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Model
Eff
Posts: 466
Spokane, Washington, US


I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?
Jan 20 10 08:40 am  Link  Quote 
Model
John Ujjjjjjj Xghp
Posts: 2,298
Ķızıltepa, Navoi, Uzbekistan


Hey, I'm not a photographer, but I was wondering... is all the personal information necessary? Like your e-mail and a map of where you live? I feel like that's more dangerous than anything.

If someone requests your address, you can PM it to him/her.

Just an idea.

Your profile's pretty long, so I would recommend you trim it down a bit.
Jan 20 10 08:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Swank Photography
Posts: 19,015
Key West, Florida, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

First off I DO look at their port.

In their port I look for the following:

* Headshots
* Full body shots

Then I look at their profile.

For their profile, I am looking for the following information:

* Personality.

* Preference (what type of modeling are they seeking? What type of modeling are they good at? ETC.)

* Experience (if any, what level and (again) what type?

* Pay (paid only models rarely get more than a glance from me, sorry. But I would work out a TFCD deal if model can provide  good images for my work as well.) Let me also add here that I will pay for a model if the model can provide images that I need as well (and if their experience is in comparison to their pay request).

* Travel. I need to know if the model is willing to travel to me (or to a shoot location) or if I can only travel to them.

* Modeling time frame (can model only work on weekends? Do they have another job? ETC).


Notice the first one I said I am looking for is personality.

Don't try to "wow" me with a list of your food/hobby/relationship likes, etc. Give me something more...something about you as a model and as a person.

If you are quirky and like to laugh alot great...if you are dead serious and prefer to do modeling on a very serious note then fine as well. Just let me now so that I know how to work you into my portfolio.

Also...communication is a strong key with me. If I am taking time out of my day to email you and request that you call me so that we can discuss this further then please do so.

Jan 20 10 08:50 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Eff
Posts: 466
Spokane, Washington, US


Lisa Levin wrote:
Hey, I'm not a photographer, but I was wondering... is all the personal information necessary? Like your e-mail and a map of where you live? I feel like that's more dangerous than anything.

If someone requests your address, you can PM it to him/her.

Just an idea.

Your profile's pretty long, so I would recommend you trim it down a bit.

I actually just finished rewriteing my profile. It's not any shorter though... :p

Jan 20 10 09:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Swank Photography
Posts: 19,015
Key West, Florida, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

By the way...I just looked at your updated profile and very much liked what I read.

Too bad you are not in my area. If I am in your area however in the future, count on me giving you a heads up for further discussion about a shoot or two.

Take Care,

Sue M. Swank
http://www.swank-photography.com

Jan 20 10 09:10 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Angele Fonce
Posts: 5,157
Dayton, Ohio, US


I would change this

"I am open to nudes. but I am NOT open to vulgar, raunchy ones. I like my nudes artistic with a hint of sexy, not sexy with a hint of (or no) artistic element. I'm not going to be applying for playboy,so I'm not interested in taking photos that make it appear that I am."

I would reword it so no one will see your profile and take offense. Many photographers shoot glamour nudes/playboy nudes and may pass over you even if they do some of the same genres as you.
Jan 20 10 09:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jay Lee Studios
Posts: 1,238
San Diego, California, US


Coming from a newbie photographer not that it will matter to you but....I look for personality, The model needs to "fun" There are a few models I have chatted with and hope to one day shoot that seem pleasant. Any model that is on this site and her port is declaring she is a diva I will hit next and not even look at her images. I like people who are down to earth no matter what they look like or how good they are. Being humble but confident is a must.  Models whos pictures portray a lack of experience but request big high dollar amounts I bypass as well.
So fun, confident, humble, realistic and sweet and to the point. Their preferences about nude or non nude don't matter to me since I am not even looking to shoot nudes at this point. Also their life and personal relationships I don't need to know about this isn't myspace or facebook. No need to add all that for us.
Jan 20 10 09:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Leo Howard
Posts: 6,790
Phoenix, Arizona, US


I want to know only certain things from your profile:

Name, Age, Height, Weight, Hair Color, Eye Color, And maybe a description of your current look.

I don't want to know about your life and that you are working on getting your GED, or Degree in advance tom foolery and bio kinetic sulfur enriched engineering. If you feel you must include all this stuff, include it after the most important information ( which should be at the top )

in your portfolio, I would like to see a good headshot, might be nice to see one without any makeup or photoshop, but a headshot would be good, a 3/4 shot and a full length shot.
Jan 20 10 09:28 am  Link  Quote 
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Marc Damon
Posts: 6,562
Biloxi, Mississippi, US


I didn't read your profile so this is not a critique.

What I look for other than a model having the right look for what I'm shooting is fairly simple.

-Show your correct stats. Don't say you're 5'10" if you have to wear 5" heels to get there. Don't tell me you weigh 120 lbs when you're really 150 lbs. Show your current hair color, length and style.
-Don't come across as a drama queen, a diva or someone who is difficult to work with when planning or shooting. Doing that will instantly separate you from at least half the other models here.
-State your limits on travel, nudes, and working with other models.
-List any relevant or special talent, skills or training you have such as dance, cheerleading, acting, singing, sewing, martial arts, and belching the alphabet.
-Make sure that photographers with photos in your portfolio will give you a good reference.
-Not required but helpful... Tell me what you're most interested in shooting. Pinup? Fashion? Bondage? Create a list with examples that inspire you in those areas and update it often.
-Make your profile organized easy to read. Flashy things and twirling text may be pretty but it's distracting. Keep images on your profile page to a minimum or at least put them below the text I want to read. Don't make me squint and scroll for 30 minutes to find what I need to know about you. Don't type in all caps and use bold text or lines only to separate important sections.
Jan 20 10 10:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Swank Photography
Posts: 19,015
Key West, Florida, US


Marc Damon wrote:
-Show your correct stats. Don't say you're 5'10" if you have to wear 5" heels to get there. Don't tell me you weigh 120 lbs when you're really 150 lbs. Show your current hair color, length and style.

I forgot this one and it is VERY IMPORTANT

Jan 20 10 10:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
picturephoto
Posts: 8,687
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

I look for accurate stats (including body mods), availability, an agency name where applicable, and the kind of work the model is looking for, that's it.  Not really interested in past experience, education, dreams and aspirations or anything remotely personal.  I never read giant lists of credits, 99% of it means nothing to me anyway.

Jan 20 10 10:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Imageography
Posts: 6,768
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada


Brief and to the point is what keeps my attention.

I appreciate if a model likes to party and hang with friends and go to the beach, but it does nothing for me and my upcoming shoot.

If that information could be put at the bottom, and a strong, well worded first paragraph just covering the basics, it will definitely attract more viewers.

A grocery list of things you don't do

eg

(I don't do nudes, I bring an escort, I don't do this and that) ..
Jan 20 10 10:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sleepy Weasel
Posts: 4,619
Castle Rock, Colorado, US


Needs to be brief and concise. I didn't read yours - it's too long.

Leave out anything that isn't important, like how many dogs you have, your favorite color, if you're going to school, what you're studying there, etc...

DO mention: your modeling interested, type of shoots you want to do, if you have references, where you're willing to travel to shoots, other shooting conditions, etc.

Some people like to write how dependable they are, what their attitude is, who their influences are, why they got itno modeling, etc. Unless it's relevant to you getting a job or what kind of work you're looking for, we don't need to know. It just gets in the way.
Jan 20 10 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JEBKA Photography
Posts: 3,974
Firestone, Colorado, US


My life is fact based.
I don't care that you aspire to be in playboy.
I don't care that you just changed your hair color and aren't happy with it.
I don't care that you had a bad experience and that is why you insist on bringing Sluggo.

Just the facts please.

Stats
Availability limitations
Other restrictions.  example:  I insist on bringing Sluggo.  I do not shoot nude work, etc.

No excuses.  No explainations.  Just facts
Jan 20 10 10:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
rainbottle
Posts: 370
Charlottesville, Virginia, US


In no particular order of importance:

Someone who presents herself as serious about what she's doing and what she wants.
Any info regarding tats, piercings, hair, etc that might not be obvious (or current) in their port.
Someone who can communicate well.
Availability, scheduling, etc.
Nudes or no?
Escort or no?
Anything else that's either a plus or minus that someone hiring you should know up front

But having said that, short and simple is better than having to read your life story.
Jan 20 10 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sleepy Weasel
Posts: 4,619
Castle Rock, Colorado, US


Since I had a few minutes between work things, I decided to take a crack at what you've written. This is my suggestion of how you could trim it up:

I have no tattoos and only ear piercings. I keep my hair short, like to experiment with my hair color when I can, and am very open-minded about most shoots. Due to my current transportation situation, I am only available to shoot with those photographers who are willing to come to me.

I feel my look makes me very versatile and I enjoy working with lots of color. My look can range from feminine to androgynous, from classic to messy. I also enjoy bodyscapes, gore, pinup, bodypainting, and alternative styles. While I am open to nudes, I am not open to explicit or sexually-focused images.

I deal with compensation on a case-by-case basis. If my look fits your project, please ask me about my negotiable rates. If I like your shoot idea and feel it will benefit my portfolio, then we can discuss a trade shoot.

This was just a quick once-over.

(EDIT: removed section about 'professionalism'. It shouldn't need to be said. Do your homework on the photographer and you don't need to say this up front. I also merged the 'What I am and am not looking for' sections.)

Jan 20 10 10:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 21,517
Portland, Oregon, US


What I look for in a model's profile:

>>>  How far away is she from me?
>>>  What kind of images does she pose for (I work in nudes, so I want nude models).
>>>  Her portfolio should show off her range & skill set.

I prefer profiles that are short & to the point -- I don't want to read a novel of irrelevant information.

I like seeing enthusiasm.  I get turned off by profiles that are full of negative things, like "I don't do..." lists.  Leave the restrictions for a subsequent conversation.  (But, being contrary, I do appreciate a short statement like "I don't do nudes").

Yes, you should spell check (and grammar check) your profile.
Jan 20 10 11:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Steven Starr
Posts: 1,432
Los Angeles, California, US


The profile section is nowhere near as important to me as "current" images.  I'm looking for a "look" not whether you have three cats and love ballet.  Not saying that is in your port...just an example.  I know some models put "I am always on time" or the "I DONT DO XYZ" and that all works as long as it is short and sweet.  Otherwise...if it drags out I honestly won't read it.
Jan 20 10 11:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Steven Starr
Posts: 1,432
Los Angeles, California, US


Sleepy Weasel wrote:
Since I had a few minutes between work things, I decided to take a crack at what you've written. This is my suggestion of how you could trim it up:


This was just a quick once-over.

I like this version.  I think the following should be common sense though...

"I expect the relationship between me and the photographer to remain strictly professional and respected as a peer and collaborator. I am not interested in personal relationships from the shoots."

Sadly..I'm sure it's not.

Jan 20 10 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fiddlers Green Photo
Posts: 1,350
Edmonds, Washington, US


I always look for a negative attitude, a list of i don't do and I must have etc,
I am not saying that you shouldn't put it in there. I like it that models do so I can't steer clear of them.
Jan 20 10 11:09 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looknsee Photography
Posts: 21,517
Portland, Oregon, US


Steven Starr wrote:
I like this version.  I think the following should be common sense though...

"I expect the relationship between me and the photographer to remain strictly professional and respected as a peer and collaborator. I am not interested in personal relationships from the shoots."

Sadly..I'm sure it's not.

I don't like that.  It sounds like the model is assuming that every photographer that contacts her is an unprofessional dirty old man.

Jan 20 10 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ward
Posts: 6,134
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I look at their photos 1st. Profile jibberish is really immaterial to me.
Jan 20 10 11:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
HOTTIE SHOTS
Posts: 5,957
Memphis, Tennessee, US


JEBKA Photography wrote:
My life is fact based.
I don't care that you aspire to be in playboy.
I don't care that you just changed your hair color and aren't happy with it.
I don't care that you had a bad experience and that is why you insist on bringing Sluggo.

Just the facts please.

Stats
Availability limitations
Other restrictions.  example:  I insist on bringing Sluggo.  I do not shoot nude work, etc.

No excuses.  No explainations.  Just facts

+1  I don't want to read all about "you". I want to know if you will shoot what I want from you with no fuss, no drama and a good attitude.

Jan 20 10 11:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jef von Berg
Posts: 54
Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands


What I miss in the portfolio from models living in the US are the posing-categories. Here in Europe it's essential information and very common.
Jan 20 10 11:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Steve Reganato
Posts: 1,680
New York, New York, US


JEBKA Photography wrote:
My life is fact based.
I don't care that you aspire to be in playboy.
I don't care that you just changed your hair color and aren't happy with it.
I don't care that you had a bad experience and that is why you insist on bringing Sluggo.

Just the facts please.

Stats
Availability limitations
Other restrictions.  example:  I insist on bringing Sluggo.  I do not shoot nude work, etc.

No excuses.  No explainations.  Just facts

+1
The first place I go is the port, if I like what I see there, then I read the profile and the above here kicks in.

Jan 20 10 11:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 9,534
Seattle, Washington, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

You are talking about the profile, not port.

Without looking at what you have now of your profile. Here is what I would say:

-be humble, modest.
-act professional and enthusiastic.
-be open to most possibilities within reason.
-think outside your own self.
-Don't be a hypocrite!

That's it. Now I'm going to look at your profile...

Jan 20 10 11:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SLE Photography
Posts: 68,937
Orlando, Florida, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

I wrote an article with what I want to see, combined with a lot of what I've seen people say in threads like this:
The Newbie Model's Complete Guide to Your Online Profile

Jan 20 10 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MLRPhoto
Posts: 5,753
Olivet, Michigan, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

I look for age, location, what styles they are interested in / willing to do, and for attitude.  Professional and serious is fine, professional and fun is great.  Unprofessional, which usually shows up in really bad grammar / spelling or long lists of demands, is a big red flag.  Escorts, all alone, is a big red flag.

Jan 20 10 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
Model
The Original Sin
Posts: 13,894
Louisville, Kentucky, US


I try to keep my profile short, to the point, honest and clear.  I also try to keep my travel dates and locations updated (which reminds me I have to do that today) and if anything changes, I make sure to include that information.
Jan 20 10 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
Model
B R E N N A N
Posts: 4,131
Charlotte, North Carolina, US


Leo Howard wrote:
I want to know only certain things from your profile:

Name, Age, Height, Weight, Hair Color, Eye Color, And maybe a description of your current look.

I don't want to know about your life and that you are working on getting your GED, or Degree in advance tom foolery and bio kinetic sulfur enriched engineering. If you feel you must include all this stuff, include it after the most important information ( which should be at the top )

in your portfolio, I would like to see a good headshot, might be nice to see one without any makeup or photoshop, but a headshot would be good, a 3/4 shot and a full length shot.

im not a photographer but agreed!

Jan 20 10 11:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,350
Olney, Maryland, US


I am not open to anyone out of my age range (photographer or not) coming on to me or making me uncomfortable.

!

Jan 20 10 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 9,534
Seattle, Washington, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

Ok, now that i have read your profile. It looks good, perhaps shorten it a little bit?

Jan 20 10 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
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Sleepy Weasel
Posts: 4,619
Castle Rock, Colorado, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:

I don't like that.  It sounds like the model is assuming that every photographer that contacts her is an unprofessional dirty old man.

I just reworded what was there, but I agree--it doesn't need to be there at all.

Jan 20 10 11:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
foxfire images
Posts: 977
Northfield, Vermont, US


4 or 5 lines would have been more than enough
Jan 20 10 11:44 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Rhiannon Davis
Posts: 945
Denton, Texas, US


WAAAAYYY too long. It's just not necessary to explain something in paragraph form when it would easily be explained one or two bullet points.
Jan 20 10 11:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DennisRoliffPhotography
Posts: 1,928
Akron, Ohio, US


Freddie Faith Keller wrote:
I feel like rewriting my profile, it's had the same thing up for a while, so photographers, what do you look for when you read a model's profile, what are some important things to include?

What must you do in order to get potential creatives to read your profile? You must first gain enough interest to have them click on your profile link. What peaks my interest, hands down, is an outstanding avatar image. For me it is usually a headshot, which makes the most of the small image size.

I don't give too much weight to profile content. What matters most to me, with my work, is how a person photographs. That being said, there is a certain parallel between an online profile and a models demeanor at a casting. The online profile can give some indication of personality.
The land based casting is a more definitive test of whether there may be some working chemistry between photographer and talent.

I suppose this is a long way of saying, give some thought to treating your online profile as you would a land based casting. Briefly and clearly, show personality and enthusiasm.

Best,

Dennis

Dennis Roliff Photography

Jan 20 10 11:56 am  Link  Quote 
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