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Model

Calypso Moon

Posts: 848

Banning, California, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

There are no red flags in your profile, certainly nothing that makes you sound like a diva or difficult to work with, but it is very long -- maybe a little too long. The more you write, the less likely people are to read it all. It's good information but it could do with a little editing and tightening up.

Some sections could be moved out of the profile and into the pre-shoot communication, for example the paragraph on your preferred methods of payment. Also I don't think you need to discuss your allergies unless the photographer is actually planning something involving major makeup, in which case that would be the appropriate time to bring it up. A few changes like that, plus editing a superfluous word here and there would help a lot.

But in general, it all sounds very professional. I would not hesitate to contact you about setting up a shoot.

Great advice.  I'll work on paring down.  Thanks!

Jan 09 13 10:32 pm Link

Model

Jordan Bunniie

Posts: 1755

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

No red flags, nor did I expect to find any. Pro models generally do not have red flags in their profiles, that is one reason why they are pros. smile

borat

Jan 10 13 12:59 am Link

Model

HEATHER 19

Posts: 1156

Boston, Massachusetts, US

This is strictly about the profile text.

Sounds great if you can take a look

Jan 10 13 06:41 am Link

Model

JWest

Posts: 1000

Asheville, North Carolina, US

I'd like to know.

Jan 10 13 06:48 am Link

Model

Kristin Howell

Posts: 101

Morehead, Kentucky, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

There is nothing wrong with your profile text, but it is not very useful either. It is a typical newbie profile -- lots of enthusiasm (which is good!) but little direction. What are your goals in modeling? Which genres interest you the most? Are you open to shooting TF? If someone wanted to book you, what days/times are you available?

You say you have worked with many "accredited photographers." I have no idea what that means. If any of the photographers you have worked with are on MM, get their MM numbers and list them in your Credits section.

I don't know how much of a market there is for models in Kentucky, but I am guessing it is not very large. You say you were "born to travel", but have you made any specific plans to visit other cities? You cannot sit back and wait for photographers to buy you plane tickets. You will need to make it happen yourself. I realize you are in school right now, but maybe you can plan a trip over the summer.

I hope this critique does not sound overly negative. You are very beautiful, and if you were in my area I would probably take a chance on you, even though your profile text is only giving me a vague idea of who you are. I wish you much success in modeling! smile

Wow, you've give me a lot to think about! I guess I need to work on it a little more. Thank you though!

Jan 10 13 07:29 am Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

HEATHER 18 wrote:
This is strictly about the profile text.

Sounds great if you can take a look

You lead off your profile with a bit of bragging about a recent publication. Nothing wrong with that, you should be proud. Congratulations! smile

You have a very long list of credits. People have mixed opinions on that -- a lot of models don't even bother because they have "too many to list." Personally I like seeing the credits and/or a list of photographers you have worked with. I think it gives you credibility and shows that you take modeling seriously.

I'm not seeing any red flags. One minor point: it would be helpful to give the end date of your winter break, so photographers know the exact window in which you are available.

Jan 10 13 07:46 am Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Jojo West wrote:
I'd like to know.

You are another one who has a large image at the top of your profile that forces me to scroll down to read the text. However it is a very beautiful image so I can forgive it somewhat. smile

The part about your husband accompanying you to shoots could have been a red flag if you had worded it in a hostile or defensive manner, as I have seen many models do. However you handled it exactly right -- you sound very reasonable, and the deal with him dropping you off and then going out is exactly what I would have negotiated with you in private had the subject of escorts come up during pre-shoot communication.

Overall, it is a professionally written profile, no red flags.

Jan 10 13 08:10 am Link

Model

Luna Diosa

Posts: 13242

Elizabeth, New Jersey, US

smile

Jan 10 13 08:29 am Link

Model

Jane Smithly

Posts: 1097

Crowley, Texas, US

Me please big_smile

Jan 10 13 08:41 am Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Cynthia Serrano  wrote:
smile

No red flags. I appreciate the detailed list of body modifications, and also the list of concepts you are willing to shoot.

One small point, where you said this:

*Due to a unfortunate financial downfall I will not be shooting for the remainder of this year*

That's problematic for a couple of reasons. First, it is vague -- do you mean the remainder of 2012, or 2013? If it is the former, then it is out of date. Also you don't need to say that you had a financial downfall. A simple statement in bold at the very top of your profile that you are "not currently available for shoots" would be sufficient.

Jan 10 13 09:09 am Link

Model

_eMMe_

Posts: 866

Florence, Toscana, Italy

Interesting tred, go on, please!

Jan 10 13 09:22 am Link

Model

Nicole Nu

Posts: 3981

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I hope not!

Jan 10 13 09:28 am Link

Model

Luna Diosa

Posts: 13242

Elizabeth, New Jersey, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:
No red flags. I appreciate the detailed list of body modifications, and also the list of concepts you are willing to shoot.

One small point, where you said this:

*Due to a unfortunate financial downfall I will not be shooting for the remainder of this year*

That's problematic for a couple of reasons. First, it is vague -- do you mean the remainder of 2012, or 2013? If it is the former, then it is out of date. Also you don't need to say that you had a financial downfall. A simple statement in bold at the very top of your profile that you are "not currently available for shoots" would be sufficient.

Gotcha thanks! It was put up last year but my financial problems continue I will modify it though thanks for the tip big_smile

Jan 10 13 09:45 am Link

Model

Rachel Love

Posts: 294

Desert Hot Springs, California, US

Please let me know.

Jan 10 13 09:51 am Link

Model

Damianne

Posts: 15978

Austin, Texas, US

big_smile Sure

Jan 10 13 10:36 am Link

Model

Melodye Joy

Posts: 545

Rancho Cucamonga, California, US

By all means...always looking to improve and add/subtract anything that may be unattractive to readers/potential clients

Jan 10 13 10:42 am Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Autumn Rose Brightly wrote:
Me please big_smile

Okay, you do have one thing that I at least would consider a red flag. It is when you say, when talking about your tattoos and scars, that they are "easy to retouch out."

I have seen this attitude from a lot of models and it really, really bugs me. It is not for the models to decide how I should spend my time, and just because they think it should be quick and easy to remove a tattoo in post does not mean it will be. Sure, it might not take long to remove it from one photo, but what about those of us who shoot sets of a hundred or more photos? What about those of us who shoot video? Tattoos are the number one reason why I turn down models for paid shoots, and Photoshop can not solve all problems despite the fact that so many models seem to think it does.

Please don't take this little rant personally. It is not directed at you so much as it is at the models I have hired in the past who had that attitude. You seem like a really nice girl, and if you are only modeling as a hobby and to build your self-confidence then it probably doesn't matter. All I ask is that you don't ever show up to a shoot and surprise the photographer with a huge bruise or a new tattoo. Inform them ahead of time and let them decide if and how they want to deal with it. smile

Jan 10 13 12:07 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

_eMMe_ wrote:
Interesting tred, go on, please!

I get the sense from reading your profile that English is not your first language. That's not a problem, you write well enough that I can understand you, however there are some small grammatical errors and you might want to seek help from a native English speaker to get those fixed.

I don't think this is needed:

"Please, be professional on contacting me, otherwise I will not answer."

It is a spot of negativity on an otherwise positive profile, and the unprofessional photographers will ignore it anyway.

Jan 10 13 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

NicoleNudes wrote:
I hope not!

Nope. I can always tell the models who do this professionally, and you sound like one of them. smile

Okay, one tiny thing: If you have a second profile to display your clothed work, why not just put it right on your nude profile rather than telling people to PM you for the link? I do not like to initiate contact with a model until I am certain I want to hire her, and I would definitely want to review your non-nude work before making that decision.

Same thing goes for off-MM portfolios, websites, Facebook fan pages, etc. Link them right from your profile rather than making me ask for them. Otherwise I may never ask for them. (I see that you do have yours linked, I'm just adding that as a general statement.)

Jan 10 13 12:38 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Rachel Love wrote:
Please let me know.

Overall you sound upbeat and drama-free. I don't think you need to say this:

"Also, I cannot afford to pay anyone, and I am not looking for compensation either."

Don't dismiss either possibility. You might be offered a really great deal by a photographer whose work you admire, and decide you want to take it. Conversely, you might be surprised to open your messages one day and see that someone is asking for your rates! It doesn't hurt to keep your options open. Just say that you are open to shooting TF and leave it at that.

Jan 10 13 12:50 pm Link

Model

Jane Smithly

Posts: 1097

Crowley, Texas, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

Okay, you do have one thing that I at least would consider a red flag. It is when you say, when talking about your tattoos and scars, that they are "easy to retouch out."

I have seen this attitude from a lot of models and it really, really bugs me. It is not for the models to decide how I should spend my time, and just because they think it should be quick and easy to remove a tattoo in post does not mean it will be. Sure, it might not take long to remove it from one photo, but what about those of us who shoot sets of a hundred or more photos? What about those of us who shoot video? Tattoos are the number one reason why I turn down models for paid shoots, and Photoshop can not solve all problems despite the fact that so many models seem to think it does.

Please don't take this little rant personally. It is not directed at you so much as it is at the models I have hired in the past who had that attitude. You seem like a really nice girl, and if you are only modeling as a hobby and to build your self-confidence then it probably doesn't matter. All I ask is that you don't ever show up to a shoot and surprise the photographer with a huge bruise or a new tattoo. Inform them ahead of time and let them decide if and how they want to deal with it. smile

Oops, sorry about that. I meant no offense when I put that in and was actually recommended to by a photographer.

Jan 10 13 02:43 pm Link

Model

Charlotte White

Posts: 8

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

Hi! I'm new to MM, do you think my profile has any red flags?

Jan 10 13 03:10 pm Link

Model

Leone P

Posts: 515

Batley, England, United Kingdom

Hello,

I would be interested to know your thoughts. smile

Jan 10 13 03:13 pm Link

Model

Emily Smiles

Posts: 295

Columbia, South Carolina, US

me please?

Jan 10 13 03:14 pm Link

Model

Julia Steel

Posts: 2474

Sylvania, Ohio, US

me please. i never know if i give too much info or not enough, thanks! smile

Jan 10 13 04:34 pm Link

Model

HEATHER 19

Posts: 1156

Boston, Massachusetts, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

You lead off your profile with a bit of bragging about a recent publication. Nothing wrong with that, you should be proud. Congratulations! smile

You have a very long list of credits. People have mixed opinions on that -- a lot of models don't even bother because they have "too many to list." Personally I like seeing the credits and/or a list of photographers you have worked with. I think it gives you credibility and shows that you take modeling seriously.

I'm not seeing any red flags. One minor point: it would be helpful to give the end date of your winter break, so photographers know the exact window in which you are available.

Thanks

Jan 10 13 04:42 pm Link

Model

Nicole Nu

Posts: 3981

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

GoldRoseMedia wrote:
Nope. I can always tell the models who do this professionally, and you sound like one of them. smile

Okay, one tiny thing: If you have a second profile to display your clothed work, why not just put it right on your nude profile rather than telling people to PM you for the link? I do not like to initiate contact with a model until I am certain I want to hire her, and I would definitely want to review your non-nude work before making that decision.

Same thing goes for off-MM portfolios, websites, Facebook fan pages, etc. Link them right from your profile rather than making me ask for them. Otherwise I may never ask for them. (I see that you do have yours linked, I'm just adding that as a general statement.)

Thanks smile

The reason I don't have it linked is because my nude page may then show up when someone googles for my non-nude profile. I want to keep everything as separated as possible. I love doing nudes, but I don't want it to be easy to find out I do them if I don't want you to know.

Hence why I made this profile in the first place. If I didn't care, I would have just posted my nudes in my other profile.

Jan 10 13 04:59 pm Link

Model

all_names_are_taken

Posts: 337

Ankeny, Iowa, US

Please?

Jan 10 13 05:02 pm Link

Model

Loria Harrison

Posts: 1757

Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania, US

I'll bet my profile is interesting!
Loria

Jan 10 13 05:03 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Damianne wrote:
big_smile Sure

I appreciate your stating that you are "able to legally work in both Canada and the US." That is something I always wonder about models who travel from other countries.

There are no red flags in your profile text. For me, your red flags arise from your pattern of forum behavior which I have observed over a number of years. However that would be taking this thread off topic, so I will not go into any further detail here.

Jan 10 13 06:25 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Melodye Joy wrote:
By all means...always looking to improve and add/subtract anything that may be unattractive to readers/potenial clients

I am a little confused by the logic of your tiered rates. I can understand why you would charge more for commercial work than for portfolio building, but what is the difference between editorial and artistic? Unless you are talking about artistic nudes (which I don't think you are), I don't see why artistic shoots would be so much more expensive than editorial shoots. Some clarification on what those terms mean to you would be helpful.

Apart from that, your profile is vastly improved from when I first saw it some months ago. It used to be full of red flags, but now I cannot find any at all. If this change reflects a genuine growth in your understanding of the business and the needs of photographers, then I applaud you. Well done!

Jan 10 13 06:31 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Charlotte  White wrote:
Hi! I'm new to MM, do you think my profile has any red flags?

No red flags here, you sound both professional and experienced. Actually your entire profile is quite impressive for someone who has only been here three days. If I hadn't checked the dates I would have assumed you were an MM veteran. smile

Jan 10 13 06:48 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Leone P wrote:
Hello,

I would be interested to know your thoughts. smile

You describe your look as "alternative" -- that is good, it shows you have a realistic understanding of where you fit in the modeling world, given your large number of body modifications. You say you have an ambition to become a Suicide Girl; a lot of people on MM would strongly advise against that for legal/contractual reasons. It might be worth your time to look up some past forum threads on the subject.

No red flags, you sound like you'd be fun to work with. smile

Jan 10 13 06:57 pm Link

Model

Charlotte White

Posts: 8

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

No red flags here, you sound both professional and experienced. Actually your entire profile is quite impressive for someone who has only been here three days. If I hadn't checked the dates I would have assumed you were an MM veteran. smile

Oh, wow, thanks! Made my morning!

Jan 10 13 07:03 pm Link

Model

SvetlanaK

Posts: 63

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

would love to get feedback!

Jan 10 13 07:05 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Emily Smiles wrote:
me please?

No red flags for me. Everything about your profile comes across as very professional.

Here is the one bit that might be slightly problematic:

"If I do not have a time and location set within 48 hours of the day of the shoot I will not hold my schedule open. If I get another offer for the day with all the details in place, I will take it. So please provide time, location, and any other info quickly to ensure your shoot happens."

Now I personally do not have any problem with this policy, or the way it is worded. I think it is perfectly reasonable. However I would not be surprised if there were certain photographers on MM who would accuse you of "flaking" if you enforced that policy on them. My advice to you is, do not rely on photographers reading that in your profile. If the shoot date is approaching and you still do not have a confirmed time and location, send them a PM and paste that paragraph right into the message, so there can be no misunderstandings.

Jan 10 13 07:21 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

Caustic Disco wrote:
me please. i never know if i give too much info or not enough, thanks! smile

You do have a lot of information in your profile. It is on the brink of being too long but it is still okay.

Um, this:

"lastly, i do not use MM as a way to get dates, i have never required assistance in getting those, if you'd like to hook up with someone online try match.com!"

C'mon, you've been on MM long enough to know that is unnecessarily snarky. Yeah, we all joke about how MM is not a dating service, but the people who send you inappropriate messages probably won't even read it anyway, so why not just lose it? It is the only spot of negativity on an otherwise upbeat profile.

Before this starts sounding too critical, let me say that I have always liked you, and I get the impression that you would be a blast to work with. If you ever find yourself in the NY/NJ area, please get in touch because I'll definitely want to make you a paid shoot offer. smile

Jan 10 13 07:40 pm Link

Model

Demetra D

Posts: 1133

New York, New York, US

Let me know please. I would love to improve my profile.

Jan 10 13 07:47 pm Link

Photographer

Heels and Hemlines

Posts: 2961

Southern Pines, North Carolina, US

all_names_are_taken wrote:
Please?

I don't know, your profile kind of makes me laugh. You sound so blah about everything, like you're not really sure if you want to be a model or not:

You're going to "start making a serious effort" to shoot twice a week -- but maybe you won't.
You don't know your dress size.
You don't care which side of the camera you're on.
You may or may not be making a modeling trip over the summer, to cities that may or may not be on the vague itinerary, with another model who is yet to be determined.
You may or may not be going to law school, which may or may not affect your shooting schedule.
You couldn't even be bothered to figure out a model name for yourself (all_names_are_taken).

LOL. I guess it's okay for TF, but I am not going to spend money on a model who sounds like she doesn't even want to be there.

Jan 10 13 08:02 pm Link

Model

Julia Steel

Posts: 2474

Sylvania, Ohio, US

GoldRoseMedia wrote:

You do have a lot of information in your profile. It is on the brink of being too long but it is still okay.

Um, this:

"lastly, i do not use MM as a way to get dates, i have never required assistance in getting those, if you'd like to hook up with someone online try match.com!"

C'mon, you've been on MM long enough to know that is unnecessarily snarky. Yeah, we all joke about how MM is not a dating service, but the people who send you inappropriate messages probably won't even read it anyway, so why not just lose it? It is the only spot of negativity on an otherwise upbeat profile.

Before this starts sounding too critical, let me say that I have always liked you, and I get the impression that you would be a blast to work with. If you ever find yourself in the NY/NJ area, please get in touch because I'll definitely want to make you a paid shoot offer. smile

thank you! i haven't gotten date offers since i posted that, i think it's high time to lose it, thanks so much!

Jan 10 13 08:37 pm Link