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I have pepperspray in my purse, but I bring it everywhere I go. So if I bring my purse, its with me. I've never felt a need to use it or take it out during a photoshoot. Feb 13 13 04:31 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: +1 Feb 13 13 04:31 pm Link One of my buddies IS a former San Jose cop. When he was off duty, I invited him over to my apartment to loan him my lighting. He parked in a spot where a tenet's spot was. The guy came out and yelled at him ... instead of pulling out his badge and saying "I'm a cop! What are you going to do about it?" He said "Clam down! If you are that pissed off, go ahead and call the cops." He then turned and smiled at me. Feb 13 13 04:36 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: I could see a prank being set up in this situation. (lol) Feb 13 13 04:37 pm Link "Model Protection" = "How to fear monger!" If someone is so afraid of photographers OR llamas that they feel the need to arm themselves, then perhaps they should stay home? Meeting new people is risky. You might get your feelings hurt, your heart broken or worse. I choose to take a chance on people, and for the most part, I've not been let down by but a few. Feb 13 13 04:41 pm Link Sorry, i'm immune to pepper spray and idiots. Feb 13 13 04:43 pm Link PhotographybyT wrote: Apparently the Monterey PD has no issue with an attractive officer being photographed in a swim suit. Telling my buddy wasn't something she felt was important before the shoot! Yes, it could have been a prank ... fortunately they weren't that mean! Feb 13 13 04:45 pm Link SianLamere wrote: +1 Feb 13 13 04:48 pm Link Some years back there was a rash of news stories about babies either being abused or ignored by their sitters. Some recommended hidden cameras to catch those 'babysitters'. After a few months of sensationalized home videos of bad sitters hit the airwaves a security specialist spoke up. Simply he said, "if you think you need to set up a camera, you hired the wrong person". Check references carefully, leave the .38 Special at home. Feb 13 13 05:00 pm Link Creating the best photographs is all about trust and cooperation. I would think that if you have enough doubts about the photographer that you feel you need a weapon, then there's probably no chance of decent images. Feb 13 13 05:12 pm Link Dani Nikole Feist wrote: Now that sounds like good advice. Especially letting others know who and where you are shooting. Feb 13 13 05:24 pm Link Azimuth Arts wrote: I just rip a tree out of the ground and beat my tog with it if they act up. Back yonder in my day, togs were seen and not heard! Feb 13 13 05:28 pm Link hs photography wrote: They are not switchblades now they are spring assisted. Feb 13 13 05:36 pm Link Marc Damon wrote: Hi capacity magazines are going to be against the law. Feb 13 13 05:48 pm Link Image Studios wrote: Aina Nudes said switchblade, not me and I do believe switchblades are illegal. Feb 13 13 06:01 pm Link Leone P wrote: natural beauties of qld wrote: +1 Feb 13 13 06:04 pm Link Anna Von Leigh wrote: so where exactly are you planning to hide this... Feb 13 13 06:24 pm Link Big A-Larger Than Life wrote: Hmmm ... "bazookas?" Sound like an interesting shoot idea! Feb 13 13 08:10 pm Link I haven't read the whole thread but since I still even at my advanced age occasionally pick a modeling gig, I'm going to chip in: I sincerely hope that on any shoot on which I'm working in any capacity, the photographer would immediately fire anyone bringing any sort of weapon or other device on the set "for his/her protection" because I would walk off the set if he did not. My opinion is that if I or anyone else, is too lazy or too foolish to perform the simple checks that almost all of us rely on, due diligence, reference checking, etc. to protect ourselves, then that person almost certainly will also be too foolish or too lazy to learn to use the device properly. Just as I would not remain in the vicinity of a rattlesnake or a skunk, I won't willingly remain in the vicinity of such a person. It's not that the animal is bad or vicious, it's that its own fear renders the poor thing dangerous. I've been using this philosophy for well over a half century and I haven't been bit, sprayed or shot yet. Seems to work pretty well. Feb 13 13 08:13 pm Link Anna Von Leigh wrote: So the headlines will read "model shoots photographer with MP-5 during nude photo session" Feb 13 13 08:19 pm Link these threads kill me. LOL. allow me a bit of leeway to be crude here, but does the word "model" put thoughts into a girl's head that she's automatically way hotter and more desirable than the ass that any given photographer is already tapping? get over yourself. as i've told several fear-mongering local models already, you have my name, my number, my home address. google my web footprint and decide for yourself. i know JACK SHIT about you. i'm the one that should be concerned. Feb 13 13 08:25 pm Link I think there's a huge gender divide here. Models, in general, are female. Photographers,in general, are male. Women, in general, have reason to be more concerned with their personal safety than men. Men, in general, are good guys, but women, in general, can't afford to treat men in general as if they are. If you can follow my tortured syntax. My advice, if you are that concerned, is to always meet in a public place, preferably one where the staff know you. Have your butchest friend on standby. Call him or her with an address before you go anywhere with anyone. Set a time to check in by, and have them call the police/show up threateningly if you do not check in. Do not go anywhere with anyone if they give you a hinky feeling. If something seems off, excuse yourself as soon as possible. But give men a chance. Most are decent people. Feb 13 13 10:01 pm Link Randall_Oelerich wrote: Not always true. Feb 13 13 10:30 pm Link c_h_r_i_s wrote: Yup. Made me think of the new show on the Bio channel. Feb 13 13 10:37 pm Link Models are not the only ones to be concerned about safety. Photographers also carry a lot of valueable equipment. The best bet is to check references and also google the name if possible. Feb 13 13 10:40 pm Link Turn up to my studio with a gun or pepper-spray in your bag and I'm calling the police as both are prohibited here. If you genuinely feel the need to carry a weapon to a shoot (and by this I mean for your safety in the studio, not merely travelling to and from the shoot) then you're in the wrong business or you need to move to a safer country - or both. Feb 14 13 12:29 am Link I'm a firm believer that women, models or not, should always be carrying pepper spray - and a concealed gun, if they're stable and trained to use it correctly. Self-defense classes are also a good idea. This is not in regards to modelling or photoshoots, just life in general. While not -everyone- is bad and scary, the world is a pretty bad place at times. I am an advocate of self-protection and not being a victim or statistic. Feb 14 13 04:31 am Link vagina w teeth is good Feb 14 13 04:42 am Link KonstantKarma wrote: Works for me, but it's settin a pretty high bar for some of these folks. Feb 14 13 04:43 am Link Why are you doing a nude shoot, in the woods, with a total stranger, as a TFP? Even if it's a clothed studio shoot, how will you get your weapon, when there's a problem? Will you put an AK47 down your bra or something similar? On a PVC shoot, how would you conceal your weapon? I think you have a number of options, if you feel the need to bring a weapon on a shoot; 1) give up modeling, 2) don't shoot with strangers, 3) dont' do nude shoots, 4) don't shoot in the woods or 5) learn self defence. Bringing an escort would also help but a lot of photographers will not shoot with you then. Exactly how dangerous is living in the USA? Do guns solve every problem or do they make them worse? Feb 14 13 04:48 am Link Decay of Memory wrote: true..true. Feb 14 13 05:49 am Link D-Light wrote: Reported assault statistics are very high. And obviously, there is underreporting as well. Feb 14 13 05:52 am Link toesup wrote: EXACTLY! Feb 14 13 06:20 am Link Getting an untraceable weapon always a hassle for would-be-murderers. However if the victim brings her own weapon that isn't traceable to the murderer and she probably doesn't know how or is unwilling to use (takes some guts to shoot someone) voila now there is a weapon that cannot be traced to the murderer. We have gwc, now we have gwg (girl with gun). Seems like great match... Feb 14 13 06:25 am Link KonstantKarma wrote: Your world maybe - ours is fine by comparison. Feb 14 13 08:51 am Link i had my car robbed once in san francisco and had a BBQ grill stolen off my back patio and the side window smashed in an old, barely running Subaru but otherwise i've never had any trouble. i've wandered around new york and chicago and have even been in east st. louis and survived. but maybe it's different for PYTs. KonstantKarma wrote: Feb 14 13 09:02 am Link RKD Photographic wrote: our world is just FINE. hundreds of thousands of women will go to a bar every night and go home drunk with some guy they just met, but taking pictures is the SCARIEST THING IN THE WORLD. Feb 14 13 09:15 am Link c_h_r_i_s wrote: Us old timers on here well remember her. Feb 14 13 09:22 am Link In a recent study, 84 percent of the women who are raped knew their assailant. Be safe. Only model for complete strangers. Feb 14 13 10:07 am Link bw fotograf wrote: Ohhhh THAT world... Yeah that one's just fine... Feb 14 13 10:36 am Link |