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Louisa-
Posts: 19
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia


Hey guys,

I'm a new llama trying to build my portfolio to include fashion, lingerie and swimwear.

I've been asked by several photographers about doing tasteful lingerie shoots (no nudes, no spread legs etc) in an upscale hotel room... I understand that this is probably the best setting for lingerie shoots.

However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself. The photographers have offered that I bring anyone along I like.

However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from llamas who have done similar?
Aug 22 12 06:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Greg Kolack
Posts: 17,684
Downers Grove, Illinois, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm a new model trying to build my portfolio to include fashion, lingerie and swimwear.

I've been asked by several photographers about doing tasteful lingerie shoots (no nudes, no spread legs etc) in an upscale hotel room... I understand that this is probably the best setting for lingerie shoots.

However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself. The photographers have offered that I bring anyone along I like.

However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from models who have done similar?

An upscale hotel is probably going to be 10 times safer than other locations - security personnel and cameras everywhere. Hotels are very, very common locations to shoot.

Aug 22 12 06:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DVP Photography
Posts: 2,851
Broomfield, Colorado, US


Check references.
Aug 22 12 06:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Top Gun Digital
Posts: 1,211
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm a new model trying to build my portfolio to include fashion, lingerie and swimwear.

I've been asked by several photographers about doing tasteful lingerie shoots (no nudes, no spread legs etc) in an upscale hotel room... I understand that this is probably the best setting for lingerie shoots.

However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself. The photographers have offered that I bring anyone along I like.

However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from models who have done similar?

You can start by checking the references of the photographers.  Speak to other models that have worked with them in hotel rooms.  If you decide to go alone, be sure that someone else knows who you are shooting with and where the shoot is taking place.

In all honesty, in order to get good images, the model needs to be comfortable in her surroundings.  If you are nervous because you're alone it is going to be reflected in the pictures.  If the photographers have offered to allow you to bring a friend it might be best for you to do so until you are comfortable doing these types of shoots alone.

Aug 22 12 06:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Lieza Nova
Posts: 2,900
Seattle, Washington, US


This was pretty routine for me and I shot in hotel rooms more times than I can probably remember.

The only time that I had a problem was when the photographer was "new" and didn't have any references...
Aug 22 12 06:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GER Photography
Posts: 7,553
Imperial, California, US


As said above, always check references!! Contact models the photographer has worked with, google the guy... Some people hide behind kitchy names like snigglfritz photography, who the hell is that?? Some red flags when dealing with anyone, will they not give you a phone#, an address... Are they hard to get ahold of even when you have contact info??
Aug 22 12 06:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cole Morrison
Posts: 3,958
Portland, Oregon, US


check references and let people know where you will be and when you plan to return
Aug 22 12 06:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FootNote Fotography
Posts: 18,809
Olympia, Washington, US


I am a firm believer in gut feelings.

Also check references.
Aug 22 12 06:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photographer
-JAY-
Posts: 6,299
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Check references and do your homework.

Louisa-Marie wrote:
However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from models who have done similar?

Go. When you don't get murdered, it'll be easier next time.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110328/19/4d9149b5822ee_m.jpg

Aug 22 12 07:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Louisa-
Posts: 19
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia


Thanks for the replies guys. I have the photographers phone number, real name etc etc and we may also shoot swimwear at the hotel pool which is obviously a very public domain so I understand there is nothing to worry about. However it's better to be safe.
Aug 22 12 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lightfire Creative
Posts: 179
Wollongong, New South Wales, Australia


Hotels, I think are safe.  The photographer would need to check in with ID.  All the details are there should anything happen, and as mentioned, corridors have cameras, even in the lifts where I've stayed.

I also think that bringing someone along isn't the best idea.  First, some rooms can still be small (even more up-scale hotel rooms).  I've done hotel room shoots and I have gear strewn all over the place.  The more people in there, the more chance someone's gonna trip, step one something, etc.

Also, with some hotels you need to go through the lobby.  If it looks like Central Station with all the people going to the one room, it can cause suspicion.

Also, bringing a third-party (i.e. escorts) along that the photographer doesn't know can cause problem such as being liable for any damage caused or any mini-bar items being taken.
Aug 22 12 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Louisa-
Posts: 19
Adelaide, South Australia, Australia


On one hand I would feel better if I brought someone with me, on the other hand I feel this could be quite distracting or disorientating. I kind of feel I should go alone, I'm a big girl and should be able to handle myself as such.
Aug 22 12 07:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BTHPhoto
Posts: 6,765
Fairbanks, Alaska, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself.
Louisa-Marie wrote:
I kind of feel I should go alone, I'm a big girl and should be able to handle myself as such.

Naive, innocent victim-in-waiting to rational, responsible woman in one hour and seven minutes.  That just might be the fastest growing up process I've ever seen.  Congratulations, and have fun. smile

Aug 22 12 07:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Moodscapes
Posts: 419
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


From a photographer's point of view the main thing is that you do whatever you need to do to feel secure and comfortable. If you don't this will show in the shots.

It's good the photographers are happy for you to bring an escort - that shows good faith on their part. But it's definitely best to check with other models they've worked with.

And talk to them - tell them you're new to this and that the first part of the shoot might be a bit awkward while you get used to it. That way they're prepared and if they're halfway professional they'll organise the shoot accordingly.
Aug 22 12 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


My first shoot in a hotel room was a bondage shoot. To me, 'upscale' hotels are way safer than most studios for reasons mentioned at the beginning of the thread. I didn't get murdered or raped. But then again the photographer/rigger was well-known and I checked references.

But you should ALWAYS do your homework as a model, to check references. And trust your gut feeling.
Aug 22 12 07:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jansu
Posts: 226
Albany, New York, US


If it's gonna be a love hotel or a cheap motel. I refuse.
Aug 22 12 08:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Camerosity
Posts: 5,059
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. I have the photographers phone number, real name etc etc and we may also shoot swimwear at the hotel pool which is obviously a very public domain so I understand there is nothing to worry about. However it's better to be safe.

If the pool is indoors, you might be able to get exclusive use of it, if you want to try different lighting, etc.

It doesn't happen often - but the bell captain held the other guests at bay for nearly an hour while I set up and did the pool shot in my portfolio. I wanted to use a gelled light for the blue effect. We didin't want some guest knocking the strobes into the water- roughly 500 volts stored in the capacitors between shots.

Yes, the light stands were sandbagged - and an assistant also had his hand wrapped around the stand the whole time.

Aug 22 12 08:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MDWM
Posts: 537
Los Angeles, California, US


Take someone with you. Why take a chance? Yes, having someone there who is not part of the shoot can be a distraction. This is your first time out so you should err on the side of caution. I'd rather have bad pictures than a bad experience. I would also make sure the shoot is during the day.
Aug 22 12 08:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rich Burroughs
Posts: 3,257
Portland, Oregon, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
On one hand I would feel better if I brought someone with me, on the other hand I feel this could be quite distracting or disorientating. I kind of feel I should go alone, I'm a big girl and should be able to handle myself as such.

Another option then is to bring someone but have them wait in the lobby/bar/somewhere nearby.

I don't allow escorts but I have no complaint about having someone drop off the model and pick them up. And I've had models make check in calls/texts when they've arrived several times, I see nothing wrong there either.

I once had a mutual cancellation with a model who insisted her boyfriend be in the tiny hotel room with us while we shot. That's too awkward for me, it would have been just the three of us in there.

Aug 22 12 08:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Dekilah
Posts: 4,869
Detroit, Michigan, US


Most of this has already been said, but I will echo it again:
- check references with models who have shot in hotel rooms with the photographer

- let someone know where you will be and text them the room number once you know what it is (more for your peace of mind)

- if you do feel bringing someone will help, maybe have someone drop you off at the room and then arrange to have them meet you when the shot is done, this way they are not in the way, but you get your peace of mind

But most importantly, if you are getting any red flags, there is no reason to do the shoot. You will likely look uncomfortable in the shots and that is of no use to any one.

All of that being said, I have done plenty of shoots in hotel rooms and never had an issue.
Aug 22 12 08:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Winn Photography
Posts: 2,067
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
On one hand I would feel better if I brought someone with me, on the other hand I feel this could be quite distracting or disorientating. I kind of feel I should go alone, I'm a big girl and should be able to handle myself as such.

You could bring someone so you feel safer having someone close but leave them in the lobby, poolside, elsewhere so they don't interfere with the shoot or distact you. Just the fact that there is someone nearby would probably help put you more at ease.

And like has been said... Check References

Aug 22 12 08:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Nylon
Posts: 414
Singapore, Singapore, Singapore


-JAY- wrote:
Check references and do your homework.

Go. When you don't get murdered, it'll be easier next time.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110328/19/4d9149b5822ee_m.jpg

+1 Hahahahaha

Generally most shoots in decent hotels are quite safe and of course reference checking is a must but as a precaution always keep in mind your own safety. Now I am not trying to scare off your confidence but I speak from experience that even though I took every precaution in the book some photogs just lose their marbles. Your best safety defense is to own your own confidence, as vague as that may sound but it does deter a would be pervy photog if he realizes that you're not one to be trifled with.

Packing some heat would help too haha big_smile

Aug 22 12 08:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
291
Posts: 11,911
SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US


if it's an upscale hotel ask to meet in the lounge for a coke before the shoot.  trust your initial instincts.
Aug 22 12 08:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DavidCoward Photography
Posts: 629
Sandy Springs, Georgia, US


Moodscapes wrote:
From a photographer's point of view the main thing is that you do whatever you need to do to feel secure and comfortable. If you don't this will show in the shots.

This.

Aug 23 12 06:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ken D Photography
Posts: 672
Marietta, Ohio, US


Jansu wrote:
If it's gonna be a love hotel or a cheap motel. I refuse.

Cheap motels with peeling paint, stained bathrooms, torn furniture and bad lighting can result in some great photos.
On the other hand, if there is no studio available a high end hotel is probably much safer since they usually have good security.

Aug 23 12 06:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Neil Snape
Posts: 9,444
Paris, Île-de-France, France


Why not go, your person that comes with you says hi, I'll be in the lobby. Every one will be happy, but again as said above check references and go with your instincts!
Aug 23 12 06:29 am  Link  Quote 
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Tahir SOYLU
Posts: 28
İstanbul, İstanbul, Turkey


I don't like hotel rooms. There are too secure for llamas. I might be caught while cutting her head off . I prefer desert for shooting it comes with the benefit of burying the body easily. big_smile
Aug 23 12 06:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


Louisa-Marie wrote:
However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious?

If you don't trust the photographer then don't go.

If you do trust him then you should feel fine after a few minutes.




Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

Aug 23 12 06:45 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
sospix
Posts: 21,128
Orlando, Florida, US


Come to Florida, and shoot at a Disney hotel, with a photographer named "SOS"  .  .  .  Mickey won't let nuthin' bad happen to ya  .  .  .  wink  You can always have an escort accompany you to the hotel, have everyone meet, set some sort of timetable, keep your cell nearby, and have your escort wait in the bar until the shoot is over  .  .  .  if you've done all your due diligence, you should be fine  .  .  .  hope the shoot goes well  .  .  . 

SOS
Aug 23 12 06:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Orcatek Photography
Posts: 1,686
Tempe, Arizona, US


-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:
If you don't trust the photographer then don't go.

If you do trust him then you should feel fine after a few minutes.


Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

+1

Dean
www.Orcatek.com

Aug 23 12 06:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,781
Olivet, Michigan, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm a new llama trying to build my portfolio to include fashion, lingerie and swimwear.

I've been asked by several photographers about doing tasteful lingerie shoots (no nudes, no spread legs etc) in an upscale hotel room... I understand that this is probably the best setting for lingerie shoots.

However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself. The photographers have offered that I bring anyone along I like.

However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from llamas who have done similar?

Same as if you're shooting somewhere else.  Find out about the proposed shoot, find out about the photographer, and trust your gut.

I have two images from hotels in my port.  Feel free to guess which ones.

Aug 23 12 06:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 11,781
Olivet, Michigan, US


Jansu wrote:
If it's gonna be a love hotel or a cheap motel. I refuse.

Super 8, $38 for the night. (18+)
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pi … 7#14350437

Aug 23 12 06:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MBradleyPhotography
Posts: 172
Houston, Texas, US


Real photographers are like gynecologist, they are there for only one thing... wait, that didn't come out right. wink
Aug 23 12 07:03 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,040
Olney, Maryland, US


Lightfire Creative wrote:
I also think that bringing someone along isn't the best idea.  First, some rooms can still be small (even more up-scale hotel rooms).  I've done hotel room shoots and I have gear strewn all over the place.  The more people in there, the more chance someone's gonna trip, step one something, etc.

This.

Quite a few images in my portfolio were shot in hotels and B

Aug 23 12 07:10 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Harold Rose
Posts: 2,925
Calhoun, Georgia, US


Louisa-Marie wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm a new model trying to build my portfolio to include fashion, lingerie and swimwear.

I've been asked by several photographers about doing tasteful lingerie shoots (no nudes, no spread legs etc) in an upscale hotel room... I understand that this is probably the best setting for lingerie shoots.

However, as a young girl on one of her first shoots, I am obviously a little nervous about showing up at a hotel by myself. The photographers have offered that I bring anyone along I like.

However, if I wanted to go alone, how can I become less nervous and anxious? Any advice from models who have done similar?

TO ME:    I would never ask a model to work in a motel or hotel room..  Most generally you will not be able to get permission from the property owners..   If you try to sneek it through and they find out..  I hope you have bond money...

I shoot in the studio..    If there is something that the Ad agency wants,  then I will rent or borrow it from  a furnature store,  we have several that we work with..

Aug 23 12 07:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
All Yours Photography
Posts: 2,245
Toledo, Ohio, US


I have done several hotel room shoots, including my first shoot ever with a model (also her first shoot ever).

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/081209/15/493ed243edf93_m.jpg

Only once did the model bring an escort, who just worked on his laptop.  However, the room was so packed with gear & props, the only place he could sit and be out of the way was in the bathroom.  After about an hour of that, he went down to the lobby.
Aug 23 12 07:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Halcyon Arts
Posts: 173
Washington, District of Columbia, US


You may want to check with the photographer, but whenever I've shot in a hotel it wasn't  prohibitively expensive to use a suite so clothes, extra rigging,escorts,etc were generally in the other room and pretty out of the way.  Also, the fixtures were a little more upscale.
Aug 23 12 03:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JadeDRed
Posts: 5,319
London, England, United Kingdom


Louisa-Marie wrote:
On one hand I would feel better if I brought someone with me, on the other hand I feel this could be quite distracting or disorientating. I kind of feel I should go alone, I'm a big girl and should be able to handle myself as such.

If it seems appropriate get someone to drop you off at the hotel then wait at a cafe and then meet you afterwards. Long, quiet lonely journeys can be time that your nerves run riot.

Aug 23 12 04:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JadeDRed
Posts: 5,319
London, England, United Kingdom


-B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote:

If you don't trust the photographer then don't go.

If you do trust him then you should feel fine after a few minutes.




Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

I never understand this 'trust a complete stranger' mentality, why would you trust someone you had never met?

Aug 23 12 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photographe
Posts: 2,350
Bristol, England, United Kingdom


Dekilah wrote:
Most of this has already been said, but I will echo it again:
- check references with llamas who have shot in hotel rooms with the photographer

- let someone know where you will be and text them the room number once you know what it is (more for your peace of mind)

- if you do feel bringing someone will help, maybe have someone drop you off at the room and then arrange to have them meet you when the shot is done, this way they are not in the way, but you get your peace of mind

But most importantly, if you are getting any red flags, there is no reason to do the shoot. You will likely look uncomfortable in the shots and that is of no use to any one.

All of that being said, I have done plenty of shoots in hotel rooms and never had an issue.

This

plus it should never be about the money, but if it's the right direction for your port and whether you will enjoy it or not.

Besides, the two old ladies in the next room are going to call the police anyway...

Aug 23 12 04:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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