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Accidental Plateau

Posts: 7715

Brooklyn, New York, US

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Guys I'm doing this for ME not photographers or others.. just saying smile

That is a healthy attitude and all that.

However, just think, how much will it cost ? Is there anything else you would rather do with the money ? Travel ? Education ? Training ? Hobbies ?

Apr 24 11 02:16 am Link

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Accidental Plateau

Posts: 7715

Brooklyn, New York, US

Marianne Michaela wrote:
They usually look great in clothing, but once I see them in a bikini or just topless I find them a bit offputting, because it's so obvious they are fake.

If you want to have a different look, why could'nt you use the falsies or a padded bra occasionaly ?

Realize also, I know you said you would only do it for you, but, then again, you said you would then shoot nude.

Be aware, the world has no need whatsoever for photographs of fake boobs. None. Period.

Apr 24 11 02:21 am Link

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255 West

Posts: 6468

New York, New York, US

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Guys I'm doing this for ME not photographers or others.. just saying smile

School Boy Heart wrote:
That is a healthy attitude and all that.
[...]

"Just saying" ... riiiiiiiight. wink I never heard about "denial" being such a healthy process.

Apr 24 11 04:37 am Link

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Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

255 West wrote:

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Guys I'm doing this for ME not photographers or others.. just saying smile

"Just saying" ... riiiiiiiight. wink I never heard about "denial" being such a healthy process.

Bullsh*t frankly,
Not everyone has their boobs done for others approval/appreciation whatever..
I had mine done because I wanted them that way, I got em out before and I get em out now, makes no difference apart from the fact that 'I' am happy with the way they hang/feel/look finally.

Given the amount of nay sayers that tend to pop their oar in regarding the aesthetics of fake boobs if it were to be about others opionions on them, then less women would get them done surely?

Apr 24 11 05:08 am Link

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Fergy

Posts: 22436

Fenton, Michigan, US

School Boy Heart wrote:

That is a healthy attitude and all that.

However, just think, how much will it cost ? Is there anything else you would rather do with the money ? Travel ? Education ? Training ? Hobbies ?

Well, given that most women SAVE for their boobs for the purpose of geitting boobs I don't think they want to put any money into anything else besides their boobs.

I have traveled, have hobbies and an education....and I still saved to get boobs.  *shrugs*

It amazes me the amount of people that complain about breast enlargements on here.  Although they've probably have never felt one, or seen one naked-in person.  lol

Apr 24 11 08:21 am Link

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Fergy

Posts: 22436

Fenton, Michigan, US

School Boy Heart wrote:

If you want to have a different look, why could'nt you use the falsies or a padded bra occasionaly ?

Realize also, I know you said you would only do it for you, but, then again, you said you would then shoot nude.

Be aware, the world has no need whatsoever for photographs of fake boobs. None. Period.

You're a guy.  There is no way us to make you understand.  Don't try to tell anyone that boobs don't turn guys on.  Since that is one of the first things they check out on a woman.

The world has no need for many things, but you see MANY MANY people look at photos of boobs, fake or other wise DAILY.  There is really no argument.  There will continue to be models that shoot nude, there will continue to be photographs of boobs whether you think they are fake or not.  And I bet you can't always tell the difference.

Apr 24 11 08:24 am Link

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Jay Edwards

Posts: 18616

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Fergy wrote:
It amazes me the amount of people that complain about breast enlargements on here.  Although they've probably have never felt one, or seen one naked-in person.  lol

I've always thought that the ardent ''complainers'' have probably felt very few boobs, period.  Real or fake.  Just saying.  wink

Apr 24 11 08:32 am Link

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Fergy

Posts: 22436

Fenton, Michigan, US

Jay  Edwards wrote:

I've always thought that the ardent ''complainers'' have probably felt very few boobs, period.  Real or fake.  Just saying.  wink

tongue

Apr 24 11 08:34 am Link

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sjx

Posts: 969

Boston, Massachusetts, US

They're not so bad, as long as they don't look really fake

(sorry I didn't read all the other responses) smile

Apr 24 11 11:36 am Link

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Giuseppe Luzio

Posts: 5834

New York, New York, US

fake boobs is fake boobs

Apr 24 11 11:37 am Link

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Mychal Duran

Posts: 298

Ashland, Oregon, US

One size does not fit all.

Some guys don't like fake boobs.
Some guys love them.
Some guys can't really tell the difference.

Only you can decide what's right for you.

Apr 24 11 12:05 pm Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

Posts: 23492

Los Angeles, California, US

theda wrote:
I agree with most of what you say, but silicone gel was approved for cosmetic procedures about 5 years ago. Even before that, it wasn't too hard to qualify as a "reconstructive" case. However, I just looked it up and the OP would still be too young to get silicone so it's not applicable to her unless she waits a few years.

How dare you go behind me and do some research!!

I'll concede you that point; the last time I did the research wasn't recently (could've been 3 months ago, could've been 39 months ago; MM time kinda bleeds together) and the data (though considered recent when I looked it up) could have easily been from 2 year old studies due to the time required to compile data, have it vetted and then published.

255 West wrote:
Your words may offer reassurance and comfort to those women who have done it and may be having post-surgery doubts, but you ought not be encouraging someone contemplating a procedure she hasn't yet had with these absurd comparisons to coloring or cutting hair.

I didn't say they were equal, they have a similarity in that people evaluate their physical appearance and decide to change it to something they prefer.  If it's firming up one's hindparts, months of squats might do the trick.  If it's coloring one's hair, a trip to the local drugstore will do the trick.  If it's surgically augmented breasts, thousands of dollars, a good doctor and some time under the knife will do the trick.

Only a simpleton would see any of those as the same; don't construe my words to say something I did not say.  The comparison is valid insofaras it was made.  Outside of that, you're hearing whatever you want to hear.

Apr 24 11 01:43 pm Link

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MisNatalie Ann

Posts: 208

Okoboji, Iowa, US

Wow everything has to be an argument huh? Haha RELAX guys--- AGAIN:

-Im doing it for ME because *I* like the look of fake boobs a F*CK ton more than my own.. I PERSONALLY do not like small-- and mine are SMALL to me.. 

- Im could care less if I get more or less jobs modeling because of it.

- I DOUBT my boobs are getting any bigger- no one in my family has big boobs..

- NO if Im getting or want or decide on fake boobs I dont want to spend money on something else I want to spend it on fake boobs.. haha duh.

anyways- carry on.. and thank you to those who are taking the time to msg me and actually talk to me about it. smile < 3

Apr 24 11 02:27 pm Link

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255 West

Posts: 6468

New York, New York, US

If it weren't for societal influences about looks and behavior, far fewer people would drink or drug, no one would smoke, no one would diet to just to look better, no one would get a nose job, wear padded bras, wear stilettos, be concerned with fashion, get suntans, wear sunglasses "to look cool", drive cars that are "chick magnets". And NO woman would get silicone implant surgery.
Those are all done because it makes some people feel better, but the "feeling better" is solidly rooted in feelings of inadequacy that are placed on us by society's perceptions (or real or imagined) of us. Those perceptions become internalized, and at some point, people do all these irrational things automatically, believing them to be natural and healthy and simply "a matter of personal choice", and uninfluenced by the perceptions of others.

These internalized feelings are rooted and maintained by ongoing pressure to conform and leads us to spend beyond our limits, to abuse ourselves and others, and to maintain and spread those unhealthy expectations onto others unconsciously.

We do many many things for others, and we believe they are for ourselves, and we do it all the time without our awareness.

Some beliefs are so entrenched into the society, that we think they are natural and normal and good. Some are beneficial, many are not. Some are highly risky, unhealthy, and potentially dangerous ... like undergoing a major medical procedure to alleviate (conscious or unconscious) feelings of inadequacy.

A few months ago, there was a woman who died during a breast augmentation procedure, and I was astounded how many people energetically defended the cosmetic surgery by saying things like "you can die just crossing the street, so should we avoid street-crossing?"

It's insane thinking.

An irrational thinking process leads to wacky decisions and perceptions. So the choice to have or not to have breast implant surgery is, of course, impaired. But further back in the process is the train of thought that leads to deciding that larger breasts will lead to happiness" is irrationally reached too.

To those girls who have had the surgery, I say "You look MARVELOUS! It was the best move you ever made!"

To those contemplating getting the surgery, think carefully how you imagine your life will be different, if at all, with bigger breasts. Ask: "what are my expectations", and, "are they reasonable?"
Look carefully for genuine and helpful information (as opposed to advertising).

To the people who think that silicone breast implant surgery is fundamentally the same as a haircut ... um, ok, sure, whatever.
(I'm fully expecting to be chastised with wacky rationalizations and ad-hominem insults.)

Apr 24 11 05:18 pm Link

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Diana Duong

Posts: 1005

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

255 West wrote:
If it weren't for societal influences about looks and behavior, far fewer people would drink or drug, no one would smoke, no one would diet to just to look better, no one would get a nose job, wear padded bras, wear stilettos, be concerned with fashion, get suntans, wear sunglasses "to look cool", drive cars that are "chick magnets". And NO woman would get silicone implant surgery.
Those are all done because it makes some people feel better, but the "feeling better" is solidly rooted in feelings of inadequacy that are placed on us by society's perceptions (or real or imagined) of us. Those perceptions become internalized, and at some point, people do all these irrational things automatically, believing them to be natural and healthy and simply "a matter of personal choice", and uninfluenced by the perceptions of others.

These internalized feelings are rooted and maintained by ongoing pressure to conform and leads us to spend beyond our limits, to abuse ourselves and others, and to maintain and spread those unhealthy expectations onto others unconsciously.

We do many many things for others, and we believe they are for ourselves, and we do it all the time without our awareness.

Some beliefs are so entrenched into the society, that we think they are natural and normal and good. Some are beneficial, many are not. Some are highly risky, unhealthy, and potentially dangerous ... like undergoing a major medical procedure to alleviate (conscious or unconscious) feelings of inadequacy.

A few months ago, there was a woman who died during a breast augmentation procedure, and I was astounded how many people energetically defended the cosmetic surgery by saying things like "you can die just crossing the street, so should we avoid street-crossing?"

It's insane thinking.

An irrational thinking process leads to wacky decisions and perceptions. So the choice to have or not to have breast implant surgery is, of course, impaired. But further back in the process is the train of thought that leads to deciding that larger breasts will lead to happiness" is irrationally reached too.

To those girls who have had the surgery, I say "You look MARVELOUS! It was the best move you ever made!"

To those contemplating getting the surgery, think carefully how you imagine your life will be different, if at all, with bigger breasts. Ask: "what are my expectations", and, "are they reasonable?"
Look carefully for genuine and helpful information (as opposed to advertising).

To the people who think that silicone breast implant surgery is fundamentally the same as a haircut ... um, ok, sure, whatever.
(I'm fully expecting to be chastised with wacky rationalizations and ad-hominem insults.)

+100

Apr 24 11 05:28 pm Link

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Jay Edwards

Posts: 18616

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

255 West wrote:
If it weren't for societal influences about looks and behavior, far fewer people would drink or drug, no one would smoke, no one would diet to just to look better, no one would get a nose job, wear padded bras, wear stilettos, be concerned with fashion, get suntans, wear sunglasses "to look cool", drive cars that are "chick magnets". And NO woman would get silicone implant surgery.
Those are all done because it makes some people feel better, but the "feeling better" is solidly rooted in feelings of inadequacy that are placed on us by society's perceptions (or real or imagined) of us. Those perceptions become internalized, and at some point, people do all these irrational things automatically, believing them to be natural and healthy and simply "a matter of personal choice", and uninfluenced by the perceptions of others.

These internalized feelings are rooted and maintained by ongoing pressure to conform and leads us to spend beyond our limits, to abuse ourselves and others, and to maintain and spread those unhealthy expectations onto others unconsciously.

We do many many things for others, and we believe they are for ourselves, and we do it all the time without our awareness.

Some beliefs are so entrenched into the society, that we think they are natural and normal and good. Some are beneficial, many are not. Some are highly risky, unhealthy, and potentially dangerous ... like undergoing a major medical procedure to alleviate (conscious or unconscious) feelings of inadequacy.

A few months ago, there was a woman who died during a breast augmentation procedure, and I was astounded how many people energetically defended the cosmetic surgery by saying things like "you can die just crossing the street, so should we avoid street-crossing?"

It's insane thinking.

An irrational thinking process leads to wacky decisions and perceptions. So the choice to have or not to have breast implant surgery is, of course, impaired. But further back in the process is the train of thought that leads to deciding that larger breasts will lead to happiness" is irrationally reached too.

To those girls who have had the surgery, I say "You look MARVELOUS! It was the best move you ever made!"

To those contemplating getting the surgery, think carefully how you imagine your life will be different, if at all, with bigger breasts. Ask: "what are my expectations", and, "are they reasonable?"
Look carefully for genuine and helpful information (as opposed to advertising).

To the people who think that silicone breast implant surgery is fundamentally the same as a haircut ... um, ok, sure, whatever.
(I'm fully expecting to be chastised with wacky rationalizations and ad-hominem insults.)

You may want to look into your own ''inadequacies'' before trying to analyze others.  Just a thought.

Apr 24 11 07:53 pm Link

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P I X I E

Posts: 35440

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

If you're a small 34B, what does that make me, at 32A? Heh.

Look, plastic surgery isn't without risks. Be careful.

Apr 24 11 08:02 pm Link

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Aivy Nguyen

Posts: 147

Dallas, Texas, US

I'm only a 32A and I don't think I would ever get fake boobs. Anywaayyy...

Cons? My mom and older sister both got fake boobs and it was NOT fun taking care of them during their recovery. They could barely move, had to sleep while sitting, couldn't eat certain things, had to take pain meds but were still in pain anyway, couldn't really shower by themselves, couldn't lift their arms or carry anything, could barely walk, yada yada. You get the idea. There's also the cost of course.

Pros? I guess you would have nicer boobs...depending on how good your surgeon is. My mom and sister got theirs done by a Japanese surgeon and they look pretty natural to me (not that I'm a boobs expert or anything). I don't know if it's the difference between western and eastern tastes or anything, but I tend to notice that American surgeons give you more of that bouncy balloon-like look whereas Asian surgeons give you more of a soft natural look. Of course, the boobs are gonna feel fake regardless unless you get the silicon ones (from what I've been told). You might also find it easier to wear certain clothes when you have fuller breasts.

Apr 24 11 09:25 pm Link

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Jay Farrell

Posts: 13408

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Stefano Brunesci wrote:
You don't need them. Period.




Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

+1. Not a fan of fake cans either.

Apr 24 11 09:35 pm Link

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misszara

Posts: 6715

Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Wow everything has to be an argument huh? Haha RELAX guys--- AGAIN:

-Im doing it for ME because *I* like the look of fake boobs a F*CK ton more than my own.. I PERSONALLY do not like small-- and mine are SMALL to me.. 

- Im could care less if I get more or less jobs modeling because of it.

- I DOUBT my boobs are getting any bigger- no one in my family has big boobs..

- NO if Im getting or want or decide on fake boobs I dont want to spend money on something else I want to spend it on fake boobs.. haha duh.

anyways- carry on.. and thank you to those who are taking the time to msg me and actually talk to me about it. smile < 3

You started a thread on fake boobs and asked for opinions... that's exactly what you've got.

Ultimately it's your decision, but if you've already set your mind on getting them, don't start a thread asking for peoples opinions.

Apr 24 11 11:01 pm Link

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255 West

Posts: 6468

New York, New York, US

SOURCE
Article:

Woman dies during breast augmentation
[...] http://www.healthrelatedinfos.com/ca...ora-died-2776/

Carolin Berger better known as Caro Berger who is a famous porn star in Germany died after her sixth breast enlargement procedure which proved to be a little bit too much for her body to handle.

At 23 years old she wanted to increase the size of her breasts from a 34F to a 34G.

Although there were many people in her life that told her the procedure was not necessary, she insisted on having it done anyway. Following the surgery Berger apparently suffered several cardiac arrests which were simply too much for her heart to handle.

Although doctors did everything they could to revive her, the sixth operation was simply too much.

Doctors said that the brain damage that the porn star suffered was too great and that her blood pressure started to drop dangerously low until all of her bodily functions eventually just quit and she was gone.

Apr 24 11 11:50 pm Link

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Diana Duong

Posts: 1005

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

misszara wrote:

You started a thread on fake boobs and asked for opinions... that's exactly what you've got.

Ultimately it's your decision, but if you've already set your mind on getting them, don't start a thread asking for peoples opinions.

+1

Apr 24 11 11:54 pm Link

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Dario Western

Posts: 703

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Wow everything has to be an argument huh? Haha RELAX guys--- AGAIN:

-Im doing it for ME because *I* like the look of fake boobs a F*CK ton more than my own.. I PERSONALLY do not like small-- and mine are SMALL to me.. 

- Im could care less if I get more or less jobs modeling because of it.

- I DOUBT my boobs are getting any bigger- no one in my family has big boobs..

- NO if Im getting or want or decide on fake boobs I dont want to spend money on something else I want to spend it on fake boobs.. haha duh.

anyways- carry on.. and thank you to those who are taking the time to msg me and actually talk to me about it. smile < 3

You are a really superficial person.  Live with what you've got, and if that isn't enough then you shouldn't be on this planet. 

Fuck "societal attitudes" that make women feel inadequate about their natural bodies.  Women lived without it for centuries and can sure do without it today. 

Madison Avenue should be fucking well bombed, preferably on September 11th this year.

Apr 25 11 01:27 am Link

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Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Fergy wrote:
You're a guy.  There is no way us to make you understand.  Don't try to tell anyone that boobs don't turn guys on.  Since that is one of the first things they check out on a woman.

The world has no need for many things, but you see MANY MANY people look at photos of boobs, fake or other wise DAILY.  There is really no argument.  There will continue to be models that shoot nude, there will continue to be photographs of boobs whether you think they are fake or not.  And I bet you can't always tell the difference.

This post really gets to the heart of the reason why women get implants...although many will never admit it.

Apr 25 11 01:30 am Link

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255 West

Posts: 6468

New York, New York, US

Fergy wrote:
You're a guy.  There is no way us to make you understand.  Don't try to tell anyone that boobs don't turn guys on.  Since that is one of the first things they check out on a woman.

The world has no need for many things, but you see MANY MANY people look at photos of boobs, fake or other wise DAILY.  There is really no argument.  There will continue to be models that shoot nude, there will continue to be photographs of boobs whether you think they are fake or not.  And I bet you can't always tell the difference.

Image K wrote:
This post really gets to the heart of the reason why women get implants...although many will never admit it.

+1000DD

I think that Fergy just made the case for "large-breast-envy stems from insecurity from being under-appreciated by men".
This "I'm just doing it for me" is a failure to recognize and address deep feelings of hurt which will likely persist even after getting bigger breasts.

I have no easy answers, I'm just noticing what's going on, and feeling sad about it.

Apr 25 11 01:51 am Link

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Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

255 West wrote:
If it weren't for societal influences about looks and behavior, far fewer people would drink or drug, no one would smoke, no one would diet to just to look better, no one would get a nose job, wear padded bras, wear stilettos, be concerned with fashion, get suntans, wear sunglasses "to look cool", drive cars that are "chick magnets". And NO woman would get silicone implant surgery.
Those are all done because it makes some people feel better, but the "feeling better" is solidly rooted in feelings of inadequacy that are placed on us by society's perceptions (or real or imagined) of us. Those perceptions become internalized, and at some point, people do all these irrational things automatically, believing them to be natural and healthy and simply "a matter of personal choice", and uninfluenced by the perceptions of others.

These internalized feelings are rooted and maintained by ongoing pressure to conform and leads us to spend beyond our limits, to abuse ourselves and others, and to maintain and spread those unhealthy expectations onto others unconsciously.

We do many many things for others, and we believe they are for ourselves, and we do it all the time without our awareness.

Some beliefs are so entrenched into the society, that we think they are natural and normal and good. Some are beneficial, many are not. Some are highly risky, unhealthy, and potentially dangerous ... like undergoing a major medical procedure to alleviate (conscious or unconscious) feelings of inadequacy.

A few months ago, there was a woman who died during a breast augmentation procedure, and I was astounded how many people energetically defended the cosmetic surgery by saying things like "you can die just crossing the street, so should we avoid street-crossing?"

It's insane thinking.

An irrational thinking process leads to wacky decisions and perceptions. So the choice to have or not to have breast implant surgery is, of course, impaired. But further back in the process is the train of thought that leads to deciding that larger breasts will lead to happiness" is irrationally reached too.

To those girls who have had the surgery, I say "You look MARVELOUS! It was the best move you ever made!"

To those contemplating getting the surgery, think carefully how you imagine your life will be different, if at all, with bigger breasts. Ask: "what are my expectations", and, "are they reasonable?"
Look carefully for genuine and helpful information (as opposed to advertising).

To the people who think that silicone breast implant surgery is fundamentally the same as a haircut ... um, ok, sure, whatever.
(I'm fully expecting to be chastised with wacky rationalizations and ad-hominem insults.)

Then explain to me why I chose not to have the treatment that could have given me a full head of hair, and why I choose to happily stay bald and got nice new boobs instead?
If I were to be THAT concerned about others opinions on me, then surely that would have been the first thing I 'fixed' given it was the bane of my life from the age of 8-32 with stares, nasty comments, abuse, bullying and so on?

Apr 25 11 02:04 am Link

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Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sirensong wrote:

Then explain to me why I chose not to have the treatment that could have given me a full head of hair, and why I choose to happily stay bald and got nice new boobs instead?
If I were to be THAT concerned about others opinions on me, then surely that would have been the first thing I 'fixed' given it was the bane of my life from the age of 8-32 with stares, nasty comments, abuse, bullying and so on?

You were "bullied" because of...?

Apr 25 11 02:19 am Link

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Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Image K wrote:
You were "bullied" because of...?

'bullied' enough to put me in hospital more than once hmm
I am talking daily physical and metal stuff not just the catcalling/abuse in the street

Being a wee skinny bald kid does tend to make you a little bit of a target..

Apr 25 11 02:48 am Link

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Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Sirensong wrote:

'bullied' enough to put me in hospital more than once hmm
I am talking daily physical and metal stuff not just the catcalling/abuse in the street

Being a wee skinny bald kid does tend to make you a little bit of a target..

I'm not getting the connection to the breast implant issue...

Apr 25 11 03:07 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

Image K wrote:

I'm not getting the connection to the breast implant issue...

that she didn't take breast implants to please other people or because she is insecure about what othe rpeople think... because if that was the case, she would have had something done to have hair again, instead of the boobjob.

I think smile

Apr 25 11 03:11 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

misszara wrote:

You started a thread on fake boobs and asked for opinions... that's exactly what you've got.

Ultimately it's your decision, but if you've already set your mind on getting them, don't start a thread asking for peoples opinions.

exactly...

Apr 25 11 03:12 am Link

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Chris Wolf Photography

Posts: 906

Toledo, Ohio, US

Natalie Ann143 wrote:
Wow everything has to be an argument huh? Haha RELAX guys--- AGAIN:

-Im doing it for ME because *I* like the look of fake boobs a F*CK ton more than my own.. I PERSONALLY do not like small-- and mine are SMALL to me..

And there's the only way to get them, because YOU like them; not because someone else wants you to, or to get more jobs, or for a hundred other reasons. Do it to feel better about yourself.

And for the record, I think your boobs are fine as is. Then again, it's your body, not mine.

Apr 25 11 03:49 am Link

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Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Aivy Nguyen wrote:
I'm only a 32A and I don't think I would ever get fake boobs. Anywaayyy...

When I was 18, there were a lot of things that I thought I would never do...

lol

Apr 25 11 03:52 am Link

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Sirensong

Posts: 2173

Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

Marianne Michaela wrote:

that she didn't take breast implants to please other people or because she is insecure about what other people think... because if that was the case, she would have had something done to have hair again, instead of the boobjob.

I think smile

Pretty much big_smile

Apr 25 11 04:22 am Link

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theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Sirensong wrote:
Then explain to me why I chose not to have the treatment that could have given me a full head of hair, and why I choose to happily stay bald and got nice new boobs instead?
If I were to be THAT concerned about others opinions on me, then surely that would have been the first thing I 'fixed' given it was the bane of my life from the age of 8-32 with stares, nasty comments, abuse, bullying and so on?

It's a wee bit more complicated than that. Sometimes we dig our heels in about certain things and embrace standing out.  Other times, we do internalize society's view of attractiveness.  Sometimes, we do both simultaneously.  But no one is immune to social influence.

Apr 25 11 04:48 am Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

Posts: 23492

Los Angeles, California, US

How many women get breast augmentation surgeries each year? How many women die from breast augmentation surgeries each year? Actually: how many women died from breast enhancement surgery between 2000 & 2010 of the millions who opted for the procedure?

How many people actually know someone personally who has surgically enhanced breasts? Of those, how many have had complications? How many wish they'd never done it? Not friends of friends of neighbors of coworkers who saw someone on tv. You know them personally and have had direct discussion with them about the factthat they're having issues with their implants and wish they'd never done it?

By contrast, of those who know women who've elected to have the surgery done, how many of those women are so fucking delighted with themselves that they don't have time to hear you whine about how one in a million women die from the procedure in a decade.

Trying to scare people away from an elective surgery with isolated incidents is just as silly as it sounds. Be fair with the facts.

Apr 25 11 05:03 am Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

Kincaid Blackwood wrote:
How many women get breast augmentation surgeries each year? How many women die from breast augmentation surgeries each year? Actually: how many women died from breast enhancement surgery between 2000 & 2010 of the millions who opted for the procedure?

How many people actually know someone personally who has surgically enhanced breasts? Of those, how many have had complications? How many wish they'd never done it? Not friends of friends of neighbors of coworkers who saw someone on tv. You know them personally and have had direct discussion with them about the factthat they're having issues with their implants and wish they'd never done it?

By contrast, of those who know women who've elected to have the surgery done, how many of those women are so fucking delighted with themselves that they don't have time to hear you whine about how one in a million women die from the procedure in a decade.

Trying to scare people away from an elective surgery with isolated incidents is just as silly as it sounds. Be fair with the facts.

telling the risks is necessary, and the doctors will tell her all of this anyway. every surgery has risks, it's as simple as that.

I am wondering: how many woman have their implants taken out again after an x period of time, for vairous reasons? I read an article about it once, but I can't remember...

Apr 25 11 05:07 am Link

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Sirensong

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Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom

theda wrote:

It's a wee bit more complicated than that. Sometimes we dig our heels in about certain things and embrace standing out.  Other times, we do internalize society's view of attractiveness.  Sometimes, we do both simultaneously.  But no one is immune to social influence.

Oh christ no, I am not saying anyone is immune to it completely, but you can get to a stage where it matters a lot less to 'you' than it does to others.

Apr 25 11 05:16 am Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

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Los Angeles, California, US

Marianne Michaela wrote:
telling the risks is necessary, and the doctors will tell her all of this anyway.

KNOWING the risk is necessary and doctors are duty-bound to inform those consider the procedure and better equipped with the proper data to present it properly. TELLING the risks is a superfluous endeavor when you don't out it into proper perspective. Saying that a woman recently died from the procedure to scare someone considering it is disingenuous when you don't also out it into perspective with "…but that is a statistical anomaly and blahblahblah." We have to be fair.

I the the OP has a good attitude about it anyway. I don't think she'll go in without know what risks are involved. I personally think it would be I'll-advised for her to do it at yer age simply because she might change her mind a few years down the line, but aside from that, it sounds like she'll make the best decision for HER and not one to appease anyone else (myself or others on either side of the discussion)…

Apr 25 11 05:25 am Link

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Maja Stina

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Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Don't like fake boobs. Ever.

The thing I love about boobs is that they are all different...much like vaginas without being gross. Vaginas gross me out. LOL That's why I don't do open leg! xD

Apr 25 11 05:32 am Link