Forums > Photography Talk > THE semi official gallery info and how to thread!

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Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

So you've taken great thought provoking images and want to show them off!

What do you do next?
How do you find a venue?
What's the best way to print & frame?
What size should the finished art be?
Should I consider gallery aesthetics or architecture when framing?


It seems worthwhile to start a MM discussion on the in and outs of gallery shows.
I'd be interested in hearing both from people looking for shows or who have shown...
as well as people who have run shows or who curate these events.


Anything related to gallery shows is open for discussion........
Framing, food, materials, hanging, lighting, music, publicity, experiences.....
And I will try to create a few post at the beginning for resource links


Ohhhhh........ FYI...........
This was inspired by Misty's "Anyone ever did a photo exhibit at a gallery?" thread.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=385140

Dec 17 08 11:13 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Framing links.....


Yep this box is simply links for places to buy frames (hopefully discounted)
And if you are local to one of the big shops you can often pick up your order and save time and money on shipping.

Frame Fit (Philadelphia PA)
http://www.framefit.com/

Framatic
http://www.framatic.com/

Frames by Mail (Missouri)
http://Framesbymail.com

MATcutters.com (Georgia)
http://matcutter.com/

American Frame
http://www.americanframe.com/

Dec 17 08 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Other resources.... still to be listed.......

Dec 17 08 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

"everyone should use black metal frames"...... and other common frame myths


Contrary to popular opinions not all photo frames need to be black,
and I personally hate metal frames,

Metal frames are inexpensive...... and that fact is often kinda obvious.
I'm not going to say that I will flat out reject an art submission that is framed in tubular metal frames.......
But it's not going to help your case.


Frames should be chosen based three main criteria,
1) they should complement the work
2) they should fit the show or space that they are intended for
3) they should be of reasonably good quality


Black is often chosen for photography because it usually works, it's non obtrusive and it's considered "traditional".
But there are many other options that may or may not work better.

If you are submitting framed work to a large traditional juried show you probably want to go with black as many jurors like it and it's what most other people will submit in (so it's easier to fit your work in with others)

But if you are showing a body of a dozen images in a series you should pick what best fits that work. I've framed images for shows in Black, Silver, Gold, Rosewood, Oak........ what ever fits the space and the images.

Dec 17 08 11:15 am Link

Photographer

Magnus Hedemark

Posts: 4281

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

Excellent idea for a sticky thread, if it doesn't get crapped on and it fleshes out well.

Dec 17 08 11:18 am Link

Photographer

Wolfs Eye Photography

Posts: 1830

Wills Point, Texas, US

This is a subject I'll be watching.

So far whatever work I've been able to show has been because Ive gone out and done the foot work. It wasn't until I did some Giclee prints that I've been able to show some of my work in a gallery. But then things are a little different in the country.
I'm having talks this week with another gallery hoping to show some work.

Dec 17 08 11:21 am Link

Photographer

Bosaiya

Posts: 1772

Sumner, Washington, US

Dec 17 08 11:23 am Link

Photographer

Bosaiya

Posts: 1772

Sumner, Washington, US

(I'll try this again)

Getting shows

Step one: register on ArtDeadlines.com
Step two: create search agents on ArtDeadlines.com
Step three: check your email

Works for me.

Dec 17 08 11:26 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

lots of people wrote:
Ready made and Clip Frames are a good money saving idea........

Well.... yes and no!


Lets start with clip frames.....
Or should I say "don't start with clip frames"

Clip frames are almost always a bad idea.
They are inexpensive and more often than not look cheap.
cheap looking frames cheapens your work.......
and many galleries will not show them.

It is possible to use clip frames in a good way,
But you really need to know what you are doing
and should have a reason for doing it.



Ready Made Frames.........
Ok.... I'll say it..... Most ready made frames suck.
But if you know what you are looking for there are some good ones out there,
and they can save you some money.

Solid wood is good....
Paper wrapped particle board is not.
Plastic is rarely a positive thing,
and overly busy or brightly colored frames rarely work.


I've said it before.....
this is your work and a crappy presentation devalues your work.


Poor framing can cost you more than you save.

1) You work may sell for less or not at all as a result of poor framing
2) galleries my decline to show your work as a result of poor framing
3) poor frames may actually result in damage to your work
4) people who might ask to see additional work or who might hire you for commissioned work may be turned off by shoddy presentation

Dec 17 08 11:47 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Bosaiya wrote:
Step one: register on ArtDeadlines.com

Interesting link..... I'll have to check this out.

Dec 18 08 08:04 am Link

Photographer

Julia Dando

Posts: 1328

Plymouth, England, United Kingdom

Bosaiya wrote:
(I'll try this again)

Getting shows

Step one: register on ArtDeadlines.com
Step two: create search agents on ArtDeadlines.com
Step three: check your email

Works for me.

Is there anything for non-US peeps on there?  or is it mainly a US thing?  Obviously I can't see without subscribing and I don't want to subscribe if there is nothing in the UK.

Cheers.

Dec 18 08 08:09 am Link

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KRB Photography

Posts: 498

Stuart, Florida, US

Since my gallery material is mostly black & white, the use of a black frame with white "ragmat" is best.  It makes the image pop!

Dec 18 08 08:13 am Link

Photographer

Light Writer

Posts: 18391

Phoenix, Arizona, US

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Dec 18 08 08:48 am Link

Photographer

Bosaiya

Posts: 1772

Sumner, Washington, US

Julia Dando wrote:

Is there anything for non-US peeps on there?  or is it mainly a US thing?  Obviously I can't see without subscribing and I don't want to subscribe if there is nothing in the UK.

Cheers.

I'm only reading what it says on the site:

"Today! 1860 Local-National and International Deadline listings"

I've gotten a few calls from outside the US, but not nearly as many. When I talked to colleagues in Europe and the UK I was told that the galleries work differently in those places. More of a pay-to-play situation, or so they told me.

I don't recall shipping being astronomical using the slow-boat-to-China method, so you might just consider submitting to some US listings! It'll probably increase your chances quite a bit as anyone non-local seems to have a higher value because of the foreign-factor. You're more exotic. This is the art world, it doesn't have to make sense, it only needs to have a higher perceived value!

Dec 18 08 09:09 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Do your Research --- AKA, Know your market

Niall commented on this earlier.... and he was so on the mark.
Submitting to the wrong gallery,
or submitting the wrong work to the right gallery is a waste of everyones time.

Every gallery has it's nitch......
just a little research will reveal usually what they show.
Sometimes that research can be as easy as showing up at a couple of their openings and checking out the work.
Reading through their website will also often tell you all you need to know.

If a gallery only shows landscapes.... then submitting nudes tends to be pointless.
If a gallery only shows painters..... then submitting photographs seems pointless.
If a gallery specializes in bright modernist art... don't apply with lovely little landscapes


I'm involved in new member selection at a cooperative gallery in Philadelphia.
The gallery has a tradition of providing space for non commercial art.
We are big into Audio art, Video art, Interactive art, Performance art.......
Anyone who visited out space or website should be able to pick up on that.
We do take photographers and painters....
but they need to be pushing the traditional boundaries of their craft.

Where I'm going with this is.......
We get a lot of submissions that just don't fit our space.
And it's obvious that it does not fit.
So someone has wasted a lot of time putting together materials to submit to us.
And the shame is that in many of the cases the work is good and I can name another gallery within 5 miles where it would likely be accepted.


Researching where you want to apply saves you time in the end by weeding out the places where you have no chance of being selected.

Dec 18 08 01:39 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12963

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Should I tailor the work to fit the space?

If you have the opportunity to design a show to fit a particular space it can heighten the impact that the show has on the audience.

The Philadelphia Based group Dissentia Curatorial Services designed most of their shows around an idea or location and received a fair amount of attention in part because of it.

www.dissentia.com

a perfect example was the Outhouse/Inhouse show,
In this show the showing space was a run down attic above an existing gallery.
The decision to build humble outhouses in the attic to house mini instillations was a perfect fit, and the decision to cover the floor in sawdust and play scratchy old blues tracks made for a show that you could see, touch, smell and hear.

https://www.dissentia.com/outhouse/Ao15.jpg

https://www.dissentia.com/outhouse/Ao21.jpg

This type of show may not always be the best selling set up,
But none the less can make quite and impact on people.

Dec 31 08 08:00 am Link