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Photographer

INKEDividuals

Posts: 4023

Seattle, Washington, US

Stanley L Moore wrote:

Like antipathy towards males? The man is bound and obviously in a submissive position. Most bondage scenes involve women.

That may be true in the realm of pay per view BDSM porn, but in the real world of BDSM, lots of men are tied and otherwise bound

Jan 18 13 04:04 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Naturally being gay I realize that many men are into bondage. Did never appealed to me. Maybe because I am considered to be a co. ntrol freak. I deny it because I can control very little. I'm considering a shoot that involves Japanese bondage. But I need to find someone who knows how to tie the knots.

Jan 18 13 06:32 pm Link

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billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

MM Overlords,
Any way to delete my entry for today...I submitted a low res thumb instead
of the full size image...sorry!

Jan 21 13 01:34 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

billy badfinger wrote:
MM Overlords,
Any way to delete my entry for today...I submitted a low res thumb instead
of the full size image...sorry!

Checked today's uploads and yesterday's uploads in the PotD, PotD18+F and the PotDM and couldn't find any entry from your account.

Jan 21 13 02:53 pm Link

Photographer

billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Sorry,it's on TODAY'S vote page...I only realized what I had done when I went to
vote (for myself!) and saw that the pic was all jaggy and funky...
I figured it was too late to do anything but,thought I would ask.
Thank you as always.

Jan 21 13 07:02 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

billy badfinger wrote:
Sorry,it's on TODAY'S vote page...I only realized what I had done when I went to
vote (for myself!) and saw that the pic was all jaggy and funky...
I figured it was too late to do anything but,thought I would ask.
Thank you as always.

It's gone wink

Jan 21 13 10:37 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Did JoJo have the night off last night?  Today's seems to be kicked up a notch or two.

Multiple
Male
Genitalia
et al

Jan 22 13 04:10 am Link

Photographer

Mark Leighton

Posts: 147

Lagos, Algarve, Portugal

Agreed. There is one clear violation of the rules and another which I would say is against them but could be borderline. In the Mens 18+

Jan 22 13 07:46 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Gee.... I must've missed those. I shall have to wait till tomorrow to check them out.

Jan 22 13 10:44 am Link

Photographer

MalePortfolios

Posts: 126

Anaheim, California, US

Mark Leighton wrote:
Agreed. There is one clear violation of the rules and another which I would say is against them but could be borderline. In the Mens 18+

I saw 2 in today's 18+ contest that make me wonder how they got in the contest. JoJo must have taken a well-deserved night off....

Update: Thanks for such a quick response, JoJo! Sorry about your router. Glad you got it resolved! -g

Jan 22 13 11:52 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Gaze at Photography wrote:
Did JoJo have the night off last night?  Today's seems to be kicked up a notch or two.

Multiple
Male
Genitalia
et al

No - JoJo's router decided to die - try getting a replacement router at 02:00am.

Jan 22 13 12:01 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

JoJo wrote:

No - JoJo's router decided to die - try getting a replacement router at 02:00am.

My condolences. Flowers?  It's so obvious when you aren't at the helm.

Jan 22 13 12:37 pm Link

Photographer

Shutterbug

Posts: 202

San Francisco, California, US

It seems that SENDU has died as well.

Jan 22 13 02:18 pm Link

Photographer

billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Hi JoJo,
Thanks for removing that pic for me...prob saved me from a
last place finish!!!

Jan 22 13 03:22 pm Link

Model

Kaela Kino

Posts: 77

Austin, Texas, US

https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

This link appears to be no longer working, at least for me. I've tried accessing it the past few days on multiple browsers and it doesn't work. Is there a different way to access this tool? It's been very useful to me as I have a hard time remembering when I've entered what! Thanks!

Jan 22 13 06:33 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Sendu is aware of the problem and will click the clicky clicky when he returns to his ranch.

Let's do it the old fashioned way, shall we?

Jan 22 13 06:55 pm Link

Photographer

billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Just noticed that JoJo hit 20,000 posts yesterday....
That's kinda' cool in some ways and NOT in others...

Anyway...thanks for being so generous with us all!!!

Jan 22 13 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

INKEDividuals

Posts: 4023

Seattle, Washington, US

Really odd bug today in the 18+ female contest

I tried to vote for 3 images.  Got an error saying I could only pick 3, please go back on select 3.

Thinking I might have hit a stray, I click Back on my browser (Chrome Version 24.0.1312.56 m on a Win 7 pro machine) and 3 DIFFERENT images are selected. 

I clear them out and select TWO of the original three, and it happens again.  Also selecting 3 images I hadn't selected before.

3rd time must be a charm as I once again get the error, click Back and select only ONE and it sticks.

No, I don't have screenshots.

Jan 28 13 03:41 pm Link

Photographer

Natural eye

Posts: 10

PARKER FORD, Pennsylvania, US

Lifestyle_Images wrote:
3 DIFFERENT images are selected.

That's because the vote page is built to display the images in random order each time the page loads (for fairness I assume).

Jan 30 13 03:11 am Link

Photographer

Eye of the World

Posts: 1396

Corvallis, Oregon, US

However, when you click back, whatever links were originally activated by checking the boxes should either be maintained no matter what the display order, or they should be erased completely so NOTHING is checked. The programming should not be making up votes.

Jan 30 13 02:54 pm Link

Photographer

Nelia

Posts: 2166

San Francisco, California, US

I just accidentally submitted an image a second time for the POTD 18+ contest.  When I checked my submissions using Sendu's POTD 15 day checker, the image did not show up:

https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/?mm_id=15013

Please delete the duplicate image.  Thanks!

Edit:  I just realized that I submitted the image from my other account.  Still please delete the image I just submitted today.

Feb 05 13 06:50 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Nelia wrote:
I just accidentally submitted an image a second time for the POTD 18+ contest.  When I checked my submissions using Sendu's POTD 15 day checker, the image did not show up:

https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/?mm_id=15013

Please delete the duplicate image.  Thanks!

Edit:  I just realized that I submitted the image from my other account.  Still please delete the image I just submitted today.

Thanks for the heads-up... I'll remove the second posting wink

Feb 05 13 10:41 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

How many of us vote based on the Thumbnail? Or do you click through and actually view the photo prior to voting.

The Thumbnail certainly gets our attention, but is that enough, or is another inspection necessary?

What's your theory on those that do vote?

Feb 09 13 11:05 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

I often vote just on the thumb. But if I have 3

Mors than 3a I like or am in doubt I open the big version

Feb 09 13 11:49 pm Link

Photographer

David Stone Imaging

Posts: 1032

Seattle, Washington, US

Good question.  I often use a laptop, so I will enlarge an image.  Makes all the difference.

However, I don't think most do this.  The reason I say this is I cannot recall a photo that was wider than high ever winning.  And I think the reason is that the thumbnail for this kind of image is just too small to get attention.

Feb 10 13 02:25 am Link

Photographer

Kent Art Photography

Posts: 3588

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

David Stone Imaging wrote:
...The reason I say this is I cannot recall a photo that was wider than high ever winning.  And I think the reason is that the thumbnail for this kind of image is just too small to get attention.

Of course, immediately you say that, one wins the male comp.

I often click through, but not always.  But it's not a real photography competition, anyway - most people vote for pictures they like, not pictures they consider to be good photographs.  It's the crowd pleaser that usually wins.

Feb 10 13 02:38 am Link

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David Stone Imaging

Posts: 1032

Seattle, Washington, US

Funny...that is so typical.  My first submission into the 18+ female contest was a horizontal photo...and I immediately realized it was too small to hardly get any attention.  They just don't get the real estate the vertical photos enjoy.  I even noticed recently that a frequent contest winner rotated his image to be vertical...and it won.

As far as the contests being about real photography...vs. crowd pleasers - I don't think there is any incentive for anyone to spend the time truly assessing the photographic aspects.  I scan a half-dozen thumbnails...look at them...then vote.

Feb 10 13 03:24 am Link

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INKEDividuals

Posts: 4023

Seattle, Washington, US

Wow.... this must be a new record.  9 (NINE) non-18+ images based on MM rules and one image with a finger inserted into a vagina made it through to voting today.

Must be those pesky code bugs that no one will fix. ;-)

Feb 10 13 09:50 am Link

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Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Lifestyle_Images wrote:
Wow.... this must be a new record.  9 (NINE) non-18+ images based on MM rules and one image with a finger inserted into a vagina made it through to voting today.

Must be those pesky code bugs that no one will fix. ;-)

No bugs. It's what ppl send in.  Some of those I think are not safe for work, which means they should be in the 18+, others are clearly not 18+

But that doesn't bother me.

What you should do, is cam them all.

Feb 10 13 10:15 am Link

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INKEDividuals

Posts: 4023

Seattle, Washington, US

Gaze at Photography wrote:
No bugs. It's what ppl send in.  Some of those I think are not safe for work, which means they should be in the 18+, others are clearly not 18+

But that doesn't bother me.

What you should do, is cam them all.

I was being sarcastic as "bugs" have been used by some to excuse lots of things on this site that don't happen the way they are supposed to, usually when the ball dropper was a Mod or Admin.

As far as CAMing, I'm done helping the Mods do their job.

Feb 10 13 10:47 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Lifestyle_Images wrote:
Wow.... this must be a new record.  9 (NINE) non-18+ images based on MM rules and one image with a finger inserted into a vagina made it through to voting today.

Must be those pesky code bugs that no one will fix. ;-)

"and one image with a finger inserted into a vagina"

WOW!!! you must have great vision to actually see this.

When I validate the contests I use only my browser (Chrome) set at 125% zoom.
On occasion I zoom to 150% and rarely to 200%.

On the image you mention I zoomed to the maximum of Chrome, 500%...
I then loaded the image into PhotoShop and zoomed in to 1600%.
I wanted to make absolutely sure that there was no actual (explicit) insertion/penetration. There was none.

What you see is implied... and acceptable.



As for the 9 non 18+ images - who's interpretation of the rules are you using?

There are 2 image in the contest that do not properly qualify as 18+ images according to the rules... but these 2 images contain "too much" to be properly classified as acceptable in the PotD.
The submitters of both of these images have read and understand the rules correctly and have chosen to enter the images in the PotD18+.

(and yes, there are images on MM that are "too much" for the PotD but "not enough" for the PotD18+)

Feb 10 13 12:14 pm Link

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JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Lifestyle_Images wrote:
As far as CAMing, I'm done helping the Mods do their job.

Dare I say “Hallelujah”? wink

Feb 10 13 12:24 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Back from a word from our sponsors...

we get back to the thick of things here:

Do you vote on the thumbnail, or do you click through prior?

Feb 10 13 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

Ron T Photo

Posts: 1

Chico, California, US

I accidentally posed an image that was used less than 15 days ago. Can it be removed from the 18+ contest please?

Feb 10 13 05:19 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Ron T Photo wrote:
I accidentally posed an image that was used less than 15 days ago. Can it be removed from the 18+ contest please?

It will be taken care of - thanks for the heads-up wink

Feb 10 13 10:24 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Gaze at Photography wrote:
Do you vote on the thumbnail, or do you click through prior?

First, a rant....

How many photographers take the time (or have the inclination) to reduce their finished work down to avatar size or contest thumb size before they release the image?
The presentation of the thumbnail in the contest is VERY important.
Most photographers and retouchers have never thought to do this. They figure the thumbnail is just the small version of their work.
Take a look at the photographers that consistently win - why do their thumbnails in the contest always look so much better than anyone else's entries?
These people know how to 'present' their work... and they win.

Next time you are about to enter an image, stop - reduce the image down to thumb size and take a long look at the thumbnail. What can you do to make the thumbnail look better?
You may say the full sized pic and the thumb are identical... and you would be both correct and incorrect. The two pics ARE the same but if you really take time to look you will "see" different things in the thumb/full sized pic.

No, JoJo has not been smoking her old socks - make your thumbnails POP and you WILL increase your vote standing in the contests - this is called 'presentation' and it DOES work wink


Now to answer your question...

A small percentage of voters vote just on the thumbnail - their loss.
A smaller percentage of voters just look for the pic they came to vote on - they never look at the other entries.
A very small percentage of voters actually vote from their phones/hand-helds in text-only mode.

During MM's image server problems there were entries that received multiple votes on pics that did not exist... even the thumbs did not exist.

The rest, the vast majority, actually look at the big pics before they vote.

Feb 10 13 11:08 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Very interesting. I often vote from my phone. I can usually tell from the thumb an image I do NOT want to vote for.  Sometimes I cannot make out the image so I enlarge. I am most likely to click the thumb of the winners and top runners up especially if I didn't vote for them.

Feb 11 13 07:39 am Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Get out there and make those thumbs look great!

Feb 11 13 11:13 am Link

Photographer

David Stone Imaging

Posts: 1032

Seattle, Washington, US

JoJo wrote:
First, a rant....

How many photographers take the time (or have the inclination) to reduce their finished work down to avatar size or contest thumb size before they release the image?

Next time you are about to enter an image, stop - reduce the image down to thumb size and take a long look at the thumbnail. What can you do to make the thumbnail look better?

What are the magic numbers?  I will do whatever it takes to present my images properly.

Feb 11 13 06:02 pm Link

Photographer

Erin Koski

Posts: 24180

Ojai, California, US

I love the recommendation about reviewing your work at thumb size before submitting.  It's a fantastic idea and I wish I'd realized it on my own.

As to the question of if I vote small or large - I try to enlarge any image before I vote for it, but have not always done that. I try to, based  on having an experience where I saw a pic I really liked, but upon enlarging it I saw it wasn't focused well at all.

I do not bother if the thumb doesn't inspire me.

-Erin

Feb 11 13 06:44 pm Link