesting. May 23 16 04:49 am Link Maxfield Photography wrote: It probably would come with something similar to a +mode on PhaseONE backs, where resolution is reduced to allow higher ISO - i.e shooting 120Mpx sensor at 50Mpx. May 23 16 05:47 am Link Granted, I do not understand electronic jargon. But I have a hard time believing that we can determine any given spec based solely on pixel pitch. If we could, many of us would still be using the first 5D. There is also the processor, and Sony has been advertising copper wiring in their cameras lately. I just assumed they were all built that way, but perhaps others use aluminum wiring, which has greater signal resistance. Maybe this guy uses silver wiring; even for a super thin wire, resistance over an inch or so would be so low as to be practically unmeasurable. That would be another way to increase DR or ISO performance, depending on how the processor works. It could also have improved heat sinks. Or it could use the old ones, which could potentially reduce those stats, since there's going to be more power going to the sensor. There are just way too many variables to really know anything right now. May 23 16 06:57 am Link R.EYE.R wrote:
May 23 16 07:01 am Link There are a lot of us in the 80-100mp range that are happy with the resolution, we want LARGER sensors (6x6/6x7) not smaller (35mm). May 23 16 07:10 am Link Im totally fuking rich so im gonna buy one as a status symbol and probably never understand most of the settings. ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) May 23 16 07:15 am Link Noah Russell wrote: Noah, it wasn't intended as a personal jab.. May 23 16 07:23 am Link Light and Lens Studio wrote: Could be this: http://thenewcamera.com/nikon-d850-rumo … ification/ May 23 16 07:40 am Link RedCapture wrote: Awesome... now plastic surgeons will be able to take perfect photos. 120MP guarantees museum quality images that will automatically be displayed in MoMA, the Whitney and the Guggenheim! May 23 16 07:54 am Link Gerardo Martinez wrote: LOL... I am with you... however, my main camera is the Nikon D800e and I don't understand most of the settings... all I care about is M, f-stop, ISO, WB, shutter speed and bracketing settings. May 23 16 07:57 am Link Gerardo Martinez wrote: Mr. Tengu wrote: Smart man, Mr. Tengu! May 23 16 08:01 am Link 120mp in a 24x36mm sensor? Isn't that a scaled up super zoom point n shoot? I would be very surprised to see this turn into a real product, unless it was for a very specialized application. May 23 16 08:47 am Link Robb Mann wrote: I've heard a similar line too many times to count. May 23 16 09:47 am Link Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: bingo for me. May 23 16 10:41 am Link What happened to people who think 20MP is enough? I have no interest in a 100MP+ camera on a 35mm sensor. What we need is a 6x7 sensor with 200MP+ at $8K or less (of course I am dreaming). May 24 16 12:04 pm Link I have to admit that my FIRST thoughts were along the lines of "the glass won't be sharp enough", "you'll need too high of a minimum shutter speed at that resolution (or a tripod)", etc, etc. My SECOND thoughts were how many times have I heard those exact same explanations in the past for why a new upper megapixel limit just wouldn't catch on. And how each time it actually DID catch on.  So while I personally can't quite comprehend (yet) the need for larger than 40 to 50 megapixels in a 35mm sensor size, or how that would even work realistically, history suggests that it's likely that somehow we'll all be happily using it at some point! May 24 16 01:41 pm Link Mr. Tengu wrote: Yep...same here...the basic things you need to make great images May 24 16 01:50 pm Link ChanStudio - OtherSide wrote: I'll pay way more than $8k for that. So will a lot of others. May 24 16 03:02 pm Link Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: I have one. I just need you to sign a contract promising me your firstborn son. May 24 16 03:57 pm Link Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: Zack Zoll wrote: Deal May 24 16 04:39 pm Link law of diminishing returns. May 24 16 04:47 pm Link Zack Zoll wrote: Few people who've shot MF would spend $20k on a small postage stamp size sensor (I'm being facetious) packed with pixels, a measly 1/250th sync speed that's practically the same as a slow 1/125 focal shutter. The 3:2 ratio in the opinion of many is less ideal compared to 4:3. Why would i want that lack of performance, when i can buy a used MF body cheaper or a new body near the end of the year when prices are slashed, and have great performance + all the bells and whistles? At this juncture, I'd rather shoot a MF body over the tiny Canons. Others may like the teeny-tiny form factor of cameras like the 5D series... I generally do not. May 24 16 06:59 pm Link ChanStudio - OtherSide wrote: That would sell like fatty food sells in Mississippi ! ... I'd have to snap one up myself. 6x7 or 6x9 in a MF body, as opposed to a huge toy-like film camera would be very ideal. Kids and many adults today would see a 6x7 camera and think it's a toy. May 24 16 07:05 pm Link Mr. Tengu wrote: More of us can relate to you than you probably think. Thumbs up. May 24 16 07:07 pm Link I'm personally waiting for the Sone A7s III hopefully Sony creates a sensor improvement that retains the low light capabilities at slightly higher megapixels. May 24 16 07:47 pm Link THIS ! Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: full frame 6x7 sensor @ 24mp (my sweet spot) ...... one can dream May 24 16 08:09 pm Link Teila K Day Photography wrote: I shoot with an RZ67ProIID all the time. No one thinks it's a toy. May 24 16 08:43 pm Link |
