Forums > Model Colloquy > Whats the nicest way to say "suck in that tummy"?

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Natural Means

Posts: 936

Yamba, New South Wales, Australia

Without that hurt look thing that girls do.

Sep 09 13 09:10 pm Link

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Chuckarelei

Posts: 11271

Seattle, Washington, US

"Tuck in the tummy"
?

Sep 09 13 09:13 pm Link

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fsp

Posts: 3656

New York, New York, US

PULL IN YOUR GUT FOR GOD SAAKES!
hahahahahahahaahhahahahahahaa sheesh.. make a big deal of it

just say "tummy?" they know what to do.

Sep 09 13 09:16 pm Link

Model

D A N I

Posts: 4627

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

"Suck in that gut"

If she cries then she's not woman enough

Sep 09 13 09:18 pm Link

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Culturally Destitute

Posts: 551

Seattle, Washington, US

I just kind of just spill it out when we're taking our first test shots.
"Okay here we go. Ready? Stomach in boobs out!  Lets go. 
Click, click.
I usually get a laugh.

Sep 09 13 09:18 pm Link

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Wolfy4u

Posts: 1103

Grand Junction, Colorado, US

If a model seems so inexperienced that I worry about her reaction, I simply take the time to explain that certain poses will make the flattest tummy look big and all models have to watch for that. (It's the truth most of the time). If I still think she's not sure, I add that a bit of curve to the tummy is very flattering.

Sep 09 13 09:20 pm Link

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Designit - Edward Olson

Posts: 1708

West Hollywood, California, US

PictureItYakima wrote:
I just kind of just spill it out when we're taking our first test shots.
"Okay here we go. Ready? Stomach in boobs out!  Lets go. 
Click, click.
I usually get a laugh.

This does work well.

It's a matter of the connotation of the terms you use. "Suck in your gut" sounds bad, hence the hurt feelings.

I often ask a model to "lengthen" her torso and demonstrate by sucking in my own gut. I think any model would be grateful for helping her look slimmer as long as you don't use "mean" words.

Sep 09 13 09:48 pm Link

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Mark Key Photography

Posts: 1346

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Designit - Edward Olson wrote:

This does work well.

It's a matter of the connotation of the terms you use. "Suck in your gut" sounds bad, hence the hurt feelings.

I often ask a model to "lengthen" her torso and demonstrate by sucking in my own gut. I think any model would be grateful for helping her look slimmer as long as you don't use "mean" words.

I use this same wording. Telling the model to lengthen her torso gives a much better message and also helps with other posture issues.

Sep 09 13 09:56 pm Link

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Fotografica Gregor

Posts: 4126

Alexandria, Virginia, US

you never ever ever want a model to "suck in a tummy" -

what you want is for the model to lengthen her spine, press the crown of her head toward the sky, push her chest forward and up, and square her shoulders.  This creates a lovely and elegant line. Sucking it in is disastrous to the posture and often the facial expression as well lol....

best way to approach this is to teach it as "posture" - because that is what it is -  if she is a bit more advanced you can talk about activation of core muscles which builds on this....

posture = elegance and always improves a shot unless you're going for the rounded shoulder slumped in look, which I deplore anyway

Sep 09 13 09:58 pm Link

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Camerosity

Posts: 5805

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

"Lift your chest." That has almost the same effect - more, if she decides to pull in her tummy at the same time.

Sep 09 13 10:08 pm Link

Model

GingerMuse

Posts: 369

STUDIO CITY, California, US

Designit - Edward Olson wrote:

This does work well.

It's a matter of the connotation of the terms you use. "Suck in your gut" sounds bad, hence the hurt feelings.

I often ask a model to "lengthen" her torso and demonstrate by sucking in my own gut. I think any model would be grateful for helping her look slimmer as long as you don't use "mean" words.

+1
but honestly if a model is going to get butthurt by you telling her to suck in her stomach; it might not matter how you say it, she still might get upset. A professional knows not to let that stuff bother them and knows that despite having a flat stomach certain angles may not make it look good, but let's face it, we're not always shooting with professionals. I'd do with trying to tell them to lengthen their torso and if they're not getting it, try to nicely explain angles and lighting and ways to make the stomach look more flattering. I've had photographers when I've done fine art nudes shoots tell me to suck it in and it doesn't bother me. It bothers me when they DON'T tell me and then I see I photo and I'm like, "crap, why didn't he tell me to suck in my stomach more!" haha.

Sep 09 13 10:08 pm Link

Model

L e a h

Posts: 16

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Doesn't bother me, would rather know than not know. Sometimes you are focusing on another part of the pose. I also like 'tighten up' that way I think of all body parts but mostly it reminds me of my stomach. I think stomach is nicer word than tummy. Tummy seems like maybe a little chubby, but either way the model should be happy. Like I said, rather not have not knowing ruin an otherwise good picture.

Sep 09 13 10:17 pm Link

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Jay Leavitt

Posts: 6745

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Make it a note to say jokingly early in the session --- "suck it in and stick 'em out"

Keep it lighthearted.

Sep 09 13 10:19 pm Link

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1472

Posts: 1120

Pembroke Pines, Florida, US

I tell everyone suck it in even size 2 models

Sep 09 13 10:20 pm Link

Model

Nicole Nu

Posts: 3981

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Telling them to take a deep breath in could also work - just have to make sure that their expression is still good.

I don't really care if someone tells me to suck it in (as long as they're not rude about it. ex. Suck in your gut) - I normally do anyways so I don't need to be told.

Sep 09 13 10:28 pm Link

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F R A I M

Posts: 4733

Prescott Valley, Arizona, US

Hey fatty, I'm ready when you are, so suck it in already. God...

Sep 09 13 10:34 pm Link

Model

Nym Faea

Posts: 650

San Francisco, California, US

"Engage your core" and you might follow up with something like, "so that we get a really taut stomach and accentuate your curves". This is the sort of thing that can be said to any shape of model, from teeny weeny to bodaciously curvy. It's more about the posture and intent of the pose, rather than, "Yo bitch you fat."

Sep 09 13 10:54 pm Link

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Kitty LaRose

Posts: 12735

Kansas City, Missouri, US

"Think tall" or "flex your abs" etc etc. Trust me, said model will appreciate the heads up for the tummy versus doing the facepalm stuff while looking at the proofs.

Sep 09 13 10:58 pm Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

Kitty Katia wrote:
"Think tall" or "flex your abs" etc etc. Trust me, said model will appreciate the heads up for the tummy versus doing the facepalm stuff while looking at the proofs.

exactly. so awful looking at 200 shots and thinking "omg... why didn't he tell me I needed to suck in my tummy more??"

Sep 10 13 12:29 am Link

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RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

'Stretch it out a bit' usually gets it done. If all else fails, that's what the puppet-warp and liquify tools are for.

Sep 10 13 12:40 am Link

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Personality Imaging

Posts: 2100

Hoover, Alabama, US

I always sing it to the tune of rawhide.

Stick 'em out, suck it in, rawhide....

Works best with cowgirls.

Sep 10 13 12:41 am Link

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V Nixie

Posts: 2072

Los Angeles, California, US

Talk about it in terms of their core. Engage it or harden it. It's a good thing for everyone really.

Sep 10 13 12:51 am Link

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Garry k

Posts: 30129

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I tell them that even the skinniest girls need to

Sep 10 13 12:52 am Link

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Phantasmal Images

Posts: 690

Boston, Massachusetts, US

-JAY- wrote:
"suck it in and stick 'em out"

I often find myself repeating that exact phrase when working with less experienced models.

Sep 10 13 05:33 pm Link

Photographer

925 image

Posts: 284

Martinez, California, US

1472 wrote:
I tell everyone suck it in even size 2 models

+1

Sep 10 13 05:47 pm Link

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Ethereal Pixels

Posts: 693

San Francisco, California, US

I've tried declaring that I'd prefer to avoid the Warp tool at the beginning of my shoots, but it doesn't work. LOL

Seriously... for those models where I know I'll have a problem, I introduce them to the term "TIBO" -- pronounced, "tee bow".  It stands for "Tummy In, Butt Out!"  The rest of the shoot, I merely tell them "TIBO" and they totally get it! smile

Sep 10 13 06:04 pm Link

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Stephen Fletcher

Posts: 7501

Norman, Oklahoma, US

Why should it be harder than asking them to move their shoulder to the right?  Believe me they don't want their tummys looking bigger than you do.

Sep 10 13 06:10 pm Link

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Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

-JAY- wrote:
Make it a note to say jokingly early in the session --- "suck it in and stick 'em out"

Keep it lighthearted.

I've said something like this on occasion.  They don't take offense in fact they lament they can see their tummy in pictures.  I said "well then, in that case just suck in your tummy and bring your chest out."  It actually looks great in pictures.

There's no need to be too shy.  Most models know what they look like and they're not shy about discussing it either.  It boils down to getting a great shot and making them look great.

Sep 10 13 06:16 pm Link

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Grit City Pinups

Posts: 270

Seattle, Washington, US

I usually say tighten your abs and straighten your back. Because that's kind of what I really want them to do - tighten up and flatten their stomach.

On the other hand, if I'm doing pinup, I'll just say, suck in your stomach. I often refer them to photos of Bettie Page, who usually sucked her stomach in almost to her back. :-)

Sep 10 13 06:18 pm Link

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Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

"Try not to look so pregnant!"

Sep 10 13 06:30 pm Link

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Nat has a username

Posts: 3590

Oakland, California, US

"elongate that torso"

"streamline that s-curve"

tongue

Sep 10 13 06:32 pm Link

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The Perfect Image

Posts: 361

Los Angeles, California, US

Most models appreciate knowing what's going to make the pose better. I usually just say "suck it in"  And since most of my models are fuller figured, I like the the thought of "lift your chest" I'll have to try that one smile

Sep 10 13 06:41 pm Link

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anna gabriel

Posts: 120

Lexington, Kentucky, US

PictureItYakima wrote:
I just kind of just spill it out when we're taking our first test shots.
"Okay here we go. Ready? Stomach in boobs out!  Lets go. 
Click, click.
I usually get a laugh.

+1- perfect

or depending on the shoot arching your back
makes the tummy look a lil better
if that fits what your going for.

And if you do say suck in the gut.and she looks sad follow up with its okay your boobs look great

Sep 10 13 06:49 pm Link

Model

Skyler Bleu

Posts: 527

San Jose, California, US

"This is a pose that models do to look more flattering"

then you show an example

Sep 10 13 10:25 pm Link

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Kitty LaRose

Posts: 12735

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Garry k wrote:
I tell them that even the skinniest girls need to

This. I'm a size 00 and still have to make sure I engage my torso in shoots otherwise I can look pudgy--when it's the furthest thing from the truth.

Well, NOW I look a little pudgy, but I'm pregnant so it doesn't count tongue

Sep 10 13 11:29 pm Link

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The Exotic Jewel

Posts: 658

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

The first time say suck in tummy, after that just say tummy and she will know what you mean, hopefully smile.

Sep 10 13 11:51 pm Link

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Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

for beginning models, showing the difference on camera also works wonders. Often they don't know yet how much a difference a little change in posture can mean. So show them a shot where they were a bit slouchy and not sucking it in, and then show them a shot where they elongate their body and let the tummy stick out a bit, and the difference between the 2 shots will be very motivating smile. After that just say "remember the tummy" everyone once in a while, or "tummy!" or "stand up straight!"

Sep 11 13 12:02 am Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

"Sucking it in" or flexing the stomach muscles looks stressed.

Rather, I ask the model to think about the points of their rib cage, ... then the stomach is relaxed and falls flat.

They tend to inhale at the same time they do this, which pops the boobs out ... an added benefit.

Sep 11 13 12:03 am Link

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Natural Means

Posts: 936

Yamba, New South Wales, Australia

anna gabriel wrote:

+1- perfect

or depending on the shoot arching your back
makes the tummy look a lil better
if that fits what your going for.

And if you do say suck in the gut.and she looks sad follow up with its okay your boobs look great

This is the winner :-)

Sep 11 13 01:02 am Link

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Greg K Retouching

Posts: 407

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

-JAY- wrote:
Make it a note to say jokingly early in the session --- "suck it in and stick 'em out"

Keep it lighthearted.

+1

That works every time.

Sep 11 13 01:45 am Link