Daniel Garay wrote:

fuckity fuck fuck fuck

FUCK.

LOL

CGI Images wrote:

There goes my fragile ego....  And I'm not exactly sure I want to she her "bank account", HOWEVER, there are a few models in your port I wouldnt object to running some numbers with.

OK, I overspoke.  I really dont want to see her hoohoo any more than she wants to see my puny bank account.

Miss Santos wrote:

The first one is someone elses breast just my tongue nothing I'd ever be ashamed of because it is artistic. The second one you can barely see anything.

I'm afraid I go with the opinion about you letting honey drip off another model's nipple onto your tongue would harm you just as much or more harm than nude body shots.  Although it was NUDE photos that surfaced to end Vanessa Williams' career as the first black Miss America, the double whammy was when "more scandalous" photos of her nude with another model came out.  In her speech stepping down as Miss America, she felt inclined to make the additional comment beyond just addressing nude photos to say that there was no ongoing sexual activity while the photos were being taken.  First of all, it is VERY possible that the photographer truly does intend that any portfolio shots will edit out your face although he was rather unprofessional to keep on about you doing nudes when you weren't comfortable with them.
IF you should become famous, it may well turn out that as a public figure, the photos may bite you in the ass. At that point, your career will be more affected by the way you handle it than by the photos themselves.  The way Vanessa Williams handled it was quite classy and her grace and determination to succeed long ago eclipsed the "scandal" and personally I remember how she handled adversity under the microscope better than I remember being "scandalized".  In Marilyn Monroe's case, she parlayed her nude calendar poses into superstar status and when someone asked her if she really didn't have anything on at the shoot, she quipped, "the radio."
Don't let it eat at you.  Many a good and successful actor has appeared nude in film and stills and its the person and the talent that ultimately wins out.  Handle everything with grace and you'll be fine.

Jessalyn wrote:
You are upset because you are going into acting and don't want those photos to surface later.

I'm curious then, what if these photos surfaced? They include nudity or implied nudity.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=4892657

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=6998908

American prudes see it all the same.

My god I have to agree....... you are worried about the nudes surfacing? You are practically nude  in most of your shots...... if not they seem highly sexually charged....... I wouldn't worry about the nudes.

Erik Lee wrote:

My god I have to agree....... you are worried about the nudes surfacing? You are practically nude  in most of your shots...... if not they seem highly sexually charged....... I wouldn't worry about the nudes.

Yes but she's not naked, everything is ok as long as its not completely naked, no lip, no nip and no balloon knot, and all is wholesome and good.  Duh.

Miss Santos wrote:
Last week for the first time I took nude photographs. The shoot was supposed to be implied but the photographer kept telling me he had to have body shots for his port since he had none and that my identity and face would remain anonymous. We took many artistic and commercial shots in black and white with white sheets. We did several poses and when I got my pictures back there were many were u could see everything genitals and all WITH my face exposed. I know at the time I let him take the photographs but NEVER did I intend on taking full nude pictures, probably my whole career. I plan on going into acting and if I ever make a name for myself I don't want these pictures to come back after me. I regret taking any full nudes. The other ones were cool now I'm uncomfortable and uneasy that there are nude pictures of me out there. What can I do? Yeah yeah I know I agreed at the time but I regret it now and I don't feel right. Is there anything I can do to protect my privacy?

A nipple dripping honey onto your tongue?  That's the raciest image in your port and you're worried about seeing your face and your pussy in the same shot?  Why don't you let me shoot you like this and your trip to hell will be complete:

http://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/pho … 3cfb51.jpg 18+

CGI Images wrote:

Yes but she's not naked, everything is ok as long as its not completely naked, no lip, no nip and no balloon knot, and all is wholesome and good.  Duh.

Balloon knot?  Is that the hoohoo or the squatflop?

Kirsten Anderson wrote:
What I find very interesting is that throughout the entire 5 pages of this thread, not one person seems to have questioned the photographers integrity.

The OP states that she told the photog she wasn't comfortable with full nudity, but he coerced her into doing it, with the promise that her face would not be captured.  Now it turns out her face is visible, and her privates are spread wide - I doubt the chances of him obliging her wishes at THIS point are slim, since he didn't seem to have any respect for them the first time around.

If he obliges her wishes, (and nobody ever comes across them on an internet porn site), then he regains some credibility.  If he doesn't, he's a snake.

Now the OP's integrity on the other hand, has gone through the ringer.  BUT regardless of what she has in her port already, people do have personal boundaries, and if she felt hers were crossed, than she is entitled to feeling that way.  In MY opinion I'd sooner have a tasteful b&w art nude in my port than the "controversial honey shot", but that is my preference. The OP clearly has a different set of standards as to what she deems acceptable, and she's entitled to that.

My guess is what happened was that, based on the types of images the OP has in her port, the photog figured he could push her a little further for his own agenda.  And now we're back to the age-old debate:
If a girl dresses like a slut to when she goes to a bar, and gets assaulted, is it her fault because "she asked for it"?

I know this was posted several pages ago, but I just had to chime in with a round of applause for your level-headed reply here. It's not just her lack of judgement we need to question, it's the photographer who obviously is a snake and should be dealt with as professionally as possible (or flog him, whatever).

Being that I have been in the OP's shoes before myself and have been coerced by photographers for images that I was NOT comfortable with and then was later lied to about distribution- as much as I wanted to look in the mirror like I was completely innocent (and to a degree I was), I knew I couldn't because I had it coming to me. I was a grown adult at the time, I should have known my rights, I should have known better, and I should have cared more about myself and my future than to sit there and allow a photographer to bully me into a shoot that could potentially come back to haunt me.

I know I've posted a thread on here before about ahole photographers, but the lesson I learned from it is, nobody's going to take care of you in this industry for you- that's YOUR responsibility. YOU work out the details of what will and will not be shot BEFORE the shoot, and when the photographer "flips the script" in the studio, you grab your crap and sashe the hell on out! Don't feel bad for the photographer, he'll find another girl to victimize and if he was legit, he wouldn't have comprimised the shoot by making last minute suggestions like that to make you feel uncomfortable in the first place. Stand up for yourself and learn to say no- learn to tell when people are taking advantage of you, because this probably wont be the last time you come across this type of situation. Sorry if I come off as passionate about the subject, I just feel that models have to take a certain amount of responsibility for these things too. No one can attempt to abuse your images if you don't give them images to abuse!

Seeing as the OP is so mindful of her hopeful, future career, she should also be mindful of every step she takes to get to that career.


Just my $.02. Take it for what it's worth.

Miss Santos wrote:
I actually understand how this may sound contradictory. I do. What I never asked was how people feel about the images already in my port. That fact that I may be a famous actress or not is very irrelevant at this point. I never asked to be critiqued about the nature of my existing port or if they are TASTEFUL or not. No matter how sexual or whatever you all are judging them as I never want certain parts of my body documented and that's by my own personal discretion and reason. This was taken way too far out of context. The facts are though that I did take these photos and I agreed upon it at the time so now there's nothing to do with it. And I don't think they will come back to haunt me. Its just the fact that I know someone may be able to view one part of my body because its MY personal choice and reason even IF other parts ARE EXPOSED. Its something I WILL discuss nicely with my photographer and that no I can't take back.

*sigh* so naive

The skeletons in the closet will always try to come out to play.

Unless someone opens up the door and lets them out........


Which if you're trying to be in the spotlight and be famous, that's exactly what's going to happen.

sammie cartwright wrote:
the guy sounds like a pervert, im sorry but I think getting a model down to do art nudes then pressuring her into doing glamour nudes and lying about no face exposure is disgusting, I'd call the police - pay him off you guys have to be having a laugh - this guy deserves a beating not a cheque.

i dont think anyone was holding a gun to her head when she was being photographed...?.... she is a big girl, and should of had stopped it when she felt it was wrong....

peter leverett wrote:

i dont think anyone was holding a gun to her head when she was being photographed...?.... she is a big girl, and should of had stopped it when she felt it was wrong....

To play devil's advocate here, I'll step up and say that some photographers can get downright mean if they think it'll get you to do what they want. Some will threaten legal action, some threaten the whole "you'll never work in this town again" bs, and some just threaten to threaten. It can be really intimidating when you're in the situation- it's only after the shoot that you remember that you had power all along. And once you give that power away... there's no going back, not with snakes. The only way to prevent it is to educate yourself against it.