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Photographer

SPV Photo

Posts: 808

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Aug 15 13 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

blue rabbits wrote:
This is something completely ridiculous that's been bugging me .

Is it acceptable to hug someone goodbye after a shoot ?

have to say i had never really thought
about it before and i tend to hug everyone

but i am starting to think ,some people may find it inappropriate

I have to say so far no-one has ever said don't hug me
neither appeared to be offended by it but ..

complete invasion of personal space ?

If things have gone well, I love a hug, and I tend to think things are less awkward if the model / female initiates.  So, I leave it to them, unless we have worked together before and I know she's comfortable with it.

Aug 15 13 09:20 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

Brianne Leary wrote:
I don't see a problem with it. I like to be warned ahead of time, though, especially if it's our first time working together. No biggie though.

You want to be "warned" about a hug?

Aug 15 13 09:27 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

NicoleNudes wrote:
I usually say, "Do you hug or handshake?"

Kinda sterile. Not genuinely friendly. I'd respond to that with, neither, I send an invoice.

smile

Aug 15 13 09:32 pm Link

Photographer

Grit City Pinups

Posts: 270

Seattle, Washington, US

One time I was doing some nude pinups with a model, and when I said "Okay, I think we're done", she ran over and gave me a big hug while she was still naked. It took me by surprise, and I think acted a little freaked out. Next time I'll be ready for it.

Other models have hugged me (with their clothes still on), but usually after we've worked together a couple of times. I don't initiate it, but I certainly like it. As somebody said, it indicates that they're comfortable with me.

Aug 15 13 09:37 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

In my experience, women can hug without warning if they want to.

Men, that is running a greater risk of offending someone or invading their personal space.

Personally, I am pro-hugging, so long as the person has bathed/showered recently, and even better if it isn't a dude.

Blue Rabbits, you could hug me any day smile

Aug 15 13 09:45 pm Link

Photographer

Vintagevista

Posts: 11804

Sun City, California, US

I'm in the "Pro-hug" camp - smile

Aug 15 13 09:56 pm Link

Photographer

RTE Photography

Posts: 1511

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US

When the feeling is right, go for it. I have had after shoot hugs from several models and it was always the ones who were the most connected and had the most fun on the shoot. I like it because it shows the me that the model appreciates the work that I have done, and will be doing, on her pictures. No nude hugs (yet).

Aug 15 13 10:05 pm Link

Photographer

Modelphilia

Posts: 1003

Hilo, Hawaii, US

Aingeal Rose wrote:
it is a matter of gauging the situation

+1, and it's *always* that!

I do see it as a cultural thing generally. In New England and Great Britain, for instance, I'd wager there's a lot less of it than in California. More hugs and/or "a peck on the cheek" in southern Europe than in the north, etc.

Out here in Hawaii, people giving a hug upon meeting and departing, even between men, is seen by many as a very common part of sharing their "aloha". It's usually just a quick embrace and maybe also a little kiss on the cheek of females. Yet even here, I still size up each situation individually. Probably 90% of the time though there is at least the quick hug, both on arrival and at departure.

After working hard with a model for a couple of hours, where we both have expended a lot of energy in trying to co-create something wonderful, there's just a relaxing sense of relief when the work is done.

At that point I may indeed initiate a hug, or as they are walking out the door, but it's almost always just a quick hug-and-release sort of thing, and always after my having judged that it was going to be received well.

To me it's just nice to share some positive feelings with the model. As they say, share your love!

Aug 15 13 10:42 pm Link

Photographer

Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

I don't mind hugs, but I let the model make the first move. I normally offer a handshake, but some do like to hug, especially after a successful shoot.

Aug 15 13 11:54 pm Link

Model

K I C K H A M

Posts: 14689

Los Angeles, California, US

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
I don't mind hugs, but I let the model make the first move. I normally offer a handshake, but some do like to hug, especially after a successful shoot.

Yay hugs! big_smile

Aug 16 13 12:03 am Link

Photographer

Norman Gould

Posts: 3462

North Bend, Oregon, US

I go with the flow...
One can generally tell what the persons space dynamics are after a couple of hours of sharing time making art.

Aug 16 13 12:04 am Link

Photographer

Skyclad Imaging

Posts: 8

Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

There are not enough hugs offered in this world, but when they are offered I welcome them.  Just love a hug.  Guess it depends on one's background.  Displays of affection and/or appreciation were always the norm in my family, and still are.  Even my thirty-five year old son still gives his father a hug and kiss on the cheek hello and good-bye.

With models, I just seem to know at the end of a shoot if a hug is welcomed and appreciated.  Sometimes there is absolutely no doubt - sometimes it is not welcome.  Body language I suppose.  If in doubt, leave it out.

Aug 16 13 12:23 am Link

Model

chasingKelly

Posts: 95

Stanton, California, US

I usually say hello with a handshake and end with a hug.. unless he offers the awkward handshake... rejected!

Aug 16 13 12:52 am Link

Model

Love_mya

Posts: 288

Rockbank, Victoria, Australia

In general, im not a hugging person, so i dont hug everyone, only my closes friends or relationships.  So when it comes to photographers or industry people i rather just shake their hands. If they go to hug me, i just say, sorry i dont hug lol... No one gets offended by it.
I rarely hug my family, just the way i was brought up.

Aug 16 13 09:28 am Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Personally, I don't offer hugs (I was brought up in a family where a public display of affection was just not done), but I don't turn them away if they're offered.

Aug 16 13 10:02 am Link

Model

Goodbye4

Posts: 2532

Los Angeles, California, US

I usually hug everyone at the end of a shoot (and find that most others initiate the same thing). But I suss it out based on body language. If someone seems super formal, I might just offer a hand shake instead.

Aug 16 13 10:31 am Link

Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2935

Socorro, New Mexico, US

I've had models try to hug me at the end.  But I've found that backing up quickly when someone approaches is good deterrent; most people figure it out.  Some, instead, try again by sneaking up behind you.  That's a little creepy.

Aug 16 13 10:43 am Link

Photographer

Viator Defessus Photos

Posts: 1259

Houston, Texas, US

I'm a "huggy" person with my friends. It's just how we are. I still didn't hug models at first. The first time a model hugged me I was completely shocked; it just seemingly came out of nowhere. That model is a friend these days though. There's another model I've shot with 9 (hopefully soon 10) times in the last several months though, who I've also studied with at the coffee shop and we hug good-bye pretty regularly because of the friendship and the comfort level that has developed over that time. The first time I shot with her though I just offered a handshake. So... I definitely don't mind a hug, but it's usually the model that does it first and it's almost always a sign that she enjoyed the shoot and feels comfortable with me.

Aug 16 13 11:48 am Link

Photographer

FEN RIR Photo

Posts: 725

Westminster, Colorado, US

blue rabbits wrote:
This is something completely ridiculous that's been bugging me .

Is it acceptable to hug someone goodbye after a shoot ?

have to say i had never really thought
about it before and i tend to hug everyone

but i am starting to think ,some people may find it inappropriate

I have to say so far no-one has ever said don't hug me
neither appeared to be offended by it but ..

complete invasion of personal space ?

I happened to me once, and I liked it!  I'm a pretty large bearded man, and I try really hard not intimidate, creep out, or scare off models.  At the end of one of my shoots the model jumped up and gave me a big hug.  It was nice to know that at least one them I don't have to wonder about, lol!

Aug 16 13 11:55 am Link

Photographer

michael___

Posts: 303

New York, New York, US

chasingKelly wrote:
I usually say hello with a handshake and end with a hug.. unless he offers the awkward handshake... rejected!

Huh? If someone offers you a handshake at the end, you reject it?

Aug 16 13 12:21 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

I am a hugger, but when with a stranger I tend to leave it up to that person.

Or this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZvarRe-XVQ

wink

Aug 16 13 12:28 pm Link

Photographer

790763

Posts: 2747

San Francisco, California, US

In my Burmese (basically Chinese) culture, it is consider "improper" to hug a stranger. In the western society, you normally learn to take social cues from people.

Suppose the OP and I met in a social setting for a photoshoot. I would *always* extend my hand to shake. The OP will understand from my cue that "I don't like to be hugged."

Let's turn around and restart the scene. Withing 2-arms-length, the OP extended both her arms out to gesture for a hug. Even thought I don't like hugging, I am not going to be rude and extend my hand for a shake, I'll more than likely extend my arms to reciprocate her hug.

Basically, at the end of the session, if you feel like you need to show appreciation towards the photographer for executing a great shoot, ask. Say something like, "I had a wonderful session. Thank you for your time. Is it OK if I hug you?"

More than likely, the photographer will accept and say, "Yes, Thank you."

Unless he's being a douche or socially awkward, he'll say, "No" to the hug.

Aug 16 13 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

4 R D

Posts: 1141

Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico

I always offer a handshake but I am fine if the model wants to hug me. Hugs are free and make you feel good.

Aug 16 13 01:03 pm Link

Photographer

Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

K I C K H A M wrote:

Yay hugs! big_smile

Yay! Hugs from Kelli! big_smile

Aug 16 13 04:09 pm Link

Model

SHAYNA ALEXIS

Posts: 11

Los Angeles, California, US

Always ask before hugging! You never want to disrespect anyone or make them feel uncomfortable. Always respect boundaries however, if the hugging is an organic response after the shoot, just go with it!

Aug 16 13 04:16 pm Link

Photographer

Art Silva

Posts: 10064

Santa Barbara, California, US

A hug a day is healthy studies have showed... Go ahead, try it. You'll see how better your day becomes after a hug.

Aug 16 13 04:16 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

blue rabbits wrote:
Yea i thought about this ^ but it seems a bit awkward being all
like "Hey can i hug you" this sounds totally weird im not hugging
people , because i want hugs ! ..It's just a thing i am sort of on auto
pilot  ,now of a way of saying thanks /goodbye .

I will bear it in mind some people are weirded out by hugs tongue

Sometimes I preface it with a non-known person's status... as I am going in with the handshake that, 'I'm a hugger" and if they seem comfy that I move the hand and proceed with the hug.

However, I am also an arm and arm person when walking closely and know I've surprised a person or two as I slip my arm into theirs and hold on as we walk. It not randomly though, its after we've known each other long enough for me to feel a genuine like, appreciation and care for them. I don't do that with everyone.

Jen

Lovely Day Media wrote:
Just be careful. Don't give anyone the idea that you are playing with their emotions.

I completely agree with this

Farenell Photography wrote:
I grew up in a big-time Italian household. We gave or got hugged (along with a kiss) by just about eveyone, even its in public & you're only seeing them for 10 minutes.

I come from a very touchy and face kiss friendly (and lip) family. I usually only kiss known friends and family on the lips, a smooch, not anything creepy...otherwise its cheeks.

Camerosity wrote:
Some models hug me after a shoot. Some shake hands. Some do neither. One kissed me on the cheek. One took me to dinner.

None of those is inappropriate, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know whether those who hug are more appreciative or are just huggers. Either way, I don't consider it inappropriate or an invasion of personal space.

Phew. wink

Ronald Nyein Zaw Tan wrote:
In my Burmese (basically Chinese) culture, it is consider "improper" to hug a stranger. In the western society, you normally learn to take social cues from people.

Suppose the OP and I met in a social setting for a photoshoot. I would *always* extend my hand to shake. The OP will understand from my cue that "I don't like to be hugged."

Your clear and welcomed straight arm for handshake removes any doubt of your comfort and is readily understood and respected.

Aug 16 13 04:37 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13408

Nashville, Tennessee, US

blue rabbits wrote:
This is something completely ridiculous that's been bugging me .

Is it acceptable to hug someone goodbye after a shoot ?

have to say i had never really thought
about it before and i tend to hug everyone

but i am starting to think ,some people may find it inappropriate

I have to say so far no-one has ever said don't hug me
neither appeared to be offended by it but ..

complete invasion of personal space ?

There's nothing wrong with that! Life's too short for politically correct bullshit. I always appreciate a hug.

Aug 16 13 04:45 pm Link

Model

chasingKelly

Posts: 95

Stanton, California, US

Michael Sergio Barnes wrote:

Huh? If someone offers you a handshake at the end, you reject it?

No no, I mean, I feel rejected 'cause I originally was going to give a hug.

Aug 16 13 11:39 pm Link

Model

Big A-Larger Than Life

Posts: 33451

The Woodlands, Texas, US

FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
First, be yourself...if you want to hug someone...do it. If they don't like hugging or don't want to be hugged, they can tell you. The one word of caution, if you're in a situation where it's a husband and wife, hug the wife first.

By the way...PLEASE come shoot in Texas! We'd love to work with you...and yes, we hug here too! smile

No we don't.  We punch in the baws.   cool

Aug 16 13 11:45 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Big A-Larger Than Life wrote:
No we don't.  We punch in the baws.   cool

I'd hug you, but my face would land in your bewbs...

wait...

*begins hatching plan*

Aug 16 13 11:52 pm Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
I don't mind hugs, but I let the model make the first move. I normally offer a handshake, but some do like to hug, especially after a successful shoot.

This

Aug 16 13 11:57 pm Link

Photographer

Mosby Gray Photography

Posts: 5

Fairfax, Virginia, US

There are a couple of people that I have hugged but it's because we get along very well as friends. Most I just hand shake at the end of a shoot.

Aug 17 13 01:09 am Link

Photographer

Photographe

Posts: 2351

Bristol, England, United Kingdom

Like a lot of guys, I'll turn to shake hands and get bowled over by a hug.

It's a transient business, people meet often for one day only, so sometimes people's emotions or excitement is high. I never bat an eyelid or make someone feel uncomfortable... after all, that's my job right?

Hugs are often preceded by the "you're my favourite photographer, I've never felt this comfortable with a tog before" speech. I know then to take a deep breath, because the hug will be a rib-breaker...

Aug 17 13 01:30 am Link

Photographer

HO Photo

Posts: 575

Los Angeles, California, US

I'll admit I'm a hugger. Shake hands at first meeting. Hugs forever after. Life is short! Hug people.

Aug 17 13 02:54 am Link

Photographer

Photographe

Posts: 2351

Bristol, England, United Kingdom

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Aug 17 13 03:04 am Link

Photographer

Verco Handel

Posts: 293

Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China

I am not a big fan of hugging. I am a loner. I am a solitary person. I want space. To socialize is not something I look forward to.

For me, hugging is okay with close family members, close friends. But i don't make first move. If they are signaling intention to hug then I step forward.

For others, I set my body language to avoid hug. Handshake would be sufficient.

a cheek kissing? no way... hell no. smile

So for huggers out there, when you greet people like me out there, you should be able to read our gestures. smile

In a group meeting, when others start hugging, I feel really awkward. I don't want to reject huggers, but I am really uncomfortable.

Aug 17 13 04:25 am Link

Photographer

nudeXposed

Posts: 1154

Shanghai, Shanghai, China

hugs are totally natural in Oz or the UK. female models are usually outgoing & friendly so I've never had an issue. we're all friends on a shoot & it's a nice way to begin & end a shoot. hugs are spontaneous, never forced. don't overthink it.

Sep 01 13 09:13 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

-N-o-t-h-i-n-g- wrote:
This is something completely ridiculous that's been bugging me .

Is it acceptable to hug someone goodbye after a shoot ?

have to say i had never really thought
about it before and i tend to hug everyone

but i am starting to think ,some people may find it inappropriate

I have to say so far no-one has ever said don't hug me
neither appeared to be offended by it but ..

complete invasion of personal space ?

I've had models hug me, even when nude.  smile
I have no problem with hugging.

Sep 01 13 04:07 pm Link