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I just found my own way to change wardrobe without showing anything. New top on before taking the other off etc. Oct 08 12 09:56 am Link I've shot with a few models now, both new and experienced, and have always been absolutely amazed at the ability to change without any skin anywhere showing when they didn't want to show it. I was most amazed by the model/dancer who managed to divest herself of dance tights from under her leotard without removing the leotard. Note: I've always turned away/left the room (there's something fascinating about the view out of a window sometimes) unless told specifically that there was no need to do so due to their confidence in their ability to change. Oct 08 12 12:11 pm Link Jeff Fiore wrote: $29 thousand as part of a settlement for being arrested while walking around topless. Had nothing to do with breastfeeding, and everything to do with her right to be as topless as guys. Oct 08 12 01:09 pm Link In New Jersey, public nudity is not allowed at all (as far as I know). I do believe it's a 4th degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in the county jail, a $7500 fine AND one must register as a sex offender under Megan's Law. I haven't heard of any women being arrested for public nudity, but I have heard of a few men who have been locked up, fined and made to register because they were "nude" in public. What one guy really did is go into the woods to take a leak and someone saw him do it. I won't pose for nude pictures and I won't ask anyone else to do it, either, especially in public. Oct 08 12 06:03 pm Link NYCArthur wrote: While this is true (same for Toronto) your average joe or Jill out for a stroll who happens upon a topless chick may not know this, or even if they do, are morally offended and shocked by it. Legal doesn't necessarily make it socially acceptable. Oct 08 12 07:45 pm Link I just have models bring oversized t shirts to put on and change bikinis under when we are out in the open. Oct 08 12 07:55 pm Link Oct 08 12 08:13 pm Link Anna Adrielle wrote: I have one but have never used it. Models just strip down. Oct 08 12 08:27 pm Link Lovely Day Media wrote: New Jersey does have a designated clothing optional beach where nudity is legal. Of course it is actually Federal land so the State law does not apply there. Oct 09 12 07:28 pm Link I shot in Brooklyn with 3 models. Not only can you be topless in New York you can be nude in New York if it is tied to performance. Models do get arrested and for a number of years these cases have been thrown out. And yes models have won cash awards from the city. I plan to shoot is San Fransico where it is legal to be nude on the street. And I plan on shooting nudes when I am there. There is nothing like urban art nudes. Now of course I try to be as discrete as possible, but at the end of the day like in New york there are alot of people passing by. Oct 09 12 07:38 pm Link Lovely Day Media wrote: That is an important thing to remember. In some states, if you get arrested for indecent exposure, you must then register as a sex offender. It is important to also remember that it is the model, not the photographer, that is going to be cited. Oct 09 12 08:32 pm Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Boy, you really need to re-read your caselaw. You are completely misinterpreting the law and giving very bad advice. Oct 09 12 08:42 pm Link It's legal to be nude in public in Vermont. Changing clothes or tops is nothing. I am a Vermont native and check each year to make sure the laws haven't changed there. I've done shoots in public there while people watched. You just can't be doing anything lewd. Avoiding children might be a good idea, too. Oct 09 12 08:51 pm Link Pretty much anything goes in San Francisco, except getting plastic bags at grocery stores, buying cigarettes at drug stores, assuming you won't be ticketed at parking meters on holidays (and soon Sundays), and probably voting Republican. Oct 09 12 09:03 pm Link ei Total Productions wrote: This is simply not true. Often it is the photographer "because it was him who caused the indecent act." How do I know? I've been convicted for this for a fully clothed model, all be it in a dress sans panties. In a remote mountain area, the only other person around was the cop who saw us leave the parking lot with a camera and followed us. He looked up her dress while she stood on a rock and issued the citation to me. Oct 09 12 09:12 pm Link Though it is nice to have the law on my side as far as shooting nudes in NY State forests (I shoot in the Adirondacks a lot) I still feel the need to be courteous to other people who are also using the parks as well and schedule my shoots for when the least number of people will be around. Tends to make the model feel a little less self conscious too. Oct 09 12 09:31 pm Link ei Total Productions wrote: PTPhotoUT wrote: First, this thread is about a model changing in public. If indecent exposure is illegal, it is only the model who can be charged with indecent exposure, not the photographer. Oct 09 12 09:36 pm Link oOut of sheer respect for adults and children who are not be interested or even find it offensive to see my nudey bits I don't ever take my gear off in public. Just because I'm OK with it doesn't mean everyone else is. It's a bit wriggly but not THAT hard to keep the modesty by slipping the arms through the armholes of a singlet top pop the clothes on over and slip the singlet top out from under the outfits. Either that or change under a coat. But if I'm pre-warned about the shoot I'll bring a tube dress so I can put the outfit on over and then slide the tube dress off from under. Oct 09 12 09:52 pm Link I'm not sure what it really is, but it's Arizona, so I'm guessing it's head to toe clothing at all times. Oct 09 12 10:08 pm Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: Shot in Arizona. Oct 10 12 09:01 am Link I wouldn't mind being topless in public just to change a shirt, but I would probably be arrested in my state. Oct 10 12 09:06 am Link Jessie Shannon wrote: I had a midday shoot that was risky in the area recently. Oct 10 12 09:10 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: Ive done public nudes in places it was illegal too. Oct 10 12 11:11 am Link Laura UnBound wrote: One of those shots was in a park in Arizona. The model selected the location. It was just before sunset. When we went back to the car a park ranger stopped and asked if we were OK. We were lucky. Oct 10 12 11:17 am Link Nice to live in Oregon where we have few restrictions. However; the more you push the harder sometimes it can come back and bite you such as the current row in Castro district San Francisco. I would prefer to have a model changing booth. While legally being topless etc is one thing, there is also the fact that you could draw attention and be hit with something else such as permits, questions of lude behavior, performance art (you might be drawing a crowd) and other things that could detain your time. Maybe you want the attention to get you into the news. It sure worked for Andy Golub and Zoe West. Oct 10 12 11:43 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: That doesn't answer the question of whether or not it was LEGAL (which is the topic of the thread, not "what can you get away with if you're sneaky") Oct 10 12 12:31 pm Link Laura UnBound wrote: We didn't ask. Since we were in a public park it was very likely that it was illegal. We were careful and listened for cars but someone did walk by. Oct 10 12 12:45 pm Link MnPhoto wrote: If a law seems too good to sound true, be wary. Oct 10 12 01:13 pm Link MnPhoto wrote: I am not sure what part of NYC you were in. New Yorkers have seen it all, they don't give a fu*k on any thing. Nothing will surprise them. May be you are talking the tourists. Oct 10 12 01:13 pm Link Connor Photography wrote: My general experience is that people are more likely to be offended or get overly-concerned in suburban and rural areas Oct 10 12 01:14 pm Link Your best bet is primitive/undeveloped public land, which is where I have done all my outdoor nudes so far. Also, one should take every step possible to avoid undesired encounters. I harbor resentment for photographers who push things by shooting nudes in places where common sense says you shouldn't. Sure they can get great images, but at a cost to us all and our reputations.. Oct 10 12 01:20 pm Link i am old fat and ugly... i take my top off and the llama can walk around nude and noone notices as they are doubled over laughing at me... Oct 10 12 01:29 pm Link I think it's just about being considerate. The photographer I usually work with goes out of his way to shoot at locations and times of the day where pedestrian traffic in particular are at a minimum. I'm good wearing an oversize long skirt changing bottoms and I'm at 5-3 I can duck behind a car to change my top. As long as you're not looking shady and suspicious I've found people will pay you little or no mind at all. Oct 10 12 01:31 pm Link Come to San Francisco. You'll have NO WORRIES. Nudity is legal. Oct 10 12 02:37 pm Link You need to check out this link and No it's not a porn site http://gotopless.org/ for more info on this subject. Oct 11 12 11:43 am Link NYCArthur wrote: San Francisco is open as well but that does not apply to every city in CA. Oct 14 12 11:49 am Link I bought a bed sheet. I hold it up. The model changes. No one sees. Easy stuff. Oct 15 12 01:02 pm Link |