George Ruge wrote:
It's like the first week of Idol around here sometimes!

It's William Hung all over again, but without his charm and his graceful ability to take a hint.

Blue Ash Film Group wrote:
Wow! This is not going to end well.

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
So far, its absolutely wonderful

CHUGGA CHUGGA, WOO WOO!

Shawn Meadows wrote:
^^^ really like your avi btw.

Thanks! And she's even nicer than she is pretty. A photographer's dream. After this thread, I appreciate her all the more.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

Thanks! And she's even nicer than she is pretty. A photographer's dream. After this thread, I appreciate her all the more.

You'll get more with honey than vinegar

Jade Honey wrote:
I just read the entirity of this thread.... I am a smiley lady at the moment. A few giggles and what not.

When the thread is a lemon, make lemonade.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

When the thread is a lemon, make lemonade.

....I do like lemonade
It just seems as though this lovely lady wanted to be told that she was beautiful and would do brilliantly in the industry and then argued the whole way through the thread when people say otherwise.. I personally think, go for it if you think you have it! And best of luck. I model for fun and to create lovely images not for money.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

When the thread is a lemon, make lemonade.

You have some Ahh...Ma...Zing images by the way, turely breath taking

In Balance Photography wrote:
Well she got a lot of image views .

So Does that Car wreck on the side of the Hi way , everyone cant help but look at the messed up pile of Metal and Flesh , You just can't stop looking at it , regardless of how Bloody of a mess of gross goo it maybe , your eyes continue to stare as you drive by .....

In Balance Photography wrote:
Well she got a lot of image views .

And a couple comments from people trying to be nice

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
I think this is a joke profile and thread.

Very entertaining, nonetheless.

Can we Say 'Delusional Threads'


I am surprised Dean Johnson wasn't brought up...

Kimberley Elodie wrote:
Hi Karl. What I am doing is not really arguing, it is more like providing clarity to misguided thoughts. The problem with these online communities is that everyone is anonymous, no matter how many photos, videos, comments, bios,  and even 'proofs' people can put on their site. Fact of the matter is that everyone knows that the chances of interacting with these individuals in real life are ridiculously slim (unless a collective effort is made towards meeting up).

Not in the REAL world that this industry is made up of .
I work with SEVERAL agencies National & International ,  and trust me (have also Help SEVERAL Models get Signed ) , we all know each other one way or another .
  I don't use any fake studio name(s) This is My REAL Name. We all TALK and we All KNOW each or OF each other or know someone who KNOWS of Us.
  It is a REAL small world out there ...



p.s. None of the  agencies I work with would sign the OP.

Escalante wrote:

Not in the REAL world this industry is made up of .
I work with SEVERAL agencies National & International , and trust me , we all know each other one way or another .
  I don't use any fake studio name(s) This is My REAL Name. We all TALK and we All KNOW each or OF each other or know someone who KNOWS of Us.
  It is a REAL small world out there ...



p.s. None of the  agencies I work with would sign the OP.

+10000

PhotographybyT wrote:
Wow! (@ thread) ...just wow...and I don't mean in a good way.

well it has certain comical value..

Jade Honey wrote:

You have some Ahh...Ma...Zing images by the way, turely breath taking

Thank yew.

Kimberley Elodie wrote:
Hello everyone on llamamayhem.com!

I am one of the newest members of this community, and I made this thread for several purposes: to network, to learn, and to progress!! I am looking to connect and have a general discussion about things newbies to the scene show know, master, and be wary of.

Please give me, my page, my work, and anything else that catches your eye an overall critique. I FULLY ENCOURAGE YOU to add me, check out my webpage and give me your brutally honest opinions, thoughts, compliments, and criticism. I am here to grow as an industry professional and definitely make invaluable connects with real people who care (and not scam artists).


My back story:

I am a 21 year old journalism major turned llama from NYC. I was always unsure of which direction I should take my life, but not too long ago it became clear that I am a natural born entertainer, dying to take flight and soar in her entertainment dreams! Acting, singing, dancing, and writing are just a few of my many creative passions.

I joined llamamayhem.com to meet more professionals in the llamaing and entertainment industry, and also to find local or distant work. In a nutshell, I am broadening my horizons, accepting mentors, and am definitely open to making new, exciting friendships.



Lastly, do you have any tips or advice for a petite, new llama like myself? How can I use this site to hone in on my skills, and find niche?

I really haven't had too much luck meeting people who want to discuss their journey, trials, and tribulations here. I hope this thread can help clear the fog on navigating through the hazy road to success here at llamamayhem.com!

Thank you for reading, now fire away!!

Peace, love, unity, respect. -Kimberley Elle

EDIT: PLEASE, NO TROLLING. I made this post to get feedback from everyone that will help me better myself, however name calling and bitterness is not welcome here. If you do not care about me, I will care even less about your input.

Ok. Well. Your enthusiasm is adorable (you're gonna need it in order to survive here in this place).

In looking at your profile, 2 things grabbed my attention.

1 was the fact that you lay claim to "Very Experienced" and the other was "Stunt" under Genres.

Now I'm curious as to what you feel makes you qualify for the "Very Experienced" section when you are new to llamaing?

Also as for "stunt"...what stunts are you able to perform? And why do you feel this is necessary to include in your Genres at all?

Now as for your portfolio, it is lacking in many areas. Please know I am not trying to be mean here, just observing and responding.

The ballerina images are dreadful at best and doesn't flatter you in the least (my opinion is that unless you are a 90 lb. waif, please do not portray yourself as a ballerina, works about as much as a hippo in a belly dancer outfit, NOT that I am calling you a hippo at all, just wanting the mods

_ Robyn Elizabeth _ wrote:
I think after TinRoses' post is a good place for me to join in here since you were really very rude in your reply to her.

So as another comparism, your stats are almost identical to mine, now either:

1: You have worked with really bad photographers who make you look much larger than you are.
2: Your pictures are out of date and you have lost a lot of weight
3: You are not a size 4-6

For either of the first two options you really need to get some better pictures but you will find it hard to get people to work with you with that attitude.  I would say, option 3 is the most likely.

Even at my size, US 4 and sometimes 6 depending on the clothing range, I am both a bit large and rather too short to be a fashion model (oh and also too old but that doesn't refer to you).

You have a pretty face but you have a terrible attitude.  Noone on this thread was trying to be mean but you have a very distorted view of reality.

Get the attitude in check and enjoy the modelling as a hobby.

+1

OP: I wouldn't work with you, as your port is weak, and your attitude doesn't make up for it. A large ego doesn't book you work; your looks, demeanor, talent displayed do. All of which you need to work on.

Swank Photography wrote:
Also as for "stunt"...what stunts are you able to perform?

The self-immolation she's performed in this thread has been pretty memorable.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

The self-immolation she's performed in this thread has been pretty memorable.

Honestly I havent read any of the other responses as of yet...but I am about to now.

Orca Bay Images wrote:

I don't suggest it blithely, but when a really raw beginner posts images like these:

...she damned well needs to work with better photographers. A pretty new dress isn't going to fix shots like that.

And, yes, a model who's not exactly built like an SI swimsuit model and has almost no modeling chops may well need to pay to work with a competent photographer.

^100% agree^

Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:
WOW I thought this would have been given a mercy lock already at page one.

I know, I'm just a cock-eyed optimist, but wouldn't it be nice if some other misinformed newbies might stumble across it, read it all the way through, say to herself, "Wow!  Do I come across like that?" and learn from it?

I live in hope.

Kimberley Elodie wrote:
Your comments give me a glimpse into who you are, and that knowledge alone strips you of any credibility.

Getting snarky here doesn't help you in the least.

I am an individual, I don't let others decide my fate or how I view myself.

Congratulations.

What makes you think that I really care about your opinion on how "hard" I am trying on my profile?

Simple, you are asking for opions/advice/etc. from others. If you don't want to know, or don't want advice, then don't post and seek it out. Remember: ask and ye shall receive

Maybe you are an underachiever

You do not know Orca in the least so stop being rude here or the mods will put you in time out for being rude. Also, it tends to put you in a bad light and nobody will want to remotely work with you from here at all simply because of your attitiude.

but my dynamic personality always drives me to impress and go above and beyond with anything I do. That includes taking about my dazzling, dynamic, multifaceted personality.

Believing your own hype is a good start, but not when you come off in poor light. Knock it off. There is a HUGE difference before confidence and being obnoxious. Learn it quickly.

This is a networking site buddy, get with the program.

You might want to heed your own advice here young lady.

Don't come on internet message boards hiding behind your computer trying to bring down someone because you are too narrow minded.

Again you might want to heed your own advice on this one too.

You know OP...I changed my mind about giving youa chance if you were down here. With this attitude you displayed here (and I am not even off the first page of this train wreck of yours yet), I can clearly see that you are not worth my time or energy (and defintely not worth my camera).

I wish you the best in your short "modeling" experience.

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
Isn't there a rule about arguing with people when you asked for the critique?

I think it's more a guideline or recommendation, rather than a rule. Arguing about feedback is just bad form.

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:
Isn't there a rule about arguing with people when you asked for the critique?

Orca Bay Images wrote:
I think it's more a guideline or recommendation, rather than a rule. Arguing about feedback is just bad form.

I believe it says to be nice on the first page of the thread, then all hell can break loose once past that.
{Edit: Will actually read the guide lines again}


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[* These are guidelines, not rules. Following them is more courtesy than urgency. Hopefully by following them you will help keep the section from becoming unruly.]


[Do not argue with other respondents about their critiques or attack their work and credibility.]

[Disagree with the critique of others in a respectful manner. Remember that critiques can be extremely stressful, and adding to that stress by flaming other users is not allowed.]

[When you request a critique, you are opening yourself up to aggressive criticism of your work and techniques. If someone says something unfavorable about your work, that does not give you the right to cop an attitude with them, or to critique their work in return. In posting in the critique section you are asking for come what may: the good, the bad, and the ugly.]


[Respond directly to the original poster at least until the thread has gone past 41 posts (when a second page appears).]

Actually the way critiques seem to work is you learn as much from the critique of others as they hopefully do from you. Plus it is nice to have your opinions challenged from time to time, because it helps you validate your opinion, and if your open it may bring new light to an idea, or even a misconception you may have.

The whole idea is to learn from others, and many on MM have a lot of knowledge that they are willing to share.

Photograph often, and enjoy the experience