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What won't Light room do
That Photoshop is required for. Can Lightroom do basic retouch of models faces and skin. May 19 13 07:23 pm Link I guess it depends upon the purpose of your photos. For me, LR can't do micro d&b for instance and also a lot of the more tedious healing and cloning. The little bit of healing LR can do, is fairly clumsy in comparison, more suited for taking a piece of sensor dust out. May 19 13 07:30 pm Link Lorin Edmonds wrote: Layers and High Pass. I can go on but that enough for me. Oh, and Black borders on the final image. May 19 13 07:32 pm Link In addition, LR won't let you create layers. What you do in LR is non-destructive, to the extent that if you're working in RAW you can reset the image and start over. But since there are no layers, you can't delete or modify a layer or layer mask. May 19 13 07:33 pm Link Layers is the number one differences for me. It can do basic retouch using spot removal and brushes for burn & dodge effect. May 19 13 07:34 pm Link CMYK May 19 13 07:36 pm Link Layer masks. Channel masks. May 19 13 07:59 pm Link Liquefy! Sometimes a Photoshoot boob job can be a wonderful thing. May 19 13 08:14 pm Link Lorin Edmonds wrote: yes. all of my work is done in lightroom. May 19 13 08:16 pm Link As you're probably noticing, most of the things Lightroom lacks are the 'final editing' type things. It's also debatable whether or not Photoshop has better printer drivers, but since a lot of people that are really serious about printing use third-party drivers, that may not matter much. Personally, I use Lightroom for just about everything. Once I've narrowed a shoot down to a couple of images, that's where Photoshop comes in. As others have said, Lightroom does most all of the editing that Photoshop does, but in a much more cumbersome manner. If I could only own one of them, it would unquestionably be Lightroom. Making my life easier is a lot more important to me than how much I can do to individual photos. May 19 13 08:19 pm Link Beyond Boudoir wrote: True... but I can accomplish the same thing on Photobrush (Liquid Warp/free download at www.mediachance.com for 30 days/less than $50 to buy) and I don't have to spend $500 on Photoshop and now make monthly payments to do it... May 19 13 08:39 pm Link LR is nothing more than an alternate interface for the Adobe RAW converter (and not a good alternative IMHO). It doesn't even BEGIN to do a fraction of what can be done in PS...beginning with, most importantly, LAYERS. May 19 13 08:54 pm Link Select Models wrote: Photoshop is $500 OR a monthly payment. Or if you find somebody with a student ID really fast, you can get it for something like $180, depending on what discount that school qualifies for. May 19 13 08:55 pm Link Zack Zoll wrote: What your recommending here is falsifying one's identification to secure a discount on software (piracy pure and simple). That's ILLEGAL and it's an act that can get banned from this site... May 19 13 09:04 pm Link Select Models wrote: not only that but its not even accurate. I actually qualify so I checked. Student/education price is $360 get it while it lasts. May 19 13 09:06 pm Link Select Models wrote: Noted. I will no longer mention it. Although, I do know a number of people that signed up for a single Photo or Business course at a community college just so they could get their ID card and get a discount. But since we're all-Cloud soon, the OP probably won't have time to do that. AVD AlphaDuctions wrote: It depends on what discount tier your school qualifies for. I got the entire Master Collection for around $540, so I must have qualified for a better discount. I also used a faculty ID (yes, my own May 20 13 05:32 am Link i switched to aperture because it has a decent retouch/clone brush along with a skin smoothing brush. i can get a lot done in aperture but sometimes you need photoshop (liquify for one thing). May 20 13 07:12 am Link AVD AlphaDuctions wrote: Zack Zoll wrote: I got it through my institution for $200. And it was Design Standard suite, so it included PS, Illustrator, and Acrobat Pro. May 20 13 11:47 am Link I use LR4 for RAW conversions, simple spot removal and basic local adjustments - often that's enough. If I need to do extensive skin or hair work, liquify or detailed D&B then I export the file into PSE9 (which I only really bought for the context aware healing brush) and do it there. Final adjustments of contrast, sharpening, addition of grain, exporting to JPEG etc. are all performed in LR, either on the RAW file or the PSD if I created one. Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com May 20 13 12:05 pm Link Any heavy pixel editing really. Liquify, content aware fill, cloning etc. and of course frequency separation techniques. It is good for raw conversions and most 'normal' photography but for any heavy editing it isn't the right tool. May 20 13 01:24 pm Link Lorin Edmonds wrote: On top of layers and for me, better retouching tools, content aware fills is BIG. Even LR 5 will not be content aware. May 20 13 01:47 pm Link i think some people are underestimating the power of working on raw data before exporting to photoshop. May 20 13 03:08 pm Link  Lightroom is kind of car wash. It'll clean and shine many cars quickly and efficiently. Photoshop is like a car detailer. He has the tools and equipment to clean each individual wheel spoke, the stain in the upholstery, and even get rid of chips and scratches in the paint.  With that said, most car detailers put the vehicle in the car wash before bringing it to their own stall to begin the detailing work. The two work very well together. May 20 13 03:32 pm Link On CS6 student -- can I buy it now and activate it next time I enroll? My most recent ID is from undergrad... May 20 13 03:44 pm Link SayCheeZ! wrote: Really a pretty decent analogy...HOWEVER...LR does not do anything that you can't do in PhotoShop ACR - and IMHO - anything you can do in LR can be done EASIER, QUICKER and MORE ACCURATELY in PhotoShop ACR. May 20 13 04:03 pm Link all_names_are_taken wrote: Nope. You need a email a scan of your ID or recent transcripts to the seller to get the educational copy. Once you have the copy, they don't check your ID again. Some institutions date their ID cards, and some don't ... so you may or may not be able to use your undergrad ID. If it was from the last few years, I'd give it a try. What's the worst that could happen? You're no worse off than if you hadn't tried. Gary Melton wrote: I very much disagree. It all comes down to how your brain is wired, and how you work. I've been editing RAW files since came out CS2, and I didn't get Lightroom until right before LR3 dropped. It took me about a month until I was working faster with LR than with ACR. I still use both (we don't use LR where I teach, so I need to be familiar with both), and I still find LR to be much faster for my working style. May 20 13 04:38 pm Link Lightroom is a tool for photographers to edit their work, all the tasks we did in the darkroom. Photoshop is a tool for professional retocuhing, traditionally not something the photographer did (nor do many pros do today). May 20 13 04:46 pm Link |
), and that probably helped too. I don't remember exactly what Photoshop itself was going for; I guessed based on the cost of the whole package.
