Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
UPDATE: July/August 2015 NYC Meeting MM's NYC Cabal "Summer of All Summers 10 Years Anniversary Bash!" Given the difficulty to get everybody together at the same time, let's poll current, ex.- and even "banned" MMers for the day of the week, most can come together. Please, follow the link above to FB and select TWO days of the week... for July or August, so that we can reach as many people as possible. The days that collect the most votes will be used. Location: TBA ###################################################################################### MM's NYC Cabal (on Facebook) Description: "Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize." ###################################################################################### January 21, New York City: Inofficial Model Mayhem Meetup On Facebook: January 21, New York City: Inofficial MM Meet & Greet At The Pink Pony 176 Ludlow St, New York, New York 10002 (212) 253-1922 7 PM EST until the memory card is full! On MM Events: January 21, New York City's 1st MM Party of 2013 ###################################################################################### ===================================================== So, I have been contacted by MM'ers in OT or PM regarding getting together and hanging out. We used to have events like that many years ago, a few times a year, and because there are so many shooters, models, MUA's, stylists etc. specifically in the NYC metropolitan area and those were always a great deal of fun. I haven't seen those and checked with some other old timers and they told me that it's almost impossible to organize such events, because the administration put some new rules about events into place and those are disappearing so fast that nobody is able to see those and to get organized. Don't know the whole story yet... but, considering the great community that we had, were me met anybody from Brian Diaz, to Stephen Bodi, Ched Beckwith, Nemi Bea, Mark, to name just a small selection that comes immediately to my mind to network, having a few beers and just shooting the crap...  Does anybody have an idea how we can get organized for a meetup, without violating MM's Rules&Regs? I mean... if there is any interest beyond the four people that have contacted me... MM's NYC Cabal (on Facebook) Description: "Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize."
Model
immateria
Posts: 15446
Brooklyn, New York, US
Maybe set up a separate page on meetup.com?
I'd be down.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
I'm down:)
I have to meet a designer soon anyway:)
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Jules NYC wrote:
I'm down:)
I have to meet a designer soon anyway:) Julie! Check the FB link!
I've got to let Blue Moon know too!
Model
immateria
Posts: 15446
Brooklyn, New York, US
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2521
Brooklyn, New York, US
Im down
I went to some of the NY MM events back in the day was great connecting with people from the site face to face
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
udor wrote:
Julie! Check the FB link!
I've got to let Blue Moon know too! I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:)
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Jules NYC wrote:
I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:) Oh... damn... okay!
Done... can you check if it works for you now...
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2521
Brooklyn, New York, US
Jules NYC wrote:
I don't have a FB account!
Must make it public:) Ditto
I dont have one either
Please post here as well when you announce event
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
udor wrote:
Oh... damn... okay!
Done... can you check if it works for you now... 'tis not working Udor:)
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5486
New York, New York, US
Not sure what's so complicated about the MM rules on Events. I used to host one every Monday night with pretty good success, and those rules have not changed. Granted I had free access to the space (cafe) and attendance varied from 6-35 people each week.
If I had time to host another one, I wouldn't do it on a weekly basis though. It becomes routine after a while.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
RacerXPhoto wrote:
Ditto
I dont have one either
Please post here as well when you announce event Jules NYC wrote:
'tis not working Udor:) Okay... I'll think of something... maybe a meetup.com group...
But, there are already 35 MM'ers signed up and the numbers are rising... goes pretty quick...
Meetup.com charges for the group... just tried to create one... so, we are going to stay on FB and will post on MM Event forum when we organize something with a definite date.
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5486
New York, New York, US
udor wrote:
Okay... I'll think of something... maybe a meetup.com group...
But, there are already 35 MM'ers signed up and the numbers are rising... goes pretty quick... Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well.
Here is the old Dame: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=261719
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
tenrocK photo wrote:
Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well. Nah... got a different solution... well... not totally different.
I intent the FB group to be something where people can either loosely organize a get together, or a larger event...
Once we organize a larger MM event on FB and set a date, we will make a post in the MM Event Section with an official announcement of that unofficial MM member's get together...
This way, we can have a permanent group and just crossposting... it's better for the community...
You'll see... 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
tenrocK photo wrote:
Just start a thread in "Events" when the first event is organized, then bump it ahead of the next one. I made a point of keeping mine on the first page and it worked pretty well.
Here is the old Dame: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=261719 Your old Dame is more a grandchild... LOL
We had our first NY MM meetings in 2005... 
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5486
New York, New York, US
udor wrote:
Your old Dame is more a grandchild... LOL
We had our first NY MM meetings in 2005... I wasn't born yet...
Photographer
Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17716
San Diego Country Estates, California, US
Photographer
Llobet Photography
Posts: 4915
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
Yups, I joined the fb group.
I feel complicit in this since I did a couple of pms to get the ball rolling.
Thanks Udor.
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Rays Fine Art
Posts: 7504
New York, New York, US
immateria wrote:
Maybe set up a separate page on meetup.com?
I'd be down. That makes the most sense to me, but I have to admit that as a 75-year old non-drinker, who only shoots trade, and who tends to be uncomfortable in this sort of group situation, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable participating.
That said, I think it's a terrific idea but I'm not at all sure how well it can work, given that there is such a wide range of experience, skill and interest sets on MM, especially in the New York area. And the sheer potential size of such a group is somewhat staggering. With a base population of over 50,000 members within a 50 mile radius, the problem is less one of if the effort fails than one of if it succeeds. I can't imagine renting Yankee stadium for an informal get-together! Although some of that might be resolved by forming separate special interest groups, one for fashion, one for art, one for fetish, etc. but then there are already a number of such meet-up groups around town and unless there were some sort of steering committee pulling them together around the central theme of MM, (which I'd imagine, would be kinda like herding cats) they would lose sight of the original purpose in short order.
Another stumbling block would be the divide between those who do this for fun and those who do it for pay. I have tried a couple of model/photographer meetups but found that this schism developed pretty quickly, which killed what interest I had. It apparently killed what interest the others had as well because they seemed to die after the first few meetings only to be replaced by other, similar groups.
I'm not trying to be the Grinch here--I do think it would be a very valuable and fun thing to have, especially for the newcomers, but it would also be hard to get rolling and to keep rolling.
All IMHO, as always.
Model
Nemi
Posts: 27413
Jamaica, New York, US
Rays Fine Art wrote:
That makes the most sense to me, but I have to admit that as a 75-year old non-drinker, who only shoots trade, and who tends to be uncomfortable in this sort of group situation, I'm not sure that I'd be comfortable participating.
That said, I think it's a terrific idea but I'm not at all sure how well it can work, given that there is such a wide range of experience, skill and interest sets on MM, especially in the New York area. And the sheer potential size of such a group is somewhat staggering. With a base population of over 50,000 members within a 50 mile radius, the problem is less one of if the effort fails than one of if it succeeds. I can't imagine renting Yankee stadium for an informal get-together! Although some of that might be resolved by forming separate special interest groups, one for fashion, one for art, one for fetish, etc. but then there are already a number of such meet-up groups around town and unless there were some sort of steering committee pulling them together around the central theme of MM, (which I'd imagine, would be kinda like herding cats) they would lose sight of the original purpose in short order.
Another stumbling block would be the divide between those who do this for fun and those who do it for pay. I have tried a couple of model/photographer meetups but found that this schism developed pretty quickly, which killed what interest I had. It apparently killed what interest the others had as well because they seemed to die after the first few meetings only to be replaced by other, similar groups.
I'm not trying to be the Grinch here--I do think it would be a very valuable and fun thing to have, especially for the newcomers, but it would also be hard to get rolling and to keep rolling.
All IMHO, as always. It's totally not that complicated. We would set a time and date that worked for most people, and take over a restaurant or a bar. Sometimes we'd have a space reserved for us, sometimes we would just invade in droves sporting MM t shirts to find each other 
It worked.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
BlueMoonPics wrote:
Yups, I joined the fb group.
I feel complicit in this since I did a couple of pms to get the ball rolling.
Thanks Udor. Yes!!! You were one of the instigators...
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Why can't someone just suggest a place and just go to it without a big production and trailer.
Model
Gabrielle Heather
Posts: 10064
Middle Island, New York, US
Im not joining that fb thing. I dont want people connected to me on there. I keep mm and fb separate. Not everyone has a business and personal fb. I will follow this thread. i dont leave my place much anyways though, but it might be fun to do this. Im out east on Long Island though.
Model
Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Rudy's is cool on 9th Avenue
Photographer
tenrocK photo
Posts: 5486
New York, New York, US
Jules NYC wrote:
Rudy's is cool on 9th Avenue Dive bar heh? Yeah, one of NYC's best for sure I actually like it there. You can meet every kind of soul and if you don't strike a conversation with a complete stranger within 10 minutes, you're doing it wrong
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Nemi wrote:
It's totally not that complicated. We would set a time and date that worked for most people, and take over a restaurant or a bar. Sometimes we'd have a space reserved for us, sometimes we would just invade in droves sporting MM t shirts to find each other
It worked. Exactly!
It's simple and not complicated at all... and it's not some "interest group" thing, Ray, it's for MM'ers of all ability, experience etc., to come out... hang, talk, meet, socialize, have fun without pressure.
Used to be great fun... people hooked up for photoshoots..., organized shoot-outs as a group... good friendships and camaraderie built up and also a lot of professional networks were established where pros were shooting each other job assignments they couldn't do...
As I said on FB, in a reply to Nemi, it's getting back to the roots of being a community.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Jules NYC wrote:
Why can't someone just suggest a place and just go to it without a big production and trailer. That's the thing... it's about just suggesting, but it's also supposed to be a permanent/occasional forum where people can adhoc suggest a dive bar and three or five people show up... because they are connected on FB via that group.
Then there is the bigger unofficial MM event, which will be organized from there, and then an official event announcement is done on the MM Event section and the link should be posted in this thread! (you should subscribe to this thread, so you won't get lost)...
This should work for the FB boycotting crowd...
Photographer
fsp
Posts: 3656
New York, New York, US
No FB here.
Casting call?
All NYC togs for interview at local pub?
I'm in!
Just tell me where n when?
BYOM?.. bring your own model?
Model
Nemi
Posts: 27413
Jamaica, New York, US
Photographer
Wicked Photos
Posts: 7699
New York, New York, US
this sounds like fun.. i'd be down to attend if i timing it right.
about 2 years ago, or maybe more, i went to this meetup in the upper west side. it was just a bunch of guys in the back of the bar drinking and having a grand time.
Photographer
Roy Hubbard
Posts: 3199
East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, US
We could set up an offsite bulletin board or forum agnostic of any social networks or other membership sites. Say the word and it's done.
Photographer
Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17716
San Diego Country Estates, California, US
Roy Hubbard wrote:
We could set up an offsite bulletin board or forum agnostic of any social networks or other membership sites. Say the word and it's done. Word.
Model
ashara
Posts: 989
Brewster, New York, US
Lawrence Guy wrote:
Word. Out of curiousity, where in Putnam Valley do you live?
Photographer
A_Nova_Photography
Posts: 8652
Winston-Salem, North Carolina, US
udor wrote:
So, I have been contacted by MM'ers in OT or PM regarding getting together and hanging out.
We used to have events like that many years ago, a few times a year, and because there are so many shooters, models, MUA's, stylists etc. specifically in the NYC metropolitan area and those were always a great deal of fun.
I haven't seen those and checked with some other old timers and they told me that it's almost impossible to organize such events, because the administration put some new rules about events into place and those are disappearing so fast that nobody is able to see those and to get organized.
Don't know the whole story yet... but, considering the great community that we had, were me met anybody from Brian Diaz, to Stephen Bodi, Ched Beckwith, Nemi Bea, Mark, to name just a small selection that comes immediately to my mind to network, having a few beers and just shooting the crap...
Does anybody have an idea how we can get organized for a meetup, without violating MM's Rules&Regs?
I mean... if there is any interest beyond the four people that have contacted me...
EDIT: Just created
ModelMayhem's NYC Cabal (on Facebook)
Description:
"Model Mayhem's New York City Cabal is a meeting place for MM'ers that live in the metropolitan area of NYC or close enough to be able to participate in the occasional meeting to have a beer a herbal tea, to talk shop in person and organize group meetings to hang out and socialize." I'm in... I may be able to con Mark into coming out, I'm sure Bodi would...
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
ACPhotography wrote:
I'm in... I may be able to con Mark into coming out, I'm sure Bodi would... Stephen is already in and added members to the FB group!
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A_Nova_Photography
Posts: 8652
Winston-Salem, North Carolina, US
udor wrote:
Stephen is already in and added members to the FB group! I get added to so many groups I may already be a member, lol...
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